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adelaide, SA
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October 2004
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Wahroonga
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June 2003
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Re: KE30. 13b bp? sr20det? 3t-gteu?
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Tue, 16 November 2004 00:32
 
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before going the SR20 i would go the 3sgte, Forget about the 13b as it would be alot of work. I would say go the 3tgte.
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adelaide, SA
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October 2004
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Re: KE30. 13b bp? sr20det? 3t-gteu?
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Tue, 16 November 2004 00:34
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thats what i was thinking as it will just bolt in, then upgrade fuel system, and its "driveable" then drivekine breaks etc.
can anyone point me in directions ov any ov these conversions done before?
shane
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May 2002
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Re: KE30. 13b bp? sr20det? 3t-gteu?
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Tue, 16 November 2004 00:42
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Each setup you have mentioned has it's own merits.
Firstly though the BP 13B: I have a friend with a very nice RX2 with a 13B Bridge Port, it's pretty quick, but he started thinking 13B turbo pretty soon after getting it in because you get used to the power and want more (his makes around 105rwkw). My car anhialates his in a straight line race and mine uses a shite load less fuel driving around too. Cool sound from the rotor though and quite nice to drive.
The SR20DET is an option I like, good power, lots of parts, easily avaialable etc etc. I have friends with SR20DET silvias and they go quite well, in the weight of the corolla the on road performance would be even greater. A bit of work to get the engine and trans in your car, not too hard though.
The 4AGTE or ZE is another good option, I have the 4AGTE in a KE25 and love it. It makes good power, it's tough as nails, sounds good, and fits in easily (engine mount mods will be needed though).
The 3TGTE, I don't have any experiences with these.
You can't go too wrong with any of your choices, they will all be fun, just depends on what you want form the car in the end.....
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Canberra, ACT
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September 2002
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Re: KE30. 13b bp? sr20det? 3t-gteu?
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Tue, 16 November 2004 07:14
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I'm told* that the 3T-GTE won't bolt up to NA 2T/3T mounts as it wasn't setup the same
* by a guy who had one in a KE25
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Ballarat
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May 2002
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Re: KE30. 13b bp? sr20det? 3t-gteu?
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Wed, 17 November 2004 00:28
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but if it didn't, you could always keep the block and swap the internals, head and manifolds... couldn't you?
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Canberra, ACT
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September 2002
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nowra
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October 2004
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Re: KE30. 13b bp? sr20det? 3t-gteu?
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Wed, 17 November 2004 10:08
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me @ my son put in a 3tgteu into a 79ke 55 fastback running a hiflow fule pump blitz bov turbo exuast 2.5 to 3inch @ intercooler good 4 560hp had a run with a super charged 4a--- in a 35 coupe and it could not get any where near us we ran it at 8psi before the intercooler whent in now it has run at 26psi 4 about 2miutes 2 c what would happen happy 2 say didnt miss a beat saddley it had a collision with a pole now sits wating 4 a transplate as far as im concerned the 3t was a good by not that many would agree @havent had any problems with it id recomend it
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Ballarat
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May 2002
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Re: KE30. 13b bp? sr20det? 3t-gteu?
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Wed, 17 November 2004 13:24
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| indigoid wrote on Wed, 17 November 2004 20:07 |
Don't think so, at least not if you're keeping the stock inlet manifold and exhaust headers
edit: my posts in this thread are based on what others told me ages ago - don't accept them as gospel. However it would be wise to do some measuring before spending anything if you are not in the mood for making new mounts!
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I think you misunderstood what I said (or i'm mis-understanding what you're saying  ).
I was suggesting keeping the standard 3t block (with associated engine mounts), then swap in the head and internals from a 3t-gteu, and put the manifolds on.
why would you want to keep the stock inlet manifold and exhaust headers - then you'd be losing the turbo and injection.
My question is - will the gteu head bolt onto the standard 3t block?
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Castle Hill
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December 2002
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Re: KE30. 13b bp? sr20det? 3t-gteu?
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Wed, 17 November 2004 15:21
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Hey slightly off topic but if you had the money to spend what do people think -
13bt or sr20det
which is easier / better / quicker if you can afford 'pretty good' turbo(s), cooler and gearbox?
I thought it was the rotor's that got the really quick quater miles. But then there's the myth that all rotor's f_ up all the time and cost endless cash to keep rebuilding...
Anyway, my 2 cents... I would guess the 3t and the 3t gteu would share a few parts in common, like the 2t and 2tgeu have a few bits in common I thought... but I've never tried any of these conversions before so.. good luck with it!
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Tasmania
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May 2002
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Re: KE30. 13b bp? sr20det? 3t-gteu?
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Thu, 18 November 2004 01:31
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The 3T-GTE block is almost the same at a standard 3T block, no need to change. The issue with fitting a 3T-GTE in where a 2T-G or 3T once was, is the engine mounts are a bit different. The left engine mount is different because the oil return from the turbo goes through it from memory and is offset differently. Im sure its no big drama. Anyone with all the bits in front of them could come up with a easy solution I'm sure. 3T-GTEU would be a good motor, and I have seen a T50 survive behind one for a while. Although you would be planing to use a W55 series gearbox, which would require a modifyed gearbox crossmember and tailshaft, but nothing out of the ordinary.
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