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Wed, 03 November 2004 06:44
 
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Let the voting begin.... 
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Wed, 03 November 2004 07:28
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Ha ha ha ha. That's funny.
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Wed, 03 November 2004 07:39
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can you put an option C..."who gives a shit"
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I supported Toymods
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Wed, 03 November 2004 07:42
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option C was gonna be Gov. Arnie, but then I figured it'd leave the actual candidates with no votes 
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Wed, 03 November 2004 07:52
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| draven wrote on Wed, 03 November 2004 18:42 |
option C was gonna be Gov. Arnie, but then I figured it'd leave the actual candidates with no votes
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LOL, yeah for sure.
I think I should be the next US president.
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I supported Toymods
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Wed, 03 November 2004 08:28
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Hell, even that would be better than Bush!
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Wed, 03 November 2004 09:24
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he is pretty stupid...and they're showing the US elections on our tv...wtf  I bet howard told them to do it coz his friend is on 
There was a video clip up somewhere, about sovereignty, and Bush trying to bullshit his way out of it, pretty funny. If someone can host a video i can give it to you 
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Wed, 03 November 2004 11:11
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| davedave wrote on Wed, 03 November 2004 21:00 |
The voting so far
VOTE BY GENDER - BUSH - KERRY - OTHER
Male -----(46%)---- 54% -- 45% ---- 1%
Female --(54%)---- 47% -- 52% ---- 1%
So there you have it, Men want Bush more than Women do!
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go figure
its a shame arnie isnt a native of america
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I supported Toymods
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Wed, 03 November 2004 12:47
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Unfortunately it does not surprise me that the people of the US are as stupid as Australian voters.
Don't forget thanks to his do-gooder born again crap Bush is going to set stem cell research back at least another term.
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Wed, 03 November 2004 12:48
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| warrior wrote on Wed, 03 November 2004 17:39 |
can you put an option C..."who gives a shit"
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I vote for that one.
Seriously, we're in Australia. Yea, that other country that starts with an A.
Bush will win for sure, because to run a country full of morons, you require a figurehead that has no idea on where he is most of the time.
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I supported Toymods
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Wed, 03 November 2004 12:53
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looks like bush wins again
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Wed, 03 November 2004 14:50
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this man should be the next us president
o grant, where art thou?
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I supported Toymods
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Wed, 03 November 2004 16:57
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good to see so many other like-minded people. Bush is ultra-conservative, and basically knows fuck-all about other countries. His stance on stem cells is backwards even for a republican (at least Gov. Arnie is for stem cell research!)
interesting how bush gets all the deep/mid west redneck/inbred states, and kerry gets all the yuppie upper class states.... tells us a lot about whether people vote with their hearts or minds I guess.
http://www.onpointradio.org/shows/2004/10/fassihie mail.htm
that's just how well the war in iraq is really going, without all the media filtering we get (I can only imagine it's even more filtered for americans... but 1000+ dead soldiers and conservatively 20 times that in iraqi civilians)
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I supported Toymods
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Wed, 03 November 2004 17:04
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And then its over. Kerry has rung Bush to concede, the western world has to put up with the stupidity of George Bush for another term.
Americans have just proven to me once again that they are a stupid breed of people, hard to believe down the line we're probably decended from the same people.
I mean, Howard pisses me off, but HOW, I say HOW can you vote for this???
http://www.hamncheez.com/media/mp3/sovereignty.mp3
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I supported Toymods
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Wed, 03 November 2004 17:21
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it's 4am... are you doing an assignment nathan?
and I agree totally... while people in australia thing latham/howard is a dick (depending on who you ask), I can understand how either could get elected, because they've both got pretty good things going for them (to go with the bad).
Bush doesn't really have much going for him, and he's stupid to boot.... maybe americans identify with him more? *grins*
If I were kerry, I wouldn't particularly want to be president of a country where more than half the population is willing to vote for bush - they're not worth the effort
</bush bashing> (hey, it's 4am, I can make rediculous statements all I like)
(just realised you're a perth-wegian)
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Wed, 03 November 2004 22:21
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This is just more proof of how truly stupid the average American is.
Also proves how much Australians want to be like Americans. How much media coverage of the election was there? We don't even show 1/4 that much of the UK elections, and we're governed (ultimately) by them.
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Thu, 04 November 2004 00:12
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Helen Clarke:
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"Where you have strong leaders, as both Mr Howard and George Bush are, and they communicate a conviction about what they are doing, people will back them."
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Unfortunately, Kerry is a chameleon of the highest order. I think Clarke has a good point here.
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I supported Toymods
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Thu, 04 November 2004 01:01
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| draven wrote on Thu, 04 November 2004 01:21 |
it's 4am... are you doing an assignment nathan?
(just realised you're a perth-wegian)
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Haha, I gave up just after 1am...but yes, I'm writing a stupid conference paper.
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Thu, 04 November 2004 01:38
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howard just has his best mate's arse to kiss for another 4 years 
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Toymods Social Secretary
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Thu, 04 November 2004 01:57
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if anyone in sydney listens to Merrick and Rosso, they would have heard a VERY well informed and excellent conversion they had just before the election with Bob Carr.
As much i hate the guy, he is a smart man.
Basically he gave some very good anaylsis of the american populus:
# The typical American of today knows MUCH LESS about the rest of the world than they did 10-15 years ago, and even less than they did 30 years ago
# Education standards have been in dramatic decline in the USA for the past 20 years. Americans are far dumber and less educated than they were 20-30 years ago
Then he gave some personal accounts from his collegues regarding George Bush....
# in a personal meeting an australian diplomat/politician, which was supposed to be about foreign policies and world interactions... all Bushy talked about for 90 minutes was god, and his own personal christianity.
# Bush has expressed his "concern" with North Korea and Iran.... im sure you all know what that means.
If anyone else heard it, you would probably agree that Mr Carr had some very good insightful things to say about Bush.
All i can say is... thank God the USA has a law where a president cannot serve more than two terms....
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Thu, 04 November 2004 02:13
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that is very funny
I would so be tempted to do that if I was him too.. lol
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Thu, 04 November 2004 02:46
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Firstly:
Apologies for a long political rant on a car forum.
Secondly:
These opinions are my own and not those of any other represented persons (legal bs for what I'm about to say)
Begin Rant:
It's a sad state of affair when the head of one of the most powerful nations in the known world can quote "I am a war president, I make decisions with War on my mind" and get re-elected.
Iraq = has been proven in NUMEROUS courts and legal proceedings to have been illegal and unfounded.
Casualties for both Iraq and the Allied Nations are high - yet people still vote for BUSH.
People like George Bush - will only be happy when the entire world is Americanised - it wont be long into this term of presidency before we hear: Weapons of mass destruction have been found in: we need to bomb the shit out of them.
and then compare that to here: our prime minister screws education, health care, old age pensions, has huge budget surplus instead of using it for something beneficial, has spent more on wars than ever before (INCLUDING WWII!!!) and what do we do - we re-elect him too.
Stupid people everywhere. People who just don't have a clue - it's the downfall of democracy - I'm left seething because dumb fuck people vote for the people who fuck us over the most.
GRRR To all of you stupid people - American and Australian.
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Thu, 04 November 2004 02:54
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ra23mad you live up to your nickname
sorry..
lol
however I would like to say that despite all the bad stuff that has gone on and I am not happy about it all either (I didn't think it was all that great to do it in the first place anyway), however hindsight is beautiful luxury and even more, had it been someone or something else we would all just be complaining about how our economy sux and you can't buy a house and crime is terrible, or you can't get a job yadda yadda
there is alway something to complain about and we Aussies are great at it.
however, my personal gripe is the loss of innocence for australia abroad. no longer are we the 'happy' nation that nobody has a problem with and who doesn't do anybody any harm
I used to think "I am so glad I am not an american" because of this, but now crazy Islamic psychos will happyily behead me alongside our US friends.
This didn't use to be the case, and I am sad that I dont' have that freedom I used to. very sad.
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Thu, 04 November 2004 02:56
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I actually drew a massive cock next to the liberal party dick box on my ballot paper and crossed out "liberal party" and wrote John Howard... then put him DEAD LAST.
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Thu, 04 November 2004 03:11
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A Stupid population is easier to govern.
This is part of the plan developed by the democrats in the '30's. The plan is to make America the largest corporation in the world. The US govt is run more like Microsoft than a governmet of the people.
Unfortunately Australia is just the 53rd state of the US while our prime minister has his dick so far up bush's arse (not ass).
MadRA23 was right... aussies are seen just as more redneck americans now to the rest of the world... Actually Johnny started it for us with the Tampa affair. Since then the euros and asians know we are rednecks too.
When it comes down to it... US and Australia v Rest of the World... Call me un-patriotic I'm afraid I will have to change sides i am not patriotic to a country that is just turning into an extension of America. Yee Haw!
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Thu, 04 November 2004 03:14
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Thats a spot on vote for Johnny...
Exactly how they want you to do it.
Labor votors are DUM... but Lib voters are smart and fill out their ballots properly... Thats how the libs win!
| THE WITZL wrote on Thu, 04 November 2004 13:56 |
I actually drew a massive cock next to the liberal party dick box on my ballot paper and crossed out "liberal party" and wrote John Howard... then put him DEAD LAST.
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Thu, 04 November 2004 04:03
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| THE WITZL wrote on Thu, 04 November 2004 12:57 |
# Bush has expressed his "concern" with North Korea and Iran.... im sure you all know what that means.
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Actually, the Americans should have been in North Korea throwing their weight around.
It was proven that they were developing nuclear capabilities (despite the treaty).
Iraq had suspected weapons... But lots of oil!
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Thu, 04 November 2004 04:06
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yeah I know pretty inconsistent huh
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Thu, 04 November 2004 04:35
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My two cents:
One moot point i feel must be made is that us aussies weren't the only ones to leap into iraq, we can't forget our good friends in mother england!
Bush is a knob, there's no denying that, and you can debate about the reasons for going to war for a long time to come, but the bigger knob is of course saddam himself!
Going to war to oust the bastard may not have been the most popular decision little Johnny has made, or the best one at that, but with Blair and Bush both keen for it I can see why Johnny joined in the fray for what he (as a leader of a western country) thought was the right reasons! Where that leaves us now I guess we'll find out, but i too feel a little less keen to go touring around the world as a result...
Guess it comes down to where u draw the line at standing up for what u believe is right...
<runs and hides, waiting for the onslaught>
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Thu, 04 November 2004 04:57
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The war in Iraq was simply a money grab for the oil fields. Plain and simple.
The Americans took troops away from Afghanistan (where they were hunting terrorists which killed thousands of Americans) and ignored North Korea, just so that they can grab money under a flimsy excuse of possible "weapons of mass destruction".
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Thu, 04 November 2004 05:03
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walked into a philosophy tutorial today...
american exchange student in the class and man was he shitty that bush won, good to finally see an american around the age of 20 who has a clue.
then again i'm the past few months i've met quite a few who have loved australia and hated bush...smart young educated americans for a change, i'm impressed.
but yeah i've been anti bush for the past 4 years since my mate at school who is into politics informed me of the dick that is bush.
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Thu, 04 November 2004 07:19
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| Toymad wrote on Thu, 04 November 2004 15:35 |
My two cents:
Going to war to oust the bastard may not have been the most popular decision little Johnny has made, or the best one at that, but with Blair and Bush both keen for it I can see why Johnny joined in the fray for what he (as a leader of a western country) thought was the right reasons! Where that leaves us now I guess we'll find out, but i too feel a little less keen to go touring around the world as a result...
Guess it comes down to where u draw the line at standing up for what u believe is right...
<runs and hides, waiting for the onslaught>
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Towing the line is NOT a strong political decision. What sort of leader follows?
Don't forget that Australia is a part of Asia and our government should consider the impact that its political decisions have on countries in our region.
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Thu, 04 November 2004 10:05
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| spirokeet wrote on Thu, 04 November 2004 18:19 |
| Toymad wrote on Thu, 04 November 2004 15:35 |
My two cents:
Going to war to oust the bastard may not have been the most popular decision little Johnny has made, or the best one at that, but with Blair and Bush both keen for it I can see why Johnny joined in the fray for what he (as a leader of a western country) thought was the right reasons! Where that leaves us now I guess we'll find out, but i too feel a little less keen to go touring around the world as a result...
Guess it comes down to where u draw the line at standing up for what u believe is right...
<runs and hides, waiting for the onslaught>
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Towing the line is NOT a strong political decision. What sort of leader follows?
Don't forget that Australia is a part of Asia and our government should consider the impact that its political decisions have on countries in our region.
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Yer, your right about considering the regions interests, and thats something that would have definitely played on the governments collective mind, but maintaining a strong alignment with two of our historically greatest allies would also have been a contributing factor...
we can only hope that our relations with our nearest neighbours don't suffer as a result!
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Thu, 04 November 2004 10:24
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| Shraka wrote on Thu, 04 November 2004 17:51 |
America scares the fuck outta me. Australia's willingness to follow America scares me even more.
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I reken Australia should dump their relations with the USA..... and dramatically increase our relations with Japan. I actually think that Australians and Japanese have more in common than we do with Americans... I mean they have better cars and technology than the USA, theyre closer... Someone needs to push this!
Picture this.. worst case scenario...
America decides to start saying China has WMD and if they dont dismantle then America will attack... Howard will back it as nessessary...
What would you do?
I'd become an Expat mighty quick. Tokyo here I come!
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Thu, 04 November 2004 11:28
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Thu, 04 November 2004 11:46
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| THE WITZL wrote on Thu, 04 November 2004 12:56 |
I actually drew a massive cock next to the liberal party dick box on my ballot paper and crossed out "liberal party" and wrote John Howard... then put him DEAD LAST.
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I dont think "honest" johnny has done that badly for our country.
To be honest, i voted for the Liberal party over Labor for the fact that Labor is and has lacked any real leadership since Paul Keating.
As for the American election, i too am glad that the world will only have to suffer for another 4 years...it could be worse, much worse. Imagine if he tried to alter the legalities of being president to unlimited terms in office :S
However, i dont think we'll have to worry about American stupidity for ever(as such). No one stays on top forever, the super power status changes hands and i think the USA has pissed off too many countries. China would be my next worry, huge population and rather unknown capabilities(even though alot of the country, especially away from the cities is rather backward and impoverished)
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Thu, 04 November 2004 11:48
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China is definately going to be the next superpower.
Without a doubt. And I don't think it wil be long either.
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Thu, 04 November 2004 11:53
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as soon as they start becoming the new super power (economically) and all that, i guarantee Bush would make up some excuse about them having WMD and attack them to crash their economy 
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Thu, 04 November 2004 11:54
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I dont think even Bush is stupid enough to invade China
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Thu, 04 November 2004 11:57
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| Cyber-punk wrote on Thu, 04 November 2004 22:54 |
I dont think even Bush is stupid enough to invade China
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you'd be surprised...before the iraq war he said "there will be no casualties" to colin powell  if he was serious, then i wouldnt be surprised about him invading china
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Thu, 04 November 2004 11:59
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I don't think it's that simple with China...
They have a huge population, the rest of the world depends on its products (what isn't made in China these days?), and there are plenty of countries that will align with them if America starts thumping its chest.
The two important allies will be North Korea (now with nuclear weapons) and Japan.
I don't think America will win if it comes to that.
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Thu, 04 November 2004 12:01
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none they should all just get over thjem self
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