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Re: 1GGTE turbo upgrade
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Sat, 06 November 2004 08:31
 
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gen 3 turbos?
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Re: 1GGTE turbo upgrade
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Sat, 06 November 2004 10:58
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Don't all 1GGTE's have CT12 turbo's?
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Re: 1GGTE turbo upgrade
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Sat, 06 November 2004 11:29
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Gen3 turbos are a smidge bigger. If you're looking for a decent upgrade I'd look eleswhere.
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Re: 1GGTE turbo upgrade
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Sun, 07 November 2004 04:29
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ok so gen 3 turbo's will be a easy to do. But does anyone know what turbo's will get the best performances with the 1G. I have seen on the internet 1g-gte setup with to4, ct26, and vg30. But I have no idea which is best and works well with the 1G.
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Re: 1GGTE turbo upgrade
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Sun, 07 November 2004 06:30
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VG30 might work but the increases would be marginal. Don't bother with CT26. A late model BB T28 from a 200SX would be a nic budget upgrade, but a nice GT25 would be awesome. 200rwkw+ and boost response in some respects better than factory.
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South Eastern Subs
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March 2004
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Re: 1GGTE turbo upgrade
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Sun, 07 November 2004 11:27
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Have you put in the Wolf 3d in your car yet..Curious to know how they good they work on a 1G
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Re: 1GGTE turbo upgrade
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Mon, 08 November 2004 00:05
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Yep. I installed the Wolf 3d v3 back in 2001. What version of Wolf you got?
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Re: 1GGTE turbo upgrade
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Mon, 08 November 2004 05:59
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I was going to put V4 in but worked out its not worth that much money as i am only going to keep the stock turbos...I just wanted to know if you got less lag with the worf and any benefits you noticed when u had it installed and tuned...
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Re: 1GGTE turbo upgrade
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Mon, 08 November 2004 06:09
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| justcallmefrank wrote on Sun, 07 November 2004 17:30 |
VG30 might work but the increases would be marginal. Don't bother with CT26. A late model BB T28 from a 200SX would be a nic budget upgrade, but a nice GT25 would be awesome. 200rwkw+ and boost response in some respects better than factory.
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I thought the VG30DET turbos were one of the best stock turbos you could get for a decent price? I would have thought that a Highflow CT26 would be decent to make some power but probably a bit laggy.
What is the power goal for this car and what do you use it for?
interested to know about the Wolf as well as I am about to get mine fitted to my 1jz.
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Re: 1GGTE turbo upgrade
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Mon, 08 November 2004 06:13
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| Chris Davey wrote on Mon, 08 November 2004 14:09 |
I thought the VG30DET turbos were one of the best stock turbos you could get for a decent price?
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It probably is, but it isn't going to be a huge upgrade over the CT12's. Sure, they're small, but there is two of them.
| Chris Davey wrote on Mon, 08 November 2004 14:09 |
I would have thought that a Highflow CT26 would be decent to make some power but probably a bit laggy.
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After speaking to a couple of people who've put a CT26 on a 1G, I've come to the conclusion that they offer no power increase over twin CT12's, with a penalty in lag, and when highflowed for sure they'll make more power, but be laggier again.
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Re: 1GGTE turbo upgrade
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Mon, 08 November 2004 07:35
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If i go the GT25 will i need to upgrade my injectors? I have the gen3. If so what will fit.
| justcallmefrank wrote on Sun, 07 November 2004 16:00 |
VG30 might work but the increases would be marginal. Don't bother with CT26. A late model BB T28 from a 200SX would be a nic budget upgrade, but a nice GT25 would be awesome. 200rwkw+ and boost response in some respects better than factory.
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Re: 1GGTE turbo upgrade
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Mon, 08 November 2004 09:29
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Probably, as far as I can tell the injectors are at their limits once you reach the 180-200rwkw mark. Thankfully, 7MGTE injectors are a straight fit replacement.
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Adelaide
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September 2004
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Re: 1GGTE turbo upgrade
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Mon, 08 November 2004 10:18
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What about twin ct26's...or something similar seeing as they're relatively old..? either that or a single gt30 maybe..?
Also, what size are the 7mgte injectors?
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Re: 1GGTE turbo upgrade
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Mon, 08 November 2004 10:22
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| big JON wrote on Mon, 08 November 2004 18:18 |
What about twin ct26's...or something similar seeing as they're relatively old..?
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Whoa, can you imagine the power curve on that, it would be lucky to make full boost by 5-6000rpm! Some of the GT30's could be configured to work quite well, everything would be a compromise, if you are willing to sacrifice some bottom end you can get big power.
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July 2004
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Re: 1GGTE turbo upgrade
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Mon, 08 November 2004 10:24
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7mgte injectors are 440cc
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Re: 1GGTE turbo upgrade
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Mon, 08 November 2004 10:40
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Anything bigger? 
| bstjunkie wrote on Mon, 08 November 2004 19:54 |
7mgte injectors are 440cc
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Re: 1GGTE turbo upgrade
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Mon, 08 November 2004 10:43
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Multiplied by six, are you really going to need any more? How much power are you chasing?
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Re: 1GGTE turbo upgrade
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Mon, 08 November 2004 10:43
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| justcallmefrank wrote on Mon, 08 November 2004 20:52 |
| big JON wrote on Mon, 08 November 2004 18:18 |
What about twin ct26's...or something similar seeing as they're relatively old..?
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Whoa, can you imagine the power curve on that, it would be lucky to make full boost by 5-6000rpm! Some of the GT30's could be configured to work quite well, everything would be a compromise, if you are willing to sacrifice some bottom end you can get big power.
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Haha, just something that was suggested to me...it would be fair nuts tho if you could get it to spool up...
just out of interest aswell, what size are the standard 1g injectors? Aren't they only like ~200cc's?
Cheers, Jon
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Re: 1GGTE turbo upgrade
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Mon, 08 November 2004 10:46
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About that, Gen3's are about 220cc.
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Re: 1GGTE turbo upgrade
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Mon, 08 November 2004 10:55
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Ahh cool. Cos ill be looking for bigger injectors soon...and someone told me that 1jz injectors fitted (see thread) they dont tho, so 7m injectors would be a good upgrade for now????
Jon
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Re: 1GGTE turbo upgrade
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Mon, 08 November 2004 10:57
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What do you mean for now? If the 1G injectors can supply enough fuel for over 180rwkw, and the 7MGTE injectors are spot on double that, how much power could you be wanting?
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Re: 1GGTE turbo upgrade
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Mon, 08 November 2004 11:03
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More to the fact that in a year or 2 that engine wont be in my car, hence for now...
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newcastle nsw
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Re: 1GGTE turbo upgrade
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Mon, 08 November 2004 21:40
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13bt injectors plug in also, they are 550cc, cant remember if they are series 5 or4 though, they use the same plug as a series 2 1g injector plug, and slip straight in like a finger up a bum 
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Re: 1GGTE turbo upgrade
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Tue, 09 November 2004 01:39
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Is $75 each for 7mgte injectors, way to much? Thats what one jap importer is selling them for?
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Re: 1GGTE turbo upgrade
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Tue, 09 November 2004 07:12
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Has anybody found the optimal turbo for the 1g ?
nothing too laggy but still give enough power ?
Also if i put in bigger injectors before upgrading the turbo's would this work ? would it net me any extra power ?
Thanks guys
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Re: 1GGTE turbo upgrade
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Wed, 10 November 2004 03:19
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Are T3/T4 turbo's any good for 1GGTE?
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Re: 1GGTE turbo upgrade
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Wed, 10 November 2004 03:32
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| Mookie wrote on Tue, 09 November 2004 15:12 |
Has anybody found the optimal turbo for the 1g ?
nothing too laggy but still give enough power ?
Also if i put in bigger injectors before upgrading the turbo's would this work ? would it net me any extra power ?
Thanks guys
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ddeane has over 220rwkw and he claims lag is little if any different to stock. That is with a variant of a GT25, so that'd be pretty damn awesome to me.
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Re: 1GGTE turbo upgrade
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Wed, 10 November 2004 03:42
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how do 6 220cc injectors spray enough fuel for 180-200rwkw? AFAIK for a 6 cylinder engine the amount of cc per injector basically equals the amount of flywheel hp they can support eg. i got 550cc injectors because I am looking for around 550flywheel hp.
220hp @ fly doesn't equal 200rwkw
is this incorrect?
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Re: 1GGTE turbo upgrade
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Wed, 10 November 2004 03:43
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Found a new GT28R for $1200. not sure if any good. GT28R compressor 60mm, 60 trim, 0.60 A/R. Turbine wh Dia 53mm, trim 62, A/R 0.64, type wastegated. HP 200-280, Displacement 1.6-2.5L.
I'm looking for 200+rwkw
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Re: 1GGTE turbo upgrade
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Wed, 10 November 2004 03:44
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| Chris Davey wrote on Wed, 10 November 2004 11:42 |
how do 6 220cc injectors spray enough fuel for 180-200rwkw? AFAIK for a 6 cylinder engine the amount of cc per injector basically equals the amount of flywheel hp they can support eg. i got 550cc injectors because I am looking for around 550flywheel hp.
220hp @ fly doesn't equal 200rwkw
is this incorrect?
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I wouldn't have thought it was as simple as that, I was just basing it on the fact that above 180rwkw was where people started replacing the injectors.
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Re: 1GGTE turbo upgrade
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Wed, 10 November 2004 07:06
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| justcallmefrank wrote on Wed, 10 November 2004 14:32 |
| Mookie wrote on Tue, 09 November 2004 15:12 |
Has anybody found the optimal turbo for the 1g ?
nothing too laggy but still give enough power ?
Also if i put in bigger injectors before upgrading the turbo's would this work ? would it net me any extra power ?
Thanks guys
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ddeane has over 220rwkw and he claims lag is little if any different to stock. That is with a variant of a GT25, so that'd be pretty damn awesome to me.
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Thanks mate you cleared it up for me .
I'm really very new to turbos and all this talk about lag and things like that.
But does anybody know if u can have "too big" injectors ?
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March 2003
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Re: 1GGTE turbo upgrade
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Wed, 10 November 2004 12:05
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Do yourself a favour an don't put the injectors in until the dyno graph says you need them.
I put them in while my engine was out and had to remove them due to overfulleing. The car would not run over 4500 rpm. You will need a form of fuel managment as well.
I have a T04e coming soon, hoping to get a relaible 200rwkw from the 1G.
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Melbourne
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March 2003
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Re: 1GGTE turbo upgrade
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Wed, 10 November 2004 12:09
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BTW Chris, Ian B has a wolf running on his jzz Soarer, very happy with it! He is on the ALSC forum.
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Re: 1GGTE turbo upgrade
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Wed, 10 November 2004 22:22
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I don't claim to be an expert either.
The GT range of turbos are dual ceramic ball bearing, to promote earlier spooling. The hp rating is claimed at the flywheel, so expect a 30% loss to give your atw figure. Beware some sites claim different HP ratings to others so just double check. Its not just about the highest power produced, its more about where the power is produced in the rev range. If you can get a ballbearing turbo then its more likely to be early spooling. I think the T3/4 style are sleeve bearing. Nothing wrong with them, but they will spool later.
Hopefully someone else can add to this to help you pick the right turbo for your car.
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Re: 1GGTE turbo upgrade
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Wed, 10 November 2004 23:44
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| acmtt wrote on Wed, 10 November 2004 23:09 |
BTW Chris, Ian B has a wolf running on his jzz Soarer, very happy with it! He is on the ALSC forum.
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thanks mate!
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Re: 1GGTE turbo upgrade
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Sat, 13 November 2004 07:16
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| eakonee wrote on Fri, 12 November 2004 21:27 |
racing turbo
(HKS or garret) T04E,T04R
(Blizt or KKK) K26,K27,K3T
(Greddy or Mitsubishi)TD06
standard Turbo
SR20(BB),RB25(BB)black fin,7M
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A t04r or KKK K27 will be pretty damn laggy on a 1g. I chose not to get the t04r and one reason was too much lag on my 1jz (2.5L)
However, if is barely used on the street and only drag racing then I guess bigger is better
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Re: 1GGTE turbo upgrade
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Sat, 13 November 2004 13:17
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The hole problem is that my brother's VR4 Mitsubishi (167awkw) with a TD05 , is kicking my ass. So i'm looking for 200+rwkw with no lag to beat him.
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Re: 1GGTE turbo upgrade
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Sat, 13 November 2004 13:40
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Haha, as in Galant VR4? Good IC and exhaust with an aftermarket ECU, you should have enough of a weight advantage for the power to be a non issue. If someone can get 163rwkw from just an ECU, with a decent intercooler as well you should be able to put your car out of his reach 
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Re: 1GGTE turbo upgrade
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Sat, 13 November 2004 22:29
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The Gt25 sounds like a good option then. The earlier spooling the better, especailly when you are up against a awd!!
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