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Ballarat, Vic.
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Re: hot4's warning
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Thu, 11 November 2004 16:10
 
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saw the cops that pulled me up in the mr2 the other night. They drove straight past a VN dummped on its guts on rims with a blown tail light....... didnt' even blink tiwce at them 
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Location:
Adelaide, SA
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May 2002
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Re: hot4's warning
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Thu, 11 November 2004 23:13
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Well... if doing a straight swap conversion (ie. 1g-ge to 1g-gte) requires engineering, then any engine work that requires the engine to be moved at all should need engineering!
I dislike the anti-mod theme that the cops have going now. I don't mind them pulling over wankers though!
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I Supported Toymods
Location:
melbourne.vic.au
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: hot4's warning
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Fri, 12 November 2004 14:49
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I wish the law tighten up their act with 'p' platers driving high powered vehicles ie. HSV, STI, FPV etc. and pull them over as much as they do me with people *They think is .05 (blood alcohol) over the limit *
For those that haven't been caught yet, I hope you people that drive like fools meet "the tree/pole" in person. {In reference to HERE}
Cheers.
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Location:
Sydney
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April 2004
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Re: hot4's warning
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Fri, 12 November 2004 22:47
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if you ever get a defect for somthing stupid like not having the washer bottle full,,,GO TO COURT! especially if your car is legit in every other way..clog up the system,show the judge that whilst your car is modified you have done it legally and incurred extra expence by doing so,the charging officer knew this and had to resort to issueing a fine of this calibre just to pin anything on me...i also explain to the copper at the time that I have family that are cops,not in a way to get off but just saying that I respect the job that they are doing but this type of crackdown is even making me loose respect for them..make sure you talk to the leading officer in the crackdown,,,and stand your ground,they arent allowed to swear at you and they must give you their badge number if you ask for it..
the people we should be angry at,is the ricers!
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Location:
victoria
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November 2004
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Re: hot4's warning
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Sat, 13 November 2004 07:21
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its all the dickheads in there commodores, doing burnouts on public roads
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Location:
Ballarat, Vic.
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September 2002
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Re: hot4's warning
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Sun, 14 November 2004 04:45
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| riceburna73 wrote on Sat, 13 November 2004 09:47 |
if you ever get a defect for somthing stupid like not having the washer bottle full,,,GO TO COURT! especially if your car is legit in every other way..clog up the system,show the judge that whilst your car is modified you have done it legally and incurred extra expence by doing so,the charging officer knew this and had to resort to issueing a fine of this calibre just to pin anything on me...i also explain to the copper at the time that I have family that are cops,not in a way to get off but just saying that I respect the job that they are doing but this type of crackdown is even making me loose respect for them..make sure you talk to the leading officer in the crackdown,,,and stand your ground,they arent allowed to swear at you and they must give you their badge number if you ask for it..
the people we should be angry at,is the ricers!
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It wont make diddly squat difference at the end of the day general joe blo will think the cops are doin a good job cracking down and getting rid of the "hoons". My folks are kinda the same but they are changing after i keep beating it into their heads. Hell i'd cop stuff if i was being stupid but i hate coping stuff for doin nothing!
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Location:
Brisbane, QLD
Registered:
February 2003
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Re: hot4's warning
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Sun, 14 November 2004 06:32
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| DRiiFT_King wrote on Sat, 13 November 2004 17:21 |
its all the dickheads in there commodores, doing burnouts on public roads
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What about the dick heads in sprinters, supras, mr2's, corollas, skylines, wrx's, Silvia's, 200sx's etc etc etc who do burnouts on public roads?
Generalizations like "all commodore drivers are dick heads" is narrow minded.
A more accurate(or so i think) way of saying what you did would be almost exactly the same...but minus the commodore bit.
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Location:
Ballarat, Vic.
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September 2002
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Sun, 14 November 2004 06:52
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Sorry we should say that most are.
Funnily enough was talking to a mate before, convo changed about another mates commo thats currently stuffed. Anyway i asked him what was wrong with it and aparently he was told from our mate "clunking really bad and wont rip skids"  The car must be stuffed if he can't get it ripping a skid. Its a wonder that it lasted that long though the amount of hell it's been given. Clutch/box died from skids, and the amount of tyres its gone through
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Location:
Hills, Sydney
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June 2004
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Sun, 14 November 2004 08:09
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In my opinion, the police are gathering as much information about modified vehicles as possible, for their own gain.
Allot of modified vehicle owners have far better driving skills then you average Cop. This is why they want to implement the power to weight ratio for P platers. They hate the idea that a teenage "punk" could outrun and outmaneuver a police V8 in a worked import or a home grown push-rod, that is as good or better than a police car.
Another factor that comes into this equation; the increasing number of police cars being the 184kw BA Falcons and even Mitsubishi Magna's. A worked Hatchi or Civic can get away from those on many kinds of roads, if the driver is highly skilled.
Just my 2 cents 
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Location:
Melbourne
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May 2002
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Re: hot4's warning
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Sun, 14 November 2004 13:19
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I can't wait for them to crack down on P platers in high powered cars personally... 
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Location:
Hills, Sydney
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June 2004
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Location:
Adelaide
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January 2004
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Re: hot4's warning
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Sun, 14 November 2004 14:07
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sorry but the statistics tell teh story, the p platers are more dangerous on average.
i know there are decent p plater drivers, but its the stupid ones that ruin it for all of u, now u have the 2 stage system in SA also, makes it harder and longer to get on ur full.
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Location:
Perth
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September 2004
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Re: hot4's warning
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Sun, 14 November 2004 14:30
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Hey, anything to get rid of those rich 17yo singaporean guys that drive maxed out '98 Supras. Oooo they piss me off... I mean if it were a 17yo singaporean guy who'd earned the money himself then sure, no problems, and he can probably drive too, but these kids that get hugely powerful toys for their birthdays just piss me off.
/jealous. 
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Location:
Melbourne
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May 2002
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Re: hot4's warning
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Sun, 14 November 2004 14:45
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Sorry mate, in a system where you are only taught to pass a test, not to drive... then the younger you are...
I've been to driver courses, was cocky, saw a bunch of other cocky teenage drivers... we got our asses kicked
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Toymods member
I supported Toymods
Location:
Rydalmere, NSW
Registered:
May 2002
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Sun, 14 November 2004 14:55
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To make a fair comparison, to me P-plater's are much like orange belt Karate students in a sparring match. Orange is regarded as being a dangerous belt to be on because the students have gotten past the "lower" grades (ie. white and yellow) and think that they're getting somewhere with more experience. This builds up unjustified confidence against their knowledge thus far of the Karate system and they become dangerous because of it.  They think they're bullet-proof and just want to be let off the leash. I've seen more broken noses in kumite tournaments among lower grade karate students than against higher grades, and justifiably so because the higher grades have more experience and control over their actions instead of letting their impulses loose.
Now translate this to driving a car and apply it to a "normal" situation on the road. You can see why the cops take a very keen interest in P-plater's. It's because most of the time they're still learning about the road and the conditions and letting unfounded confidence overtake their commonsense. Hand them a higher-powered car and you've got a more dangerous mix.
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Location:
Perth
Registered:
September 2004
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Re: hot4's warning
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Sun, 14 November 2004 14:55
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Sad but true. They can't base licenses on skills learned through real driver training, though, because it would be discriminating against people with no skill, and in this country they are the majority. *sigh*
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Location:
newcastle
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April 2004
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Re: hot4's warning
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Wed, 17 November 2004 05:50
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spoke to a friend today who happens to be a boy in boy
who confirmed they are looking in forums to stop anti-social
'hoon' behaviour by removing 'dangerous' vehicles from
nsw roads. His opinion - its a load of shit
Did not say they have looked at this one ( so many car forums )
and yes they know that we know their looking!
His advice was to remove info If your concerned about
people knowing too much about your car
as stated article comes out in dec hot4's
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Location:
Sydney
Registered:
May 2003
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Re: hot4's warning
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Wed, 17 November 2004 06:32
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| random wrote on Tue, 09 November 2004 18:24 |
every couple of months this same thing pops up.
dude- if you chop your springs so you car is low, its not functional! how would you feel if some fukn tool in a slammed gemini with no springs skips across a road because he has no travel in his suspension and kills your mum?!?
if you turbo your engine and dont bother upgrading your breaks then you deserve to be defected.
if you increase engine size and power output significantly without chassis strengthening you deserve to get defected. an old celica wasnt designed to have 200+ kw.
people who modify cars illegally deserve to get defected becasue you are breaking the law, and you fuk the rest of us.
if you drive a car with an illegal modification you void your CTP greenslip, so then you drive like an idiot and crash into the back of my girlfriends 68 dub because you sick turbo didnt leave money for a break upgrade and she ends up with a fractured 3rd vertebrae... medical bills arent cheap and you have no insurance, repairs alone for new boot, rear guards and a bumper bar are $4000 alone, yeah you heard right 4G just for the repairs.
if you are worried about being pulled over and deected GET YOUR CAR ENGINEERED! if you wont pass engineering you car is not safe, dont drive it. THIS IS NOT HARD TO COMPREHEND. 18 inch wheels and no springs can become dangerous to you, and other road users. to engineer 18 inch wheels you must be able to reach full lock in both directions without scrubbing and maintain full suspension travel. see how that makes the car safe and yet still sully sick?!? oh but wait, that would mean doing a C-section and body drop (mini truckers do it) and that another 10grand, dude lets just chop the springs hey bro, i hope those fukn piggers dont try and defect me!
fuk i sound old. (im 22 and i have had a few very quick cars, i just hate dickheads who dont THINK)
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i tend to agree with you except even after getting your car engineered your still treated like a criminal and face harassment
there is no simple answer besides educating those piz and the polklies who legislate this due to minority groups who proclaim this si what general society desire
simple as
if its illegal for use it should not be for sale
its akin to pot being sold at ya supermarket yet is illegal to consume in any way form or manner
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