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Brisbane
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February 2004
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Crank Pulley Removal
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Sat, 18 September 2004 09:15
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Hey all, how do I undo the bolt on the crank pulley while the engine is on a stand? Is there some place I can brace so it doesnt move the whole crank? On a 1ggte btw.
Help appreciated.
Cheers.
Dust
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Location:
Sydney
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June 2004
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Re: Crank Pulley Removal
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Sat, 18 September 2004 09:29
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if the flywheel is still on then use something to lock the fly in place so it doesnt turn.
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put a solid pole through the pulley (between the holes) and while pushing pole clockwise, use breaker bar and socket and turn anti-clockwise - have someone help you for extra strength
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if you can get your hands on a rattle/impact gun then no need to say anything else
thats all i can think of for now
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Location:
Lost in the K hole
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: Crank Pulley Removal
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Sat, 18 September 2004 09:38
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im guessing you dont have a rattle gun..
so
1 - take sump off and
2 - take engine off stand and place on floor (on say a spare tyre)
3 - wedge a piece of wood between the the #1 cyl crank counterweight and the block.
4 - get socket + breaker bar + long piece of pipe
5 - get friend to stabilise engine on floor
6 - PULL on breaker bar/pipe
i prefer this method to others where you secure the crank by the flywheel, or flywheel mounting bolts etc - this minimises twisting of the crank.
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Location:
Brisbane
Registered:
February 2004
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Re: Crank Pulley Removal
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Sat, 18 September 2004 09:38
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thanks for the reply, but
1. Flywheel is not on
2. pulley wheel is solid, no holes
3. no impact gun :/
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Location:
Brisbane
Registered:
February 2004
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Re: Crank Pulley Removal
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Sat, 18 September 2004 10:20
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that would work ed, cept i dont have a way to get engine off the stand atm 
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Location:
Brisbane
Registered:
February 2003
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Re: Crank Pulley Removal
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Sat, 18 September 2004 10:59
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| Dust wrote on Sat, 18 September 2004 20:20 |
that would work ed, cept i dont have a way to get engine off the stand atm
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-get very long length of rope
-attach something strong to engine that has large loop/hole
-tie one end of rope to overhead beam
- loop rope from beam to loop and back over the beam a number of times
you now have a primitive pulley and the means to lower the engine
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Location:
townsville NQLD
Registered:
February 2004
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Re: Crank Pulley Removal
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Sat, 18 September 2004 12:02
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use a breaker bar and appropriate socket, havee ure mate hold the pulley as best he can. get a big wooden mallet or plastic mallet, and whaaam  give it a short sharp hard hit. the sudden force is usually enough to release it.
hope it works, this usually does.
brett
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Location:
Somewhere on a dirt bowl ...
Registered:
August 2004
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Re: Crank Pulley Removal
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Sat, 18 September 2004 12:31
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| ed_ma61 wrote on Sat, 18 September 2004 19:38 |
im guessing you dont have a rattle gun..
so
1 - take sump off and
2 - take engine off stand and place on floor (on say a spare tyre)
3 - wedge a piece of wood between the the #1 cyl crank counterweight and the block.
4 - get socket + breaker bar + long piece of pipe
5 - get friend to stabilise engine on floor
6 - PULL on breaker bar/pipe
i prefer this method to others where you secure the crank by the flywheel, or flywheel mounting bolts etc - this minimises twisting of the crank.
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| brett_celicacoupe wrote on Sat, 18 September 2004 22:02 |
use a breaker bar and appropriate socket, havee ure mate hold the pulley as best he can. get a big wooden mallet or plastic mallet, and whaaam give it a short sharp hard hit. the sudden force is usually enough to release it.
hope it works, this usually does.
brett
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I've done it the same way with the motor still on the stand by myself, but it was on a 3t. I don't how it'd go with a longer motor.
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Location:
Brisbane
Registered:
February 2004
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Re: Crank Pulley Removal
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Mon, 20 September 2004 11:19
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Still unable to get it off, guess I will just put the motor in and drive it sopmewhere that has an impact gun, get it changed first thing :/
Thanks for the suggestions tho 
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Location:
Montrose, VIC
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: Crank Pulley Removal
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Mon, 20 September 2004 13:30
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Can't kid someone to lend you a rattle gun?
If you're desperate, you can probably hire one??
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tallahassee FL usOFa
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May 2002
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Re: Crank Pulley Removal
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Mon, 20 September 2004 19:49
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strap wrench - make it from an old belt, a loop nailed/bolted to the end of a piece of wood. it's self tightening, the harder you turn the tighter it gets, and a 3cm x 3cm x 1m would do great if there isn't a space limitation.
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Location:
Brisbane
Registered:
February 2004
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Location:
Brisbane CBD
Registered:
September 2004
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Re: Crank Pulley Removal
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Wed, 22 September 2004 16:03
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amazingly i had the same trouble and couldnt get it off wit h3 peoiple but as ed as said after trying the counterweight method i managed to do it myself wit ha long breaker bar and also another lever arm in the opposite direction for the engine weged other side of the crank came off easly with some cussing  jsut food for thought all u need to do is think leverage.
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Location:
Adelaide, SA
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: Crank Pulley Removal
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Wed, 22 September 2004 18:55
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Ahh I remember doing this, but in the car.
We managed to remove it using a 22mm? socket, breaker bar, and 6 foot length of tubing. Took a good hour of persistance but we eventually got it loose... what a bastard of a thing. Next time, I just used the old crank it over method... much better.
Now i've got access to a rattle gun... I cant wait to have to try again now 
Rattle guns are pretty cheap, and a compressor can be had cheaply too... it just wont have much capacity.
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Location:
Brisbane
Registered:
February 2004
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Re: Crank Pulley Removal
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Wed, 22 September 2004 22:33
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well its really stuck, I managed to get 2 flywheel bolts in and jammed a big screwdriver between them (I used an old spanner first, but it snapped) and used a breaker bar with a 4 foot extension, put some supports (bits of wood) under the front of the engine to support me swinging on the bar. but it wouldnt budge, I put alot of weight into it but no luck. Everything was goign great till this snag lol. Guess i will hire a rattle gun on the weekend.
Thanks for all the suggestions guys.
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Location:
VIC, Sth Frankston.
Registered:
July 2003
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Re: Crank Pulley Removal
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Thu, 23 September 2004 02:22
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I had a lot of trouble with my 21r crank pulley bolt. Managed to break two rattle gun sockets...
Long story short, just got out the oxy torch, and melted the bolt out. It wrecked the rubber on the pulley, but meh, was desperate.
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Location:
Brisbane
Registered:
February 2004
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Re: Crank Pulley Removal
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Thu, 23 September 2004 23:51
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ok so i talked to a few ppls before i started this and I was assured the thread on this was reverse thread, before i get the rattle gun on it can someone confirm this for me please.
thnks
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Location:
Sydney (Campbelltown...!)
Registered:
December 2003
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Re: Crank Pulley Removal
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Fri, 24 September 2004 10:53
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gee must be tight
u should only need to put 2 flywheel bolts in and wedge something between them
then get a braker bar about 50cm long 1/2" socket and undo
if that doesnt get it it could be rusted on be carefull getting it off as u might brake the head of the bolt off
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Location:
Lost in the K hole
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: Crank Pulley Removal
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Fri, 24 September 2004 10:56
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| Dust wrote on Fri, 24 September 2004 09:51 |
I was assured the thread on this was reverse thread
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wtf??!! first ive heard of such a thing????
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Location:
tallahassee FL usOFa
Registered:
May 2002
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Location:
Brisbane
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: Crank Pulley Removal
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Fri, 24 September 2004 13:17
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I've never come across a reverse thread crank pulley bolt on a Toyota engine.
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Location:
Brisbane
Registered:
February 2004
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Re: Crank Pulley Removal
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Fri, 24 September 2004 17:56
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lol, damn ppl that say they know it all and really no shit all. lol.
I feel like a fool, wait till i see em, lol.
thanks again guys.
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Location:
Brisbane
Registered:
February 2004
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Re: Crank Pulley Removal
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Fri, 24 September 2004 20:46
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rattle gun worked, yay!
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I supported Toymods
Location:
Sutho/Hills NSW
Registered:
September 2002
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Re: Crank Pulley Removal
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Sat, 25 September 2004 01:07
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im in the same situation
this is how i locked the flywheel
but unable to crack it yet, borrowing a rattle gun at some stage so hopefully i will finally beat it 
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Location:
Brisbane
Registered:
February 2004
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Re: Crank Pulley Removal
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Sat, 25 September 2004 02:57
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spray it with wd40 or innox or similar, seemed to help some
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I supported Toymods
Location:
Sutho/Hills NSW
Registered:
September 2002
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Re: Crank Pulley Removal
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Sun, 26 September 2004 05:02
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tried that aswell
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I supported Toymods
Location:
Perth
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: Crank Pulley Removal
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Sun, 26 September 2004 09:41
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The pole you have is not big enough, you need....
ZE UBER BREAKER BAR!
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I supported Toymods
Location:
Sutho/Hills NSW
Registered:
September 2002
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Re: Crank Pulley Removal
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Sun, 26 September 2004 12:48
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thats what i need :/
rattle gun didnt even remove it, i have a pole but not as long as that and already bent one breaker bar
gona heat it up with an oxy torch tomorrow
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I supported Toymods
Location:
Perth
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: Crank Pulley Removal
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Sun, 26 September 2004 12:50
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Hehe, big fuck-off breaker bar with a pole over the top, hehe, I got the damn thing off while it was on the engine stand  I had the whole thing braced by a block and tackle and my gf standing on one side to try and balance it
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Toymods Social Secretary
Location:
Sydney
Registered:
July 2002
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Re: Crank Pulley Removal
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Sun, 26 September 2004 13:44
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BAH! you are all useless!!
You need:
----------------------------------------------
WST-010: Crank Pulley Undoerer
Comon Uses: undoing crank pulley bolts (higly specialised)
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Location:
Sydney
Registered:
April 2003
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Re: Crank Pulley Removal
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Sun, 25 September 2005 12:44
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Engine 5SFE.
Crank pulley bolt:
After consulting the Haynes manual I bent 1 screwdriver and broke 2 12 point sockets and a 6 point socket.
Tried the WD-40 leave it for days, with a 58cm breaker bar (now with impact socket) and now with my wife on the brake instead of trying to stop the turning with a screwdriver.
Didn't work.
Tried to heat it with a propane torch then use same breaker bar. Didn't work.
Got a 500 ft-lb 3/4" impact wrench. Got it off, but took some seconds to loosen (so don't give up immediately).
Crank pulley:
Tried a 3 arm gear puller. Broke the front lip of the pulley.
Tried a pry bar behind the pulley but it broke the rear pulley lip.
Finally got a "Universal Pulley Puller" but wasn't universal as it didn't have the 6mm (I think) bolts required for the pulley. Got some old carby retainer bolts which did the job.
Now all I need is a new pulley.
I hope this helps anyone trying to so this as the advice I got on this site helped me.
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