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High End DIY Engine Management!
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Wed, 06 October 2004 22:24
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The megasquirt has evolved... Who'd like 8 ignition drivers, 8 injector drivers(sequential), a handfuls of configurable outputs, support for dual knock sensors, dual wideband O2, open source software and a set of steak knives which never need sharpening? 
http://www.vems-group.org/index.php?page=GenBoard% 2FVerThree
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Melbourne
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August 2003
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Re: High End DIY Engine Management!
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Wed, 06 October 2004 23:09
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I have been looking at this one also... certainly looks good.
On the other hand there is the MS-II & UMS on the way.
Stewart, I'd be very interested to hear your comments / thoughts on this?
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Location:
Phils
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December 2003
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Re: High End DIY Engine Management!
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Thu, 07 October 2004 06:49
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how much is this ECU?
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Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
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January 2003
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Re: High End DIY Engine Management!
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Thu, 07 October 2004 09:30
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| 3T-GTE wrote on Thu, 07 October 2004 09:09 |
I have been looking at this one also... certainly looks good.
On the other hand there is the MS-II & UMS on the way.
Stewart, I'd be very interested to hear your comments / thoughts on this?
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they've come a fair way since it started.
it's wrong to say this is an evolved megasquirt, as it is based on a different processor, and has no support from the MS group at all.
but, it does appear to have more capability than the plain MS.
i can't really comment as i have been focusing on the MS side of things 
but, as i said, the only ppl you can get support from is them. it looks to be more of a developers type of thing, as opposed to a polished product (not that MS is perfectly polished..)
cost looks like 200 euro (AUD$340) for this one, assembled for 450euro (AUD$765) plus postage compared to AUD$210 for plain MS delivered (from us).
MS2 will be ignition outputs and bigger table than MS. UMS is a completely different ballpark. UMS will outspec many ECU's for certain things.
your choice, what are your development skills like?
Cya, Stewart
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Montrose, VIC
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May 2002
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Re: High End DIY Engine Management!
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Thu, 07 October 2004 10:26
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Sounds like it might be of some use, as well as a good toy to play with - I might have to get me one, see what makes it tick. 
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Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
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January 2003
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Re: High End DIY Engine Management!
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Thu, 07 October 2004 11:57
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well, Atmel processor instead of the HC908.
the MS2 will be a HC912?? and the code will be written in C rather than assembler.
check it out and let me know what you think 
Cya, Stewart
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cambo
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May 2002
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Re: High End DIY Engine Management!
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Thu, 07 October 2004 12:01
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a friend just got one (normal one) and is getting all the bits together to convert is 308 to injected. looks like a cheap and effective way to go from carb to injected.
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Montrose, VIC
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May 2002
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Re: High End DIY Engine Management!
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Thu, 07 October 2004 12:16
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Hmmm, personally I actually prefer assembler to C.. but hey, guess I really am stuck in the 80s 
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I supported Toymods
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melbourne
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June 2002
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Re: High End DIY Engine Management!
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Thu, 07 October 2004 12:25
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i remember assembly, those were the days. i think you would go rapidly insane tryin to write a program more complex than a reaction time timer though.
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Toymods Social Secretary
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Sydney
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July 2002
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Re: High End DIY Engine Management!
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Thu, 07 October 2004 13:23
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good old assembler - thank buddy christ i never had to play with that shite!
Now C i can understand!
Stew - howw far off is the UMS now?
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Montrose, VIC
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May 2002
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Re: High End DIY Engine Management!
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Thu, 07 October 2004 13:29
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Assembler was FUN when I was 8 years old, thank you very bloody much To be honest, programming fullstop isn't exactly my thing.. But I do like the prospect of being able to fiddle with the code for the ECU
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Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
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January 2003
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Re: High End DIY Engine Management!
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Thu, 07 October 2004 13:35
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| THE WITZL wrote on Thu, 07 October 2004 23:23 |
good old assembler - thank buddy christ i never had to play with that shite!
Now C i can understand!
Stew - howw far off is the UMS now?
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LOL, co.. co.. coding? what?
see new thread for info.
for those wanting an expandable interesting project, check out the VEMS. it started as an MS spinoff and has grown from there.
Cya, Stewart
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Hobart
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June 2002
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Re: High End DIY Engine Management!
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Thu, 07 October 2004 13:57
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hah... you think assembler is bad.. im designing a microprocessor for a uni project. i have to HAND assemble my code.... now thats tedious.
cheers
Chris
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Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
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January 2003
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Re: High End DIY Engine Management!
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Thu, 07 October 2004 14:25
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| 1ndecent wrote on Thu, 07 October 2004 08:24 |
The megasquirt has evolved... Who'd like 8 ignition drivers, 8 injector drivers(sequential), a handfuls of configurable outputs, support for dual knock sensors, dual wideband O2, open source software and a set of steak knives which never need sharpening?
http://www.vems-group.org/index.php?page=GenBoard% 2FVerThree
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1ndecent, do you have one of these? have you heard of many cars successfulyl running these? i'm keen to find out more from those with first hand experience
Cya, Stewart
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Location:
Phils
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December 2003
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Re: High End DIY Engine Management!
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Fri, 08 October 2004 00:07
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this is a nice ecu.. with ignition outputs...
is anybody try this ecu?
can you give us any feedback?
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Location:
Melbourne
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October 2004
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Re: High End DIY Engine Management!
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Fri, 08 October 2004 01:21
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Yeah my bro has the megasquirt and has it half assembled but it's gone on the back burner for a little bit due to an intersate relo for him with work and finishing off his house.
I'm thinking about taking it over as I want to put it on the 3TG turbo we have sitting in the back yard waiting for a nice celica shell. Actually we had the motor running in an early shell with a remapped Camira ECU which ran quite well and the whole setup is only $80 from pick 'a' part.
The MS project has the added attraction for me of being able to play with the code itself which is always more fun than simply burning eproms and plugging them in.
The MS project is far less complicated than the original concept that was based on 68332 I think from memory but this project seemed to stall as a lot of it as TPU microcode which can be a little tricky and thus everybody sat around waiting for the final project which took a looong time and eventually the IC went EOL (don't quote me though).
MS evolved at that point and as soon as I get the parts off my brother I'll get my arse into gear and get it going and see how it goes!
PPC assembler is my favourite
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Location:
Perth
Registered:
January 2003
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Re: High End DIY Engine Management!
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Fri, 08 October 2004 02:48
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No I don't have one... yet:)
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