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Spanktown
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icon13.gif  ARGH!? No second Gear! Tue, 28 September 2004 12:45 Go to next message
I was having a brisk drive, Gunned it in first gear, shifted at around 5-6krpm and NO 2nd gear!? the clutch was out, and it just reved freely, 2nd gear wasnt engaged at all. I tried this a few times and every time at high revs 2nd does not engage, but it will if driving normally. (3000rpm shifts). If i shift to 2nd normally and then punch it, its fine... what could it be?

[Updated on: Wed, 29 September 2004 11:12]

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Re: ARGH!? No second Gear! Tue, 28 September 2004 15:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
lack of rev-matching? synchros?
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Re: ARGH!? No second Gear! Tue, 28 September 2004 15:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Synchros is a guess...or run out of talent Smile
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Re: ARGH!? No second Gear! Tue, 28 September 2004 16:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i reckon its synchros

maybe low on oil?
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Re: ARGH!? No second Gear! Tue, 28 September 2004 22:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
how would low on oil cause this? because its spinning alot faster and has no lubrication for the gear change??

i was told it may be the detents... ?
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Re: ARGH!? No second Gear! Wed, 29 September 2004 00:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
its not lack of talent, i tried it a few times.. 5?
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Re: ARGH!? No second Gear! Wed, 29 September 2004 08:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
so this has never happened to anyone? Crying or Very Sad
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Re: ARGH!? No second Gear! Wed, 29 September 2004 11:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
syncro!
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Re: ARGH!? No second Gear! Wed, 29 September 2004 12:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i went for a little drive. If i shift slowly from high revs, it goes into gear properly but the actualy 'gate' or gear is much further into the shift then normal, if you understand? longer throw etc.. Only at high revs
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Re: ARGH!? No second Gear! Wed, 29 September 2004 12:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
what car?????? is this something FF/FWD with cables/rods?
it's either the linkage or you.
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Re: ARGH!? No second Gear! Wed, 29 September 2004 13:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
its an aw11 mr2 with cables.
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Re: ARGH!? No second Gear! Wed, 29 September 2004 13:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i'd say syncro's...coz the rolla's have a problem with the 2nd gear synncros. When they wear out, the gear either doesnt shift or pops out Very Happy
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Re: ARGH!? No second Gear! Wed, 29 September 2004 16:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I wonder if the engine mounts would contribute to this problem. Maybe the engine/gearbox moves slightly when trying to quick change in the higher rev range. Could be worth a look as well
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Re: ARGH!? No second Gear! Wed, 29 September 2004 23:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mmn that could be an issue. It worked say, a week before hand when i last drove it hard, then all of a sudden it just wasnt working. So synchros wear out to a degree that stops them from working at higher revs, and keep working at lower revs?

This ones got me stumped Neutral

Oh its an e51 non lsd box behind a 4agte....

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Re: ARGH!? No second Gear! Thu, 30 September 2004 00:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Spanktown wrote on Thu, 30 September 2004 09:47

mmn that could be an issue. It worked say, a week before hand when i last drove it hard, then all of a sudden it just wasnt working. So synchros wear out to a degree that stops them from working at higher revs, and keep working at lower revs?

This ones got me stumped Neutral

Oh its an e51 non lsd box behind a 4agte....

just throw it out and buy an lsd box Smile
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Re: ARGH!? No second Gear! Thu, 30 September 2004 00:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
hah the problem is finding an e51 or e58 lsd box.... in the meantime if this is easy to fix, then well... hehe
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Re: ARGH!? No second Gear! Thu, 30 September 2004 03:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
stumpy wrote on Thu, 30 September 2004 02:34

Maybe the engine/gearbox moves slightly when trying to quick change in the higher rev range. Could be worth a look as well


yeh...the gearbox movement could also cause it
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Re: ARGH!? No second Gear! Thu, 30 September 2004 03:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
on the mr2 owners club a guy said he had the same thing happen to 3rd, and it was a bent shift fork, he seems to think mine is a cracked shift fork. What do you guys reckon?
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Re: ARGH!? No second Gear! Thu, 30 September 2004 11:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I had my gearbox jam in 3rd on me yesterday (Drive a KE70 with a K50 Gearbox) usual ignorant citizen sitting in the right lane on the highway doing 80km/hr not a care in the world, nobody in the left lane for 800m though, so I slammed it into 3rd and accelerated past in the left lane, went to change to 4th and 3rd gear didn't want to move, had to reef back on the gearstick to get it into neutral, Then clutched and tried to find 4th, It was a bit crunchy getting there, but I found it, Changed to 5th and it was ok, Also seemed fine going back down the gears (taking it very easy). I'm suspecting a fucked synchro (also 3rd gear bearing has been sounding sus for a while) And I know my gearbox has plenty of oil, filled it up not that long back, lucky i have a spare gearbox ready to go..
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Re: ARGH!? No second Gear! Fri, 01 October 2004 21:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
worn clutch does that aswell.
give me a ring on the weekend at home!
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Re: ARGH!? No second Gear! Sat, 02 October 2004 04:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i dont think there is anyway its the clutch, just put in, 700kms ago, daikin heavy duty sc clutch.

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Re: ARGH!? No second Gear! Sun, 03 October 2004 00:25 Go to previous message
the clutch might need ajusting or the lne might need bleeding! you might have cooked the clutch fluid with the extra heat of the turbo! so it could need shielding.
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