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Winkster
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Floorplan Similaritys AE86 vs AE71 Wed, 29 September 2004 15:20 Go to next message
Its common roumer that the AE71 and AE86 share the same floor plan.

I was wondering if anyone has any knowlage about this?

Im looking to do a move out of a AE71 and into a AE86 at some point and want to know wether my tailshaft, exhaust, suspension etc is all going to move over and bolt up smoothly.

Curently have a CA18det in a ae71

Any relevent info would be appreciated.

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Re: Floorplan Similaritys AE86 vs AE71 Wed, 29 September 2004 15:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
what we need are measurements from the toyota 'body' books to compare once and for all...
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Re: Floorplan Similaritys AE86 vs AE71 Wed, 29 September 2004 22:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Not sure about dimensions, but the driveline will all bolt up fine. There may be a few different things with the lengths of hand brake cables and fuel lines and stuff. But no major differences.
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Re: Floorplan Similaritys AE86 vs AE71 Wed, 29 September 2004 23:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ALL SAME!
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Re: Floorplan Similaritys AE86 vs AE71 Sat, 16 October 2004 10:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
W T F Shocked
well thats good news for all parties involved Surprised
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Re: Floorplan Similaritys AE86 vs AE71 Sat, 16 October 2004 10:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I've had no trouble swapping things like struts, crossmembers, diff, springs, shocks, etc., etc. between them
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Re: Floorplan Similaritys AE86 vs AE71 Sat, 16 October 2004 10:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
what about axels, g/boxs and 4ac engines?
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Re: Floorplan Similaritys AE86 vs AE71 Sat, 16 October 2004 12:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
its also common roumer te72's (t-18's) also share the same floorpan as ae86!
we just missed out on rack and pinion steering Sad
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Re: Floorplan Similaritys AE86 vs AE71 Sat, 16 October 2004 13:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
TE71s, TE72's do share the same stuff underneath - the missing out on workable(!) steering is just bad luck; however a crossmember with a rack on it will bolt onto the rails.
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Re: Floorplan Similaritys AE86 vs AE71 Sun, 17 October 2004 12:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
will ae71 seat rails fit in a ae86?
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Re: Floorplan Similaritys AE86 vs AE71 Sun, 17 October 2004 12:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
yes
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Re: Floorplan Similaritys AE86 vs AE71 Sun, 17 October 2004 12:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
They're not quite the same, but very close.
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Re: Floorplan Similaritys AE86 vs AE71 Sun, 17 October 2004 12:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
SAME SAME!~
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Re: Floorplan Similaritys AE86 vs AE71 Sun, 17 October 2004 12:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
HEADLIGHTS! Shocked ?
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Re: Floorplan Similaritys AE86 vs AE71 Sun, 17 October 2004 12:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i tried ae86 seats in my t-18 the other day, the rails were too close together on the sprinter seats to fit Sad
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Re: Floorplan Similaritys AE86 vs AE71 Sun, 17 October 2004 12:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
jessetamsett wrote on Sun, 17 October 2004 22:13

i tried ae86 seats in my t-18 the other day, the rails were too close together on the sprinter seats to fit Sad


oh noes
we have a problem houston

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Re: Floorplan Similaritys AE86 vs AE71 Sun, 17 October 2004 12:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
meh... all i know is that sprinter seats bolt into a KE70/AE71.

You can also pretty easily fit RA6* or even zee uber MA61 seats, just have to swap the runners on the inside and give a little "love" to the front of the outside runner.
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Re: Floorplan Similaritys AE86 vs AE71 Sun, 17 October 2004 12:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
well thats good news Shocked
ae71 seats for ae86 rwc Evil or Very Mad
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Re: Floorplan Similaritys AE86 vs AE71 Sun, 17 October 2004 12:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Didn't all AE71s come from the factory with the driver's seat collapsed?? Very Happy
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Re: Floorplan Similaritys AE86 vs AE71 Sun, 17 October 2004 12:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
hahah! hell yes!

i know mine came with that special "public toilet seat" feel. Hence immediate replacemetn with RA65 seats.
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Re: Floorplan Similaritys AE86 vs AE71 Sun, 17 October 2004 13:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mine, after 400,000km, had THREE cushions in there just to make up the height difference when I got it Very Happy Digging into the seat when I removed it even revealed a half full pack of Horizon Mild 12. Smoke, anyone? Evil or Very Mad
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Re: Floorplan Similaritys AE86 vs AE71 Sun, 17 October 2004 13:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Floorplan Similaritys AE86 vs AE71 Mon, 18 October 2004 06:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sprinter seats are about one inch lower and about 20mm wider than AE-71 seats, the AE-71 seats also move further foward in proportion to their mounting points. I did the swap and the sprinter seats rub a little against the edge of the center console and I use them in the fully foward position but it still has plenty of adjustment for people this side of 5 foot tall.

Being one of the only people on this forum to own both an AE-71 and an AE-86 I am able to take some photos if people want to see the floor pans in comparasin. That way we will know for sure what the difference really is. If people want me to then I will do it.
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Re: Floorplan Similaritys AE86 vs AE71 Mon, 18 October 2004 10:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Quote:

Its common roumer that the AE71 and AE86 share the same floor plan.




Don't upset the Sprinter owners! It will break their hearts to know that they really just own a regular 'rolla with rounded panels & a liftback Laughing No, really, the sprinter must handle better! Cool

Seriously though, on inspection side by side(without a tape measure to confirm), the AE71 sedan floorpan seems identical to the AE86, but the wagon/panelvan are definately different to these (as I found out), due to the leaf spring mounts Sad

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Re: Floorplan Similaritys AE86 vs AE71 Mon, 18 October 2004 10:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i have the dimensions scanned from the toyota book & t18, ke70(ae71) & ae86 all share the same drawing thats how close they are.

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Re: Floorplan Similaritys AE86 vs AE71 Mon, 18 October 2004 12:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
what about rear seats? mine have a healthy layer of mould Confused

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Re: Floorplan Similaritys AE86 vs AE71 Mon, 18 October 2004 12:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I know with wheel alignment specs, the AE86 has slightly different angles to the AE71. And the AE86 twincam is a bit different again. But remember caster is adjustable. Camber is not, so the differences must be in the bend of the strut. AE86 has more caster than AE71 I think, and the AE86 twincam has more negative camber.
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Re: Floorplan Similaritys AE86 vs AE71 Mon, 18 October 2004 12:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
thats due to the strut tops
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Re: Floorplan Similaritys AE86 vs AE71 Mon, 18 October 2004 13:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
jaa buddy, i have always said its a 4-door SPRINTAH!

If you want to REALLY have some fun with low seats, the RA65 seats sit about 2-3 inches lower than the AE71 seats, or maybe even more. All i know is it feels like a truck cos the steering wheel is so damn high compared to where you sit!!

http://www.rollamods.com/witzl/ae71%20conversion/new%20seats.jpg
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Re: Floorplan Similaritys AE86 vs AE71 Mon, 18 October 2004 13:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
This info is great. Next time I hit something I might just re-shell the Sprinter into a KE70. An easy way to save on parts.

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Re: Floorplan Similaritys AE86 vs AE71 Sat, 23 October 2004 12:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
whats the difference between a ke70 and a ae71? besides the 4kc?
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Re: Floorplan Similaritys AE86 vs AE71 Sat, 23 October 2004 12:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
the mechanicals are different
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Re: Floorplan Similaritys AE86 vs AE71 Sat, 23 October 2004 12:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
like gbox, diff, struts, springs, etc?
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Re: Floorplan Similaritys AE86 vs AE71 Sat, 23 October 2004 13:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Yep I'd also like info on KE70/AE71/AE86/TE71 front chassis rails: are they all the same?

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Re: Floorplan Similaritys AE86 vs AE71 Sat, 23 October 2004 13:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Similiar, as in crossmembers will fit

Rad support panels on all are different (even KE70 and AE71)
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Re: Floorplan Similaritys AE86 vs AE71 Sat, 23 October 2004 14:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I'm only concerned with the chassis rails as I want to replace a damaged AE86 LH rail with whatever will match?
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Re: Floorplan Similaritys AE86 vs AE71 Mon, 25 October 2004 03:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
well ae71 seats wont fit into a ae86 Confused but the rails can, might need some minor mods to fit it in Rolling Eyes
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Re: Floorplan Similaritys AE86 vs AE71 Mon, 25 October 2004 11:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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well ae71 seats wont fit into a ae86


yes they do
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Re: Floorplan Similaritys AE86 vs AE71 Mon, 25 October 2004 13:44 Go to previous message
i mean bolt on Confused or do i neeed to make it fit?
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