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driftae86
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Need help with stereo	Mon, 13 September 2004 03:46

hey guys, im trying to fit a cdplayer to my ae86 sprinter and i need help identifying some wires. the plug going into the back of the standard stereo has 7 wires coming out of it. i have identified that the white wire and the black/white striped wire lead to the left hand speaker and the red wire and the black/red striped wire lead to the right hand side speaker. so that leaves 3 wires: - a white wire with a black stripe - a green wire - a blue wire with a black stripe which of these three is the earth? which is the accessories? and which is the power? need help ASAP! cheers [Report message to a moderator]

Azrael
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Re: Need help with stereo	Mon, 13 September 2004 03:58

Standard convention is white with black strip is earth, blue is accessories, so by default green is power, although that is not the usual colour for power. But this can all depend on the brand of stereo, so no guaratees this is correct. [Report message to a moderator]

driftae86
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Re: Need help with stereo	Mon, 13 September 2004 04:01

ok, so can i blame you if i fry my electrics? just kidding can anyone else varify this? any help would be appreciated [Updated on: Mon, 13 September 2004 04:02] [Report message to a moderator]

driftae86
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Re: Need help with stereo	Mon, 13 September 2004 05:04

bump [Report message to a moderator]

Callifo
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Re: Need help with stereo	Mon, 13 September 2004 08:17

Ill grab colours for you in about 10 minutes. [Report message to a moderator]

Callifo
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Re: Need help with stereo	Mon, 13 September 2004 08:42

Well mines a mess, very hard to see but I know that blue with black stripe is ignition. The rest I didnt use/have... There is no constant battery wire if its the stock radio, youll need to put one in. I just earthed the ground to the metal part of the braket but the white with black wire would probably be the ground. You can test it with the interior light globe and the ignition wire. [Updated on: Mon, 13 September 2004 08:43] [Report message to a moderator]

Aust162
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Re: Need help with stereo	Mon, 13 September 2004 08:58

toyota's h/units mount directly onto a bracket, which is earthed already. my celica also had a earth wire thou, which was brown.If u need to find a contant 12v, then either go to your key barrel, brake pedal etc. u really need to get your hands on a test light ($3 from an auto shop)to be certain.better be save than sorry. [Report message to a moderator]

dingaling
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Re: Need help with stereo	Mon, 13 September 2004 17:32

i have abit of paper i printed off the internet, it shows the wiring colors for toyota audio connectors and how to wire upto official ISO standard wiring connectors. Invaluable for hooking up my JVC headunit last week. Shows everything you need. In the 86 Celica Brown was the ground, red was the accesories/ignition. And my supra was also the same. if you get stuck i could take a pic of this paper for u, as i can't find it on the internet anywhere anymore. by the way did your headunit bolt right up to your old brackets? I had major problems using my old brackets, had to modify them and use washers to attach them to my headunit. [Report message to a moderator]

Azrael
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Re: Need help with stereo	Mon, 13 September 2004 23:16

Can I just clarify, is this a Toyota head unit or an aftermarket one?? [Report message to a moderator]

benjust
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Re: Need help with stereo	Tue, 14 September 2004 00:51

generally: solid red - power (ignition on) solid yellow - power (ignition off) solid black - earth the 3 wires you talk of sound like speaker cables.. not power.. though there is no way i can tell you, not having the manual. speaker cables are usually paired up with 1 dashed and one solid of similar colour.. hope this helps.. edit: soz i thought you were talking about the cables coming out of the back of the head unit. just test the cables currently wired with a voltmeter or something. you can at least find the two power cables. you can follow wires to the speaker, and probably one to the chasis. this should indicate what's what. [Updated on: Tue, 14 September 2004 03:42] [Report message to a moderator]

driftae86
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Re: Need help with stereo	Tue, 14 September 2004 07:31

dingaling - the brackets screwed perfectly into place with my clarion head unit. Azrael - i am trying to fit a clarion head unit into my car where there was a standard toyota one previously. i will take a picture of the wires so you guys can see what im talking about. [Report message to a moderator]

Callifo
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Re: Need help with stereo	Tue, 14 September 2004 08:18

I dont see whats so hard though, its pretty straight forward. Using a 12v light globe one wire should always work (battery), one only when ignition is on, and the last shouldnt do anything. The last wire + light globe + either of the other wires will = on. Hence its ground. Speaker wires are almost always really obvious because they are colour paired (one plain one striped). And old cars dont have antenna wires so no problems there. [Report message to a moderator]

Flogbag
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Re: Need help with stereo	Tue, 14 September 2004 09:24

just in luck i just put a cd player in today Green wire - dimmer (power when lights on) blue wire - accesories white with black stripe - constant power hooked earth to one of those screw holes in the metal bracket where the cd player goes in dont know about speakers tho [Report message to a moderator]

driftae86
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Re: Need help with stereo	Tue, 14 September 2004 16:14

finally someone who knows exactly what im on about thanks Flogbag thats exactly what i needed to know thanks to everyone who posted, i really appreciate the help. i know it must've been hard to know what i was talking about without actually seeing it cheers [Report message to a moderator]

driftae86
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Re: Need help with stereo	Wed, 15 September 2004 02:50

ok, ive got power to the cd player. i can eject the cd from it BUT nothing is coming up on the face of the stereo. does someone know why this is happening? could the fuse be gone? i dunno also, where on the stereo do i connect the green (dimmer) wire to? the one Flogbag mentioned please help [Updated on: Wed, 15 September 2004 02:59] [Report message to a moderator]

davedave
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Re: Need help with stereo	Wed, 15 September 2004 03:56

Sounds like you have the constant power wired up but not the accessories power wired up. Or you don't have the key in the ignition and turned to accessories The ideal configuration of stereo wires is Yellow - Constant power Red - Accessories power Black - Ground Blue - Power Antenna (or amplifier) Purple - Car kit (mute) Green - Dimmer 4 sets of another solid colour (positive) + same colour with trace (negative - thin black line or dotted line) - for speakers This adds up to 14 wires which is double what you have . The power antenna, car kit and dimmer are nicities which aren't on every deck. Your Deck may also only be two channel. Without trying to confuse you, this might offer an explanation to some missing wires. Some decks also share a common speaker negative. Normally between the same side channels (eg, left front and left rear) but I imagine they could share the same negative for all channels. Also, I think you can wire the dimmer wire up to anything that gets power when your lights go on, eg, a little light behind your dash or the wire on your indicator stalk (if that's where you turn your lights on) that is for lights. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. A test light is great for finding stuff like this. Hoppe this helps, Dave [Updated on: Wed, 15 September 2004 04:13] [Report message to a moderator]

driftae86
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Re: Need help with stereo	Wed, 15 September 2004 04:23

i believe i have figured out the problem. in this stereo the accesories wire is yellow and the power is red. there is a fuse on the yellow wire (accesories wire) and it may be blown. that would mean that i have constant power but no accessories power causing nothing to show up on the face. maybe... [Report message to a moderator]

davedave
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Re: Need help with stereo	Wed, 15 September 2004 04:31

Are you sure? The constant is the one that the stereo get's its power from, it's normally a little thicker and has a fuse on it (and usually yellow). The accessories (usually red), is just an indicator for the stereo to turn on. Easy test to see if your stereo works is to plug both your stereo constant and accessories to a constant power and it should all light up (nb: You may have to turn the stereo on). [Report message to a moderator]

driftae86
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Re: Need help with stereo	Wed, 15 September 2004 04:50

i tried what you suggested and nothing worked. maybe ive got my car wires mixed up? thanks for your help anyway, i need to go to uni now, ill be back in a couple of hours to try and get this all sorted out. [Report message to a moderator]

driftae86
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Re: Need help with stereo	Wed, 15 September 2004 09:15

SORTED the cd player is in now [Report message to a moderator]

muaythaiman
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Re: Need help with stereo	Wed, 15 September 2004 09:32

no offence, but it would have been alot easier to buy a 2 dollar test light! good on ya for getting it to work. [Report message to a moderator]

davedave
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Re: Need help with stereo

Wed, 15 September 2004 11:36

driftae86 wrote on Wed, 15 September 2004 19:15

SORTED

the cd player is in now Very Happy

Good to hear

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