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 Where 2 go 4 Cressida manual conversion
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Wed, 29 January 2003 04:25
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Does any one know where to go for a manual transmission conversions to cressidas? I have heard of it being done once or twice, but never where it was done. The Supra and the Cressida both have the same engine. So one would think that the "front end" from a smashed Supra would fit in the Cressida.
But i'm only looking to change the transmission. Apparently the '88 supra gearbox will fit.... i've heard some ppl have had trouble with the "bell housing" being the wrong shape.
Can anybody help?
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Perth
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September 2002
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Re: Where 2 go 4 Cressida manual conversion
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Fri, 07 February 2003 15:34
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most people do it themselves
manuals from any 5mge or 7mge supras will fit
u just need to get a different clutch pedal
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Brisbane
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December 2002
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Re: Where 2 go 4 Cressida manual conversion
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Mon, 10 February 2003 11:31
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i like the cressida supra lol...looks alright surprisingly. yeah any w58 would be ok...5me off ma61...a lot of them r ok.
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Re: Where 2 go 4 Cressida manual conversion
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Mon, 10 February 2003 13:46
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what year/model cressida are u wanting to convert?
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Re: Where 2 go 4 Cressida manual conversion
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Tue, 11 February 2003 04:09
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Ok stuff you will need...
Bell housing and Gearbox: Any 5M 6M or 7M (non turbo)
* 5M-E to W58 (MA61 supra) or
* 5M-GE to W58 (MA61 Import? Supra)
* 6M-GE to W58? (these are an import motor..can't remember what from, Crowns, Supras I think)
* 7M-GE to W58 (MA71 Supra, Soarer (not suer if they came in manual?)
Flywheel: As for bell hosing
Clutch and throwout bearing etc
Clutch master, slave, clutch fork and hydraulic lines (from any manual car with W58?)
Clutch pedal and New brake pedal (as you old one will get in the way of the clutch)
Lengthen / shorten driveshaft.
Gearbox (W58) and Gearbox cross member (custom / rework existing W58 one).
There is a lot to converting a car to manual! (and i have probably forgotten stuff!) There is also another option and that is to use a W50 out of an old Crown such as Peewee has done!
Cheers
Wilbo
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Re: Where 2 go 4 Cressida manual conversion
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Tue, 11 February 2003 15:07
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just FYI
you'll need about $1000 for the conversion if u do it yourself
and about $300 more if u use a W58
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Re: Where 2 go 4 Cressida manual conversion
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Tue, 12 October 2004 02:23
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Also a cheap way to make the brake pedal fit: cut the sides off until the manual brake pedal rubber pad fits over.
Total cost: one hacksaw blade & some elbow grease.
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Re: Where 2 go 4 Cressida manual conversion
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Tue, 12 October 2004 03:15
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No, the ecu won't care that the auto isn't there.
But you will just have to trick it into thinking the car is in neutral all the time, so that you can start it.
And you may have the OverDrive OFF light flashing all the time, but you can just remove the bulb.
And don't be surprised if the cruise control doesn't work anymore. (the box NEEDS to be in 'D' to have the cruise engage)
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Re: Where 2 go 4 Cressida manual conversion
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Sun, 17 October 2004 11:32
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wow ppl want big bucks to do this $2000 + gearbox, I was thinking $1000 + box would be ok.
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November 2002
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Re: Where 2 go 4 Cressida manual conversion
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Mon, 18 October 2004 14:39
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Any one got one for a MX-73??
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Re: Where 2 go 4 Cressida manual conversion
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Mon, 18 October 2004 14:56
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| pannelvan_screema wrote on Mon, 18 October 2004 22:39 |
Any one got one for a MX-73??
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You will have to make a bitsa from other Toyota's
(unless the MX83 set is somehow the same as the MX73 set.
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Re: Where 2 go 4 Cressida manual conversion
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Tue, 19 October 2004 00:17
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| CrUZsida wrote on Tue, 19 October 2004 00:56 |
| pannelvan_screema wrote on Mon, 18 October 2004 22:39 |
Any one got one for a MX-73??
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You will have to make a bitsa from other Toyota's
(unless the MX83 set is somehow the same as the MX73 set.
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I think norbie said once that it was the same as an MA61/RA6X one (think he said he knew ppl that had used them ok), but I'm not sure!
Cheers
Wilbo
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Re: Where 2 go 4 Cressida manual conversion
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Tue, 19 October 2004 00:54
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It is NOT the same clutch pedal bracket as an xA6x
You cannot use this bracket with a custom stabiliser.
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Re: Where 2 go 4 Cressida manual conversion
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Tue, 19 October 2004 03:39
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I'm in the same boat wanting to change to manual w58 for my ma70 turbo. It's really starting to add up, the gearbox is extremly hard to find, and i won't even bother with a R154 becuase of the price alone. I'd need all the extra bits (clutch stuff etc) aswell as w58 tailshaft, and lastly a manual ECU wich runs abit more boost stock.
i'm starting to think maybe i will just buy another auto :(-
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Re: Where 2 go 4 Cressida manual conversion
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Tue, 19 October 2004 03:47
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| dingaling wrote on Tue, 19 October 2004 11:39 |
i'm starting to think maybe i will just buy another auto :(-
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You WONT regret going to manual
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Re: Where 2 go 4 Cressida manual conversion
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Tue, 19 October 2004 04:48
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i know, i miss manual so much.
i have to live with an auto that doesn't stay in gears, I had to show off the supra power (in a safe place) so i put the auto in L and attempted a burnout, but no! the auto shifts up to 2nd, and my pathetic 2nd gear burnouts gave everone the impression that my supra is shit. It's had me depressed for a few days now. Must get manual, not for burnouts just for better power delivery and fun changing gears.
Where can i get a W58? all the importers tell me there so rare to find these days! no one selling on toymods at the moment. And R154's are going for $1500+
Toyota gearboxes are in such high demand becuase all the comodore and falcon drivers want them too. :(-
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Re: Where 2 go 4 Cressida manual conversion
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Tue, 19 October 2004 04:51
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Get a W57/W58 from an RA60/RA65 Celica that is wrecking.
Then you just need an M-series bellhousing, and an MA70 shifter position.
Getting a box is easy, its the bellhousing and shifter position that is hard.
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Re: Where 2 go 4 Cressida manual conversion
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Tue, 19 October 2004 05:00
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i wasn't aware w58's came out of old celica's. Thanx for that juicy bit. Makes things easier.
Does the tailshaft have to come out of a W58 equiped supra/cressida?
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Re: Where 2 go 4 Cressida manual conversion
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Tue, 19 October 2004 05:03
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I am led to beleive that the A340E tranny output shafter is larger than the W58 output shaft.
So you will need a W58 yoke.
Take your current shaft, and the W58 yoke to a driveshaft shop, and get them put together.
You will need to lengthen it anyway.
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Re: Where 2 go 4 Cressida manual conversion
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Tue, 19 October 2004 05:09
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ah right ok that makes sense. Altho it gets more expensive the more i look into it. I'd hate to know what it would cost to convert to a R154, i may aswell sell the supra and buy another one that is already manual 
thanx for the info Cruzida
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Re: Where 2 go 4 Cressida manual conversion
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Tue, 19 October 2004 05:14
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| dingaling wrote on Tue, 19 October 2004 15:09 |
thanx for the info Cruzida
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Hehe the local auto -> manual guru!
Cheers
Wilbo
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Re: Where 2 go 4 Cressida manual conversion
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Tue, 19 October 2004 05:16
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Hehe, damn straight.
Incidently, if you do do this conversion in the next week or 2, and you have the A340E yoke left over, I need one.
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Re: Where 2 go 4 Cressida manual conversion
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Tue, 19 October 2004 08:53
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Someone in this thread has obviously carried out this conersion on their MX73.
What clutch pedal did they use?
And the parts list, are they genuine parts part numbers?
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Re: Where 2 go 4 Cressida manual conversion
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Tue, 19 October 2004 09:02
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Cool, that obviously didn't come from this country so I have been told.
How did you get hold of one?
As for the part numbers?
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Re: Where 2 go 4 Cressida manual conversion
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Tue, 19 October 2004 09:03
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You don't need any part numbers.
What ones did you want specifically.
I can tell you were to get everything.
As for the clutch pedal bracket, it was a one in a million chance of finding probably the only manual GX61 in WA, and it was wrecking.
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Re: Where 2 go 4 Cressida manual conversion
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Tue, 19 October 2004 09:17
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OK, thats fine.
I was just curios as to where I could find most of the gear that I needed but mainly required a location of a clutch pedal.
If I can get a hold of a GX61 clutch pedal, does it bolt straight up?
I think that I may have read it in your web page that the W50 is the easiest to install as the shifter position can be placed in the same position as the auto gear selector, is this correct?
Sorry for all of the shitty questions, but it just seems that everyone has all the if's but's and maybe's but no one actually has the hard info that is needed.
By the way, a huge thumbs up to you for going out on a limb and taking on the conversion out of yourown pocket and research.
Any help would be marvellous. 
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Re: Where 2 go 4 Cressida manual conversion
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Tue, 19 October 2004 09:27
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I did that when I was a poor student, and a W58 was out of the question.
Using a W58 (or W55,W57 for that matter) is just as simple once you get hold of the correct bellhousing.
The correct shifter position is the one from GA70 and MA70 Supra's.
The RA6x and MA6x celica's and supra's have the wrong shifter position.
The GX61 bracket all most bolts up.
The height and angle are correct, but the bolt holes into the underside of the dash are about an inch out.
I drilled another hole in between the 2 holes in the bracket, and am using this.
But the position of the pedal is fine.
Good luck in finding the parts.
I'm not sure if MX62 or MX32/36 cressida's have the same clutch pedal bracket, as once I found the GX61, I stopped looking.
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Re: Where 2 go 4 Cressida manual conversion
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Tue, 19 October 2004 09:53
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So, the GA and MA70's will fit with the right bellhousing, what is the right bellhousing?
Is it custom, or interchangeble with another box or something similar?
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Re: Where 2 go 4 Cressida manual conversion
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Tue, 19 October 2004 10:43
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| CrUZsida wrote on Tue, 19 October 2004 19:27 |
The GX61 bracket all most bolts up.
The height and angle are correct, but the bolt holes into the underside of the dash are about an inch out.
I drilled another hole in between the 2 holes in the bracket, and am using this.
But the position of the pedal is fine.
Good luck in finding the parts.
I'm not sure if MX62 or MX32/36 cressida's have the same clutch pedal bracket, as once I found the GX61, I stopped looking.
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GX61's are pretty well MX62's with 1g's right? Well I know for a fact that ST141 and RA6X pedals are not a 100% bolt in fitment to a MX62 (so maybe ST141 and RA6X are a bolt in to MX73's? I don't know!). The ST141 and RA6X do bolt to the firewall fine, but do not bolt underside of the dash (fall short from reaching), I just made a bracket up. Also I had to bend the ST141 pedal I ended up using, and then chop off the foot piece (because of the bending it was sitting at a stupid angle!) and weld it back on level. 
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So, the GA and MA70's will fit with the right bellhousing, what is the right bellhousing?
Is it custom, or interchangeble with another box or something similar?
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Prbly best to go off actual gearbox models, and not the cars they came out of. W55,W57 and W58's will all bolt up to the bellhousing (I got my gearbox out of a car I specifically wrecked, the price was right , I mean heck it made me money, but it does have the crappiest ratios out of the bunch....)
On that note you will need a bellhousing out of either an MA61 (come with a 5me and w58 stock) or MA70 NON turbo (come with 7mge and w58 stock).
BTW in case you don't know I've done an auto -> manual on my MX62 (so I have been in the same boat from personal experience!), a little different I know, but slightly harder also if ya ask me (I had to modify my gearbox crossmember, shifter opening on the car and also the clutch pedal business seems harder than what andrew went through  ) 
Cheers
Wilbo
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Re: Where 2 go 4 Cressida manual conversion
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Tue, 19 October 2004 13:31
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There is also a manual conversion description on the main page of toyotacressida.com Cheers.Pete.
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Re: Where 2 go 4 Cressida manual conversion
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Tue, 19 October 2004 13:37
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I have a 7m manual bellhousing,flywheel.pressure plate etc in Brisbane.If interested email peterwj@tpg.com.au Cheers.Pete.
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Re: Where 2 go 4 Cressida manual conversion
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Fri, 22 October 2004 09:14
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I think I will drive the auto around till after christmas and see what happens. Maybe I can talk somone into to the conversion for a good price. Perhaps I should start collecting parts, if they come up for the right price. I just dont want to wreck the cressida with a bodged conversion.
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