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Supercharger pulley
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Sat, 24 April 2004 16:10
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i think the supercharger pulley in the later model is smaller(spin faster) than the early model.
is it possible to swap the smaller pulley to a early model(AW11) supercharger? do i have to use the later model supercharger belt as well?
any help?
thanks.
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Bundaberg, Qld.
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May 2002
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Re: Supercharger pulley
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Sat, 24 April 2004 21:32
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yes it's smaller. the aw11 sc12 has a 125mm s/c pulley, but not sure on the later ones pulley size. you can source the s/c pulley set-up by itself?
depending on how much smaller it is you might run out of adjusment on the belt tensioner and need the correct belt.
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Melbourne
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August 2002
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Re: Supercharger pulley
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Sun, 25 April 2004 05:10
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cool. coz my freind just bought a jap spec supercharged AW11.
thinking any bang for buck way to boost it up.
it think they're must be someone out there with a 4agze who changed to aftermarket pulleys. so i can buy stock pulley off them.
is the engine layout the same for the AW11 and AE92/AE101??
so that i can make sure if i use the belt and pulley together, i will have the right position.
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Bundaberg, Qld.
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Melbourne
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August 2002
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Re: Supercharger pulley
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Sun, 25 April 2004 12:39
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oh, ic. so i am thinking the different way around.
thanks for the info.
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Melbourne
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August 2002
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Re: Supercharger pulley
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Sun, 25 April 2004 12:42
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the page doesn't show the price for the pulley kit.
how much they go for? the 164 and 175?
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Bundaberg, Qld.
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May 2002
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Re: Supercharger pulley
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Sun, 25 April 2004 12:46
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if you notice the BIG nevo sign on the page, click it. that'll take you to a page with contact details.
i do not know their prices sorry. 
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Inside a giant turbo (syd...
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June 2002
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Re: Supercharger pulley
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Sun, 25 April 2004 12:59
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175mm is $550! ill have one for sale soon off my car for less.
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Newcastle
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June 2002
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Location:
Newcastle
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August 2003
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Re: Supercharger pulley
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Sun, 25 April 2004 19:15
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May sound stupid to ask but.........
Nevo is definately Australia... yes?????
What are the foreign alternaative brands used for gze pulleys may I ask say.... in Japan and the states out of interest.
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Newcastle
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June 2002
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Re: Supercharger pulley
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Sun, 25 April 2004 20:07
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Nevo is Australian
do a search on diabolique crank pulleys. Or toyz boost junkie.
US manufacturers
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Sunshine Coast
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February 2004
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Re: Supercharger pulley
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Mon, 26 April 2004 01:34
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Old - are you running a stock IC?
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Re: Supercharger pulley
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Mon, 26 April 2004 03:09
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there is Cusco pulleys, HKS pulleys... all types. Nevo works out to be cheaper. but its still costly for what it is.
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Sunshine Coast
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February 2004
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Re: Supercharger pulley
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Mon, 26 April 2004 03:11
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| Spanktown wrote on Mon, 26 April 2004 13:09 |
there is Cusco pulleys, HKS pulleys... all types. Nevo works out to be cheaper. but its still costly for what it is.
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everything for cars are expensive 
would have thought you would have known that 
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Re: Supercharger pulley
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Mon, 26 April 2004 06:25
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yes some things more than others. its just a piece of machined alloy....
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Sunshine Coast
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February 2004
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Re: Supercharger pulley
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Mon, 26 April 2004 10:12
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ahh but its a performance part=VERY expensive
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sydney
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November 2003
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Re: Supercharger pulley
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Mon, 26 April 2004 10:34
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My question is...... " Is 2 psi worth the $550 you pay for some of those pullies? "
Albeit a turbo conversion costs more, but i couldnt bring myself to pay that much for 2 psi!!!! 
Keeping in mind i never got to drive my car supercharged, i'm going turbo 
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Melbourne
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Re: Supercharger pulley
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Tue, 27 April 2004 00:38
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although pushing 13-14 psi is not good for your SC
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why is it bad to push 13-14 psi for the SC? is it running way too fast? but sound like everyone does that.
what's the stock boost of a 4AGZE in a AW11? and the 2nd and 3rd gen 4AGZE?
what boost will a 175 pulley bring it to in a AW11?
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Location:
Sunshine Coast
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February 2004
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Re: Supercharger pulley
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Tue, 27 April 2004 05:23
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stock 4agze is 8psi
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Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
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January 2003
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Re: Supercharger pulley
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Tue, 27 April 2004 06:31
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something no-one has mentioned, that i recall from the world toymods list years ago, is that the electromagnetic clutch under the smaller pulleys is actually smaller than for the large pulleys, and you may run into difficulty with the larger clutch interfering with the smaller pulley.
i have NFI if this is actually true, or if you can swap the clutches around, but it's definitely something to consider.
2psi? and how expensive is it to get an (effective) extra 2psi intake pressure in an NA setup?  more than my arms and legs
just from simple calcs, taking boost from 8psi to 12psi should give maybe 17% extra torque, so realistically 15%??
hmm 15% extra torque for $550? sounds not too bad really
Cya, Stewart
ps, as covered maaany times before, the SC is not efficient, and higher speeds or higher pressures can raise heat to the point of being detrimental for the teflon rotor coating.
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August 2002
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Re: Supercharger pulley
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Tue, 27 April 2004 07:05
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so all of them , AFM and MAP gze's are 8psi stock?
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Sunshine Coast
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February 2004
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Re: Supercharger pulley
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Tue, 27 April 2004 08:11
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i only know for the aw11, but i dont see why it would have changed for others, unless some 4a-gze's run a SC14 and it has higher boost?
i could always be wrong though
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Re: Supercharger pulley
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Tue, 27 April 2004 08:14
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but the later model come with a smaller supercharger pulley.
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Newcastle
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June 2002
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Re: Supercharger pulley
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Tue, 27 April 2004 15:16
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thats right pepsi.
thanks oldcorollas Its a cheap and effective mod. Good results.
Im pulling 0-100klms in around 5.8 seconds now.
WRX STi does a 5.2
I have done alright for $5500 (Import AW11 + pulley)
Yeah, apparently if the SC rpm goes above 7000 rpm the teflon seals will melt 
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Bundaberg, Qld.
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May 2002
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Re: Supercharger pulley
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Tue, 27 April 2004 21:54
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i revved my 4agze past 7000rpm many many times, my s/c is still in perfect condition.
people say that around or more than 14psi the coating can melt, but you gotta realise you dont drive around on boost all day. i am yet to actualy see a s/c with melted coating and there are a lot of s/c's being overdriven around the world.
i only had a 160mm pulley on mine which was spose to be a 10psi pulley. i could get 9.5psi on a high speed run from it.
originaly when i was researching 4agze's there was three main crank pulley upgrades.
160mm for 10psi
165mm for 12psi
175mm for 14psi
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Sunshine Coast
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February 2004
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Re: Supercharger pulley
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Tue, 27 April 2004 22:15
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ahh Old... supercharger at 7000, not engine at 7000
big difference
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Newcastle
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June 2002
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Re: Supercharger pulley
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Wed, 28 April 2004 14:52
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I have been reading mr2oc.com too much
Ive never experienced it or seen it
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June 2002
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Re: Supercharger pulley
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Wed, 28 April 2004 14:55
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But thats what I wrote zhyr. Didnt I? 
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Wollongong, NSW
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October 2003
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Re: Supercharger pulley
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Fri, 11 June 2004 02:17
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| old_mr2 wrote on Thu, 29 April 2004 00:55 |
But thats what I wrote zhyr. Didnt I?
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That's what I read. It was the guy below you that had it wrong
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Melbourne
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June 2004
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Re: Supercharger pulley
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Fri, 11 June 2004 02:42
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When you overdrive your S/C with a bigger crank pulley, are you spinning your alternator and a/c pump faster too? Or is the S/C on a seperate pulley & belt?
I'm kicking ideas around for getting some decent high(ish) RPM horsepower in my sillycar, and a centrifugal s/c would be ace. I think it'd have to run with the a/c belt though, because of the strut-tower being so close to the timing cover/Crank pulley etc.
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Adelaide
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January 2003
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Re: Supercharger pulley
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Mon, 14 June 2004 06:37
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| feral4mr2 wrote on Wed, 28 April 2004 07:24 |
i revved my 4agze past 7000rpm many many times, my s/c is still in perfect condition.
people say that around or more than 14psi the coating can melt, but you gotta realise you dont drive around on boost all day. i am yet to actualy see a s/c with melted coating and there are a lot of s/c's being overdriven around the world.
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Im on my 3rd s/c in just over a year and i dont drive my car hard all the time. This is what happened to my last s/c
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Bundaberg, Qld.
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Re: Supercharger pulley
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Mon, 14 June 2004 07:46
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far out! 3 in one year.
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Adelaide
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January 2003
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Re: Supercharger pulley
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Mon, 14 June 2004 09:06
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Yep, the first one sheared the bolt that holds the pulley on off, and the second one started to rattle like mad and was getting louder and when i took it off i found the resin had melted away as in the pic above. Ive read that people are running the 175mm crank pulley combined with a 105mm s/c pulley with good results and the s/c holds up fine. Maybe i just had some bad luck. I have also read on a website but cant find it anymore that one of the early falcon air con compressor pulleys with clutch fits right on to the sc12 and lines up and is about 105mm, a good cheap alternative to buying a speedchaser s/c pulley or something.
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Bundaberg, Qld.
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May 2002
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Re: Supercharger pulley
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Mon, 14 June 2004 20:59
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| sikmr2 wrote on Mon, 14 June 2004 19:06 |
I have also read on a website but cant find it anymore that one of the early falcon air con compressor pulleys with clutch fits right on to the sc12 and lines up and is about 105mm, a good cheap alternative to buying a speedchaser s/c pulley or something.
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there used to be this guy from Hervey Bay (a town south of me) he used to drop into where i worked and he rekon'd he had a falcon a/c pulley on his. but i dont remember him saying it was a direct bolt on.
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Adelaide
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May 2003
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Re: Supercharger pulley
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Mon, 14 June 2004 23:04
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Its not a bolt on. 95mm pulley though, same boost gains as a Nevo 175. But you lose the clutch when you do it. EA Falcon
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Taree, 4h nth of syd
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May 2002
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Re: Supercharger pulley
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Tue, 15 June 2004 12:54
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hey there all, just woundering about this ea falcon pulley.. does it work and does it bolt on or small mods??? just asking as my magnetic clutch desided to sieze and brake off making wounderful nosie's.
Also i know they r running the 14psi pully with a modified s/c clutch pulley in nz making 17psi, apparently running nicely everyday:) if u do this u also need a chip in the computer to trick it so it only thinks its doing 14.
any help with the ea falcon pulley would be good as im about to buy another charger
Eddie
(Darola)
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September 2002
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Re: Supercharger pulley
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Mon, 25 October 2004 11:48
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Hi there, came across this thread and am wondering what pully options for the sc14 supercharger are available?? Pully able to be changed on SC only not crank.
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September 2002
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Re: Supercharger pulley
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Tue, 02 November 2004 06:13
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anyone???
have tried contacting speedchaser, so far with no response.
want to keep clutch but go smaller pulley on sc14 charger
Cheers
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November 2002
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Re: Supercharger pulley
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Wed, 03 November 2004 02:16
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As far as I know, no-one makes another pulley for the SC14 that retains the electric clutch system.
Mitch.
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Melbourne
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September 2002
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Re: Supercharger pulley
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Wed, 03 November 2004 02:47
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How does changing the s/c pulley to a smaller one affect the electric clutch?!
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September 2002
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Re: Supercharger pulley
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Wed, 10 November 2004 10:35
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Heard back from speedchaser, their pulleys do not fit the sc14 apparently so does anyone know of any other options. s.c is on a 4y motor.
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Location:
Perth WA
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December 2003
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Re: Supercharger pulley
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Wed, 10 November 2004 10:55
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some of the earlier aw11's only made 5psi ( mine did, its an '86 ) I just swapped my complete sc12 pulley setup for an ae92 unit, you have to remove the whole lot cos none of the parts bwetween themselves are interchangeable in the pulley setup.
The EA pulley does work , i had one on mine but yea it chews chargers like nothing because theres no clutch and it heats up badly. Not an easy thing to have done btw.
Spanktown : CONTACT ME when youre selling it, i have cash.
there is HUGE gains to be had on the s/c motor by ditching that soggy peice of bread like stock cooler, the difference is phoenomenal. I have one on my own aw11 if anyone wants pics or details on installing one.
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) but I could afford a nevo. Great fun in the traffic. Heaps of low end torque and better throttle response due to its light weight compared to factory. And it sounds tough 