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westlife
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AW11 3SGTE Fri, 28 May 2004 16:14 Go to next message
Hey guys !

Just wondering if this conversion can be done ? I figure I would be using a half cut from an SW20 MR2 but I was wondering what modifications I would have to go through to complete this conversion.Also which gearbox would I use ? Any assistance would be greatly appreciated Very Happy
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Re: AW11 3SGTE Fri, 28 May 2004 16:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Give it another couple of weeks & joshstix should have his all finished & on the road, I'm sure he'll have plenty of pics & good information on it.
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Re: AW11 3SGTE Fri, 28 May 2004 22:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
http://www2.msstate.edu/~sgn1/MR2/mod/jv.htm

http://www.mk1point5.com/Engine.htm

just a couple i had on my favourites list.. Smile

there are plenty more out there.
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Re: AW11 3SGTE Fri, 28 May 2004 22:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i helped out on one about 3 years ago. it's not too dificult to do.
turbo box is basically the same unit as the s/c one - so only really the fornt engine mount to mod. need to remove the tvis part of hte inlet manifold though

my aw11 runs a n/a 3sge & s series gearbox. a tad more work.

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Re: AW11 3SGTE Sat, 29 May 2004 05:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
It's definately possible. As soon as a couple of parts turn up from Japan for mine I'll start posting up some pics of it done.

Mine is a gen3 3SGTE with a ST205 water to air intercooler. Should be fairly interesting once it gets going.

You can use the SW20 gearbox with the turbo drive shafts and the ST165/ST185/AW11SC outer CV joints. Or if you've got access you can use 2 passenger side AW11 supercharged shafts.

[Updated on: Sat, 29 May 2004 05:49]

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Re: AW11 3SGTE Sat, 29 May 2004 07:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i vaguely recall someone on the megasquirt forum doing this?

Was a UK car. the guy was doing nearly all of the work himself - including respray and mount fabrication.

he put the intercooler in the microboot to open up the engine bay - required some custom piping, thermo fan and extra ducting - but appeared to work.

i'll try to dredge up a link...
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Re: AW11 3SGTE Sat, 29 May 2004 07:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
you mean this one?

http://www.mr2mk1club.com/turbo.html
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Re: AW11 3SGTE Sat, 29 May 2004 10:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
yup! - and i read he's now doing the V6 camry engine into another AW11 Wink

do all the 3S-GTE installs end up with the intercooler in the boot?
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Re: AW11 3SGTE Sat, 29 May 2004 10:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
damn what a nice long artical
that guy is mad
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Re: AW11 3SGTE Sun, 30 May 2004 07:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Also check out the international mr2 board, SHITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTLOADS of info on there!!!!. (url below)

http://www.board.mr2faq.com/


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Re: AW11 3SGTE Mon, 31 May 2004 02:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
The only AW11 3S-GTE conversion I have seen with the intercooler in the boot are in the UK.

Others I've seen have had the intercooler in the standard AW11 SC position above the gearbox, the SW20 position in the side vent, down low in front of the gearbox with a duct.
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Re: AW11 3SGTE Mon, 31 May 2004 08:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
http://nz.msnusers.com/Bradsmk15/shoebox.msnw

Note the IC At the bottom rear of the car Shocked

Its also a Gen3 3SGTE, on a street tune (Andre (from www.speedtech.co.nz) tuned it from seat of pants because it didnt fit the on dyno) he managed a 13.24 on his first ever 1/4 mile.

Him and his dad built it in there garage, its one nasty car to say the least Smile

Edit: If i remember rightly, one of the US MR2 forums has full size stensiles for the engine mounts, if your really keen.

[Updated on: Mon, 31 May 2004 08:53]

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Re: AW11 3SGTE Mon, 31 May 2004 11:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
awesome... http://www.kirupa.com/forums/smileys_files/apple.gif
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Re: AW11 3SGTE Mon, 31 May 2004 13:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mr2 owners club has a forum section on these, they call them mk1.5

the link is http://www.mr2oc.com but the site seems to be down atm, shud be abck up ina few hours

[Updated on: Mon, 31 May 2004 13:36]

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Re: AW11 3SGTE Wed, 02 June 2004 00:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Daemon wrote on Mon, 31 May 2004 18:51

http://nz.msnusers.com/Bradsmk15/shoebox.msnw

Note the IC At the bottom rear of the car Shocked

Its also a Gen3 3SGTE, on a street tune (Andre (from www.speedtech.co.nz) tuned it from seat of pants because it didnt fit the on dyno) he managed a 13.24 on his first ever 1/4 mile.

Him and his dad built it in there garage, its one nasty car to say the least Smile

Edit: If i remember rightly, one of the US MR2 forums has full size stensiles for the engine mounts, if your really keen.


Hey,Thats my car! Daemon, Where u from? Dont know where u got the bit about my dad. I built that thing up 100% myself. Racing at taupo on monday too. Sweet.
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Re: AW11 3SGTE Wed, 02 June 2004 10:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
haha.
chinese whispers.

Great car mate! awesome job. I cant even begin to imagine pulling off that conversion
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Re: AW11 3SGTE Thu, 03 June 2004 08:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Its Myxomatosis Razz

Sorry, thought your father helped you, my mis-understanding Smile
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Re: AW11 3SGTE Tue, 23 November 2004 13:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
this thread rocks, thank you all for being so imformative!
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Re: AW11 3SGTE Tue, 23 November 2004 22:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Starting the fun and games myself Smiley =

http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~mk15/images/IMGP1078_800.jpg
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Re: AW11 3SGTE Tue, 23 November 2004 23:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
if thats your shed i am sooooo freaking jealous right now... Shocked
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Re: AW11 3SGTE Tue, 23 November 2004 23:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
how much is the handling of the AW11 affected with the added weight over the back wheels from the 3SGTE or the camry V6???
one would presume it would suffer somewhat. . . ???
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Re: AW11 3SGTE Wed, 24 November 2004 00:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mine handles better now than it ever has.

I'm not too sure why this is. The engine isn't all that much heavier than the 4A, plu I moved the battery to the front, dumped the battery and have a water heat exchanger mounted up front so the weight ballance would be pretty close to the same or slightly better than standard.

It feels far more planted though and is less nervous. It also can oversteer far more controllably. I think these characteristics are due to the fact that it now has torque and can be driven faster than it was with the 4A with far less effort in terms of wringing the engines neck and rowing through the gears.

I wouldn't be surprised if the MZ is lighter than a 4A. They're a really light engine.
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Re: AW11 3SGTE Wed, 24 November 2004 00:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Weren't the US guys that did the V6 conversion want to make it TT or supercharged as well ?

I wonder what would be better, a AW11 + 3S-GTE or SW20 with a boosted 1MZ-FE ?

MB
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Re: AW11 3SGTE Wed, 24 November 2004 00:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
What Josh said Smiley =

I think the US boys claim there's about 20 pounds differents between a 4agze and a 3sgte (both with accessories). So I suppose there'd be 20-30 kgs difference between a 4age and a 3sgte. Really not that much Smiley =.

Feral: not my shed, my gf parents panel beating shop. But that's all my mess as of about 1am Sunday morning when we brought the 3s in from out the back to start having a bit of a play.

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Re: AW11 3SGTE Wed, 24 November 2004 00:36 Go to previous message
bbaacchhyy wrote on Wed, 24 November 2004 11:29

I wonder what would be better, a AW11 + 3S-GTE or SW20 with a boosted 1MZ-FE ?


It all depends on how you define better. The AW11 is a far more involving and enjoyable driving experience that the SW20. It's a better handler and a lot lighter than the SW20. The SW20 was designed to be somewhat more "soft" in all of the chassis dynamics, no I'm not talking springs and shocks but the actual dynamic responses of the chassis.

Having said that I'd have no problem what so ever having a 1MZ powered SW20 for a cruiser. It would be a very relaxed yet still enjoyable way to cover large amounts of ground.

Ther is at least one supercharged 1MZ AW11 out there and the VZ powered AW11 is planned to be turbo. I know there are at least a few supercharged 1MZ powered SW20's as well.
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