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 MY BROWN AE86 AND PPL SMACKING INTO IT.
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Tue, 28 September 2004 15:32
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Man its only 5 days and 2 people crashed into me.. and should i say its both their faults... more worse they both have no insurance.. and another worse thing is this arab guy is hesitant to pay for the damage hes caused..
-Arab Scenario
I was driving at the normal speeds @60kms on my way home from work.. all of a sudden a Ford Falcon EB drove out from a side street on my right, never seemed to have noticed the "Give Way" sign..
On my reaction, i clutched in, braked and handbraked. there was only like 5 metres apart towards his car from what i recall.. since my car had no ABS or other computed gadgetry it skidded towards his car and smacked onto him.. taking out my right headlight, cracked my right parker, scrubbed my bumber bar and grill is slightly damaged.
the panel damages are on the front left guard where my right parker light which sits a bit off and the bonnet which suffered bends on the right hand side..
he admitted it was his fault at time of the accident.. since this guy had no insurance, he thinks hes mister panel beater and wants to fix my car instead.. its been almost a week now and he had made no progress in tracking down parts on for this car, which ive been calling him almost every day. i even made contact with trueno.sedan from south australia which he have some of the parts for sale needed to replace the parts.. i told this arab guy that i have a few parts found for sale from south australia to simply buy it and get it.. but the problem is this guy is the biggest liar, hypocrite and biggest cheapskate.. and now no longer willing to make up for his damages..
he says shit like:
-ok ok pay for damage ok?
3 days later...
-im no damage that!!!
-i fix this (parker) and this(headlight) and this(grill) and paint this (scrubbed bumper)
3 days later...
-i only fix headlight..OK?!?
-trust me im no lie.. im muslim.. im good man..muslim no lie..
3 days later
-im no longer fix that!! you want court?!? im see you in court!!
*guys these are no made ups, as i hear this shit from him for the last 7 days..
i understand that this guy is a total stubburn bastard.. but the thing is that he has no idea what grief and shit he has given me to what he did to my car..So what should i do?
-Court? how much will it cost me for the proceedings?
Any pros in law here?
-Go over there and trash his car and get it torched, taking out his sons with samurai swords and machetes?
-Or just Keep driving my beaten up 86, wait until another idiot driver crashes onto me and get myself mentally snapped and becoming a suicidal maniac behind the wheel taking ou other cars in a public street demo derby...which im thinking of doing it..
the other is...
-Aussie dood scenario
Entirely his fault, reversed into me from his parking space, bent my front left q.panel (left door no longer opens), bumper bar no longer sits in the supports.. then again no insurance.. gotta ring him soon..
*if he does the same what that arab guy did.. then the 2 just open pandoras box, ill be a dood with a base ball bat reshaping cars in any car parks nearby..
*guys dont get me wrong, but im really pissed off right now and now felt like taking out lives. specially arabs.. so please if any of you can give any suggestions of help and what actions to take and so on, i would be grateful for all your aids. as it would become a useful reference on later future.. for other fellow drivers outhere that would fall in this shitty hole im in..
- yes.. im sooooo fkin pissed!! OMFG IM GONNA HAVE A BitchFit!!!
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Tue, 28 September 2004 15:36
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why'd u hand brake for
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Potts Point, Sydney
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Tue, 28 September 2004 15:44
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 that really sucks...i'd be pissed too if some dickhead did that to me.
I say go see a lawyer/solicitor, and rock up at his door holding a a summons to court, unless he gives you cash/cheque for the damages.
Make sure you get 2 or 3 separate quotes for it 
Best of luck
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Tue, 28 September 2004 15:51
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Did you report either of these accidents to the police or get a record of them for insurance purposes? If not, you could find yourself a little out of luck.
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Tue, 28 September 2004 22:22
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if u dont get any money out of this arab dick, when we come to melbourne we will give him a call and 'sort him out' if u know what i mean.
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Tue, 28 September 2004 23:12
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| ae95 wrote on Wed, 29 September 2004 01:36 |
why'd u hand brake for
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did u change down or just clutch in?
if u want to stop in a hurry only clutch in if have time to change down a gear.
if u just clutch in u effectively lose any assistance the engine will give with braking, you free roll and your brakes have to do 100% of the work.
sorry to hear about the acco's tho, hope u get it sorted out.
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Tue, 28 September 2004 23:42
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it's a sorry case but i had this happen to me few times. In all the years of owning my sprinter, i've had about 5 things that other people have caused and i had nothing to do with it.
I can relate to you in the arab incident as i had an arab with 5 kids in the back of his station-wagon back into me. He claimed he did not see me and caused $1000 damage to my front end, basically everything was fucked up, bent chassis and panels, not to mention the blue pearl which was near impossible to match. He did not have insurance, and was obviously a poor bastard to deny everything. After days of ringing and reporting to the cops, he reversed the situation and put it on me, and claimed i smacked into him!!!
There was an uproar where i threatened to take it to court and he did not seem to care. By the time all this happened it had been weeks, I repaired my own car, DIY style (cost next to nothing) but my mates and I planned to molotov cocktail his house. 
Maybe the time has come 
I can't blame you for being so fired up because these senseless fucks have no respect, but sometimes you just gotta take the matter in your own hands and move on. Obviously he has not much intention of repairing your car, so just get what you can and fuck him over later. (Try fixing your car at home first - gaurantee it can be done)
[Updated on: Tue, 28 September 2004 23:46]
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July 2004
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Tue, 28 September 2004 23:50
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The question is are you insured if you are make sure you tell your insurance company and then they can chase on your behalf, they have much more muscle and will get better response than you.
I got hit at a stop sign many moons ago by a Turkish guy who got out and asked "why you stop there', to which I replied it is a stop sign I need to stop, to which he replied, "I no do that damage to your car" as we were looking at the paint from his car on my shortened corolla. Anyway gave to insurance company who took him to court to find out he was driving on a phony License.
Moral of story is if you have insurance in these cases use it.
p.s. Don't mention you used handbrake or declutched just tell them you braked as heavily as possible but could not avoid his car.
regards
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Wed, 29 September 2004 01:32
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Let this be a lesson to all -> If you lock up your brakes, be prepared to hit something 
It's always best to only partially lock the fronts (at most) and try to steer away from the accident.
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Wed, 29 September 2004 01:35
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Oh yeah - I charge $50 per beating, but I'm very well trained
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Wed, 29 September 2004 01:46
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Thats some bad luck mate. This sort of shite happens everyday too.
I think if people can't afford insurance they shouldn't be on the road!
Over the years I have had some "run ins" with dipshits on the the road. I have learnt the following:
Even if it is a minor incident, call the Police and report it. The police probably won't attend unless someone is hurt but they will give you an incident report number for later reference if you need it.
Get all the other drivers details, even a written account of the incident scribbled on some paper and signed by them admitting to their fault can be handy (most people will do this at the time of the incident while they are still shaken up). As 9 times out of 10 they will leave the scene and talk to their friends and then just deny their fault in the incident.
Ask if they have insurance and are licenced (you would be very very surprised at the number of cars on the road, unregistered and unlicenced and uninsured). If they do not have any of these things call the cops immediately and explain this to them. If they are not licenced or registered they will probably plead with you to not call the cops and they will pay etc. Call the police, don't listen to them.
As mentioned earlier even if you only have third party property most insurance companies will act on your behalf to claim up to a specified amount in an accident that is the other drivers fault (my old AAMI policy had this up to $3000). Check your policy.
Good luck with it, but these guys sounds like low-lifes and I don't like your chances.
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Wed, 29 September 2004 02:09
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Sucks to hear. Probably always a good idea to keep a cheap camera in your glovebox incase something like this happens. At least then you will have evidence of the incident, even if it doesn't entirely prove who is at fault.
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yamumsbum, Victoria
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I supported Toymods
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Wed, 29 September 2004 03:37
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You'll cut off the power by getting off the throttle. The engine will then work to slow the car down a tad.
Should just learn to do a hard emergency stop properly, the only thing the handbrake is going to do is unsettle the car.
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cambo
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May 2002
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Wed, 29 September 2004 03:50
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good advice from ke382TG
lemme just say the only thing these arab fucks understand is violence. surely you got his details from his license at the time, so you know where he lives. get your biggest baddest friend of a friend to pay him a visit and say something along the lines of "pay up, or im gonna torch your car, with our without you in it. dont make me come back" 9 times out of 10 they dont have to come back this strategy is ofcourse a last resort if you cant get the money out of him. say hes got a week to source the parts and get quotes, or just do it yourself and send him a bill.
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yamumsbum, Victoria
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Wed, 29 September 2004 04:10
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ffs will ppl stop giving this guy tips on how to stop a car.its a bit fukkn late .Mate always call the cops,ur supposed to call for anythin over 500 bucks damage,,and lets face it it doesnt take much to crack that these days..report everything straight away to the cops and to ur insurance co..but what puzzles me is isnt everycar supposed to have third party insurance?isnt that compulsary?and if all else fails molotof that mofo and let Allah deal with the towel head 
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Wed, 29 September 2004 04:58
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| riceburna73 wrote on Wed, 29 September 2004 14:10 |
ffs will ppl stop giving this guy tips on how to stop a car.
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ohh sorry man we werent aware that all of this has already happened.
1stly this advice can be used by him in the future and by anyone else who reads this thread that doesnt already know that what he did inst the most effective way to brake.
2ndly everyone stop edging towards racial comments.
this thread is being reported.
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Wed, 29 September 2004 05:35
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Hi,
At least three excellent points were raised in this topic, in regards to this type of accident, and the sorry aftermath.
1 - Call the cops, even if it's a bugger-all scratch. It will go on a cops report and that can be used later for any further proceedings
2 - Tell your insurance company. If it's not your fault, then your 3rd party insurance will handle it and they have the law and more clout to get a resolution. It becomes their problem then.
3 - Cheap digi cameras are not expensive and provide adequate photographic evidence. Leave one in the glove box and take pics straight away. Take pics from different angles and include stop/give-way signs, etc to prove how the accident occurred.
Extra things you should do
A - Take the rego and license number of the other party. If they refuse to give details, make sure to inform the cops and insurance company of this.
B - Make a note of the time, road conditions and colour and make/model of the other vehicle.
C - Make sure you have a small pad and pencil in the glovebox also to take these notes.
D - Write the above points in your pad so you can remember what to do in case you're in a bingle 'cos, as mentioned, at the time you're still a bit shaken up and maybe forget something.
seeyuzz
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Wed, 29 September 2004 05:45
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Ditto - call the cops, lodge a report and then get your insurance company to hassle them.
I got my damage paid and fixed within a fortnight, no problems ... good thing I caught the person's license plate as he drove away - he was scared I'd push further charges for leaving an accident scene. 
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yamumsbum, Victoria
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Wed, 29 September 2004 06:12
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but what puzzles me is isnt everycar supposed to have third party insurance?isnt that compulsary?
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Not quite. This is how it works in the ACT and I assume in most other states.
Third Party Personal Insurance is Compulsory (but the car has to be registered to have this). So if the person only has this and they t-bone you causing your vehicle damage and personal injury to you they are insured for the personal injury but not the property damage.
Third Party Property insurance is not compulsory (highly recommended though, imagine hitting a $100 000 or more car and writing it off and then having to pay it off).
Then of course there is comprehensive insurance which covers much more than the above.
A lot of people I know are driving around on only the comprehensive 3rd party personal injury insurance and two of them have paid for it the hard way. One was in the middle of a 5 car pile-up (caused by an unregistered, uninsured, unliscenced driven car). My friend had to pay for the car in front of him and it was $5000 (enough to hurt the pocket).
Another friend had a low speed head on in a car park, him and the other car were uninsured, they were both at fault, both cars copped about the same damage so agreed to leave it be and fix their own cars.
Avoid accidents and insurance claims as they more than often turn into a real pain in the arse (I had a guy not stop at a stop sign and hit me and it turned into a 16 month ordeal involving solicitors (luckily avoided going to court), he was insured and was charged for 3 different offences too, I was 100% in the right, it couldn't have been more clear cut I thought, the guy was just a cock).
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Wed, 29 September 2004 06:51
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i wont bother defending my statements cause its obvious that nothing thats been written in this thread has sunken into your skull, and alas will never be.
tho i will say this DONT BE SO SELF ABSORBED
read this thread again, pay attention to what people say, also specifically pay attention to words such as "everyone" and "edging towards"
and yes i agree with u, the AE86 is a special type of car built in secret buy high ranking dorifuto engineers for the sole purpose of not having the same handling characteristics as any other toyota cars of that vintage with drum brakes...
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Wed, 29 September 2004 07:06
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| rob_RA40 wrote on Wed, 29 September 2004 16:51 |
and yes i agree with u, the AE86 is a special type of car built in secret buy high ranking dorifuto engineers for the sole purpose of not having the same handling characteristics as any other toyota cars of that vintage with drum brakes...
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bahahaha. nice.
btw. sucks about this accident shit.
call the cops, get the fucker to pay up.
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Wed, 29 September 2004 07:46
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Rob, your a dibby dobber! 
So Moral of the story is: to Avoid Arabs on the road?
Hope you get this all sorted man, I have a short temper, Id hate to be in that situation, Id be the one getting charges laid on!
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Wed, 29 September 2004 09:14
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Stuff all that crap, get the Melbourne Mafia on then and dont forget, SHIT HAPPENS.
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Wed, 29 September 2004 11:22
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Can i just say that ur not gonna see a cent from this stinky, rotten arab scumbag.
fix your car, torch his, and get on with life...
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Wed, 29 September 2004 16:34
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| DARK86 wrote on Wed, 29 September 2004 01:32 |
*guys dont get me wrong, but im really pissed off right now and now felt like taking out lives. specially arabs..
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you need to get some sort of quote (even if the dollar amounts are bullshit) and make the numbers seem low so that he signs it and use it as an admission that he is at fault for the damages otherwise he wouldn't acknowledge seeing the quote
u know what i mean.. basically get some kind of physical admission out of him and same for the other guy
you seem like a pretty big fag yourself
don't get you wrong but you want to kill people especially arabs? i can only see that one way
maybe you deserved to have your car get f*cked up
you'd think dark86 would be more tolerant living in a country like ours
you also should've called the police on that day and got them to pay him a visit while you were there and get some kind of a police report
that's my advice and i hope it helps, even if you are a racist bastard
do you like killing arabs because they're muslim? because there are christian arabs i hope you know
then again you are ignorant so you probably wouldn't know that
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Wed, 29 September 2004 16:44
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also whoever made the Allah joke..
you do know arabic is a language right? in japanese the word for God is kami
in arabic, no matter what religion you are the word for God is Allah
how old are all of you? why are you guys so ignorant?
it actually saddens me
I heard people from WA and SA were quite racist but I didn't expect this..
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Wed, 29 September 2004 17:34
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to rob: STOP BIENG AN ALL RIGHTEOUS DICKSUCK!! if u drive my car you will understand why.. if you dont have anything good to say here.. go toss yourself up somewhere else other than oppressing an already oppressed person.. (what points are you trying to get anyways) nows that it too fkin late that ive smacked into his shitty EB, which was entirely his fault anyways..
*yes its an 86.. yes its made the same way as other 86 was being made.. no it wasnt hand crafted by dorifto engineers.. no its not uber doober krayzee dooriiftoo mobile..
to clear this Sh!t up, Trick question for you rob:
-how do you avoid a car situated in the middle of the road (covering both sides of the road) with 5 metres clearance away from youre while travelling at speeds @ 60kms, on top of that the car drove out from a side street all off a sudden..
since you sounded like the new tsuchiya or schumacher, whats the best way possible of avoiding it?
note: jumping off a car is not a valid answer.
Thu187 relax... i grew up in an arab filled place... hint the word "Broady" if youre an arab yourself youll surely know this place.. anyways if you have been reading each section thoroughly in this thread, you wouldnt have called me racist, but eneways, thanks for your advice..
thu187 - as ive mention b4, i have shitload of arab (80% of them muslims) friends they even try to nego with this stubburn arab dood.. theyve (my friends)even understood my current anger within me due to its fact that a lot of them are not what you think they are.. i know theres a lot of good muslims outthere.. and sure there are bad ones.. so how can i be racist if i have somalian, indian, lebanese, iraqi, turkish, italian, macedonian, greek, maltese... so understand whats goin on b4 you open your mouth!! but then again thanx for your help...
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Wed, 29 September 2004 18:23
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Just a simple question. Are you insured?
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Wed, 29 September 2004 23:04
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Sorry to hear about your car dude, but there's way too much shit in this thread to let it go on.
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