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1UZFE in a RA28 Wed, 01 December 2004 12:58 Go to next message
well... i've been thinking of the 1ggte conversion for some time, but i kinda want something different... and since this is my "dream" car, i'd like the V8, i wanted the 1UZ long before i ever got the car, but i decided that it was unfeasable 'cause of initial cost... but i saw half cut costs in a mag, and they weren't that much more then 1ggte... just a grand or so... still not cheap, but not impossible, i saw in the swap guide that a 1uzfe will fit... but how much work is it... just all out, not compared to the 1ggte, i know that's not that hard...

how heavy is the ra28 standard? is it above the 1100kg mark? 'cause if it isn't then is it still legal to make it say... 1101Kg so i can fit the V8? or do they look at weight off the factory floor when doing engineering certs?

secondly, scissor door conversions... does anyone know of any? 'cause seen a ta23 i think with them... i SOO want them, if i can't find them, one day i'll look at making my own...
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Re: 1UZFE in a RA28 Wed, 01 December 2004 13:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Im also considering a 1UZ into a RA28 atm.

From what ive worked out:
- Needs all new engine mounts and gearbox mounts
- Needs custom flywheel and bellhousing to fit a manual box
- Will need bigger rear diff (Hilux?) and probably a custom one piece tailshaft.
- Obviously needs big brake upgrades to pass rego




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Re: 1UZFE in a RA28 Wed, 01 December 2004 14:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
no offense dude, but if that's all you've worked out, you've got a long way to go... what about fuel, ecu? i know those are stadard things in any carby to efi conversion, but apparantly the 1UZ has more then a few problems running with out the autobox, on the stock ecu... you'd have to upgrade the suspension, brakes and diff too... clutch, flywheel, g'box... come to think about it... just about every moving part save for the window winders... i'm really looking for an excuse to exclude the 1UZ from my list of maybes... like ecu will cost both my kidneys to get working properly, or, bellhousing is a bitch, need to modify g'box tunnel to fit it in... something BIG... i know the 1ggte is reasonably easy... got a mate with a RA23 and a 1ggte, goes like slippery shit of a shiney shovel... bit laggy, but that's fixable...
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Re: 1UZFE in a RA28 Wed, 01 December 2004 14:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
bah.. again, people need to do a search on these forums before posting....

1uz can run fine with manual and stock ecu... best halfcut to use is a crown uzs131 as it came with a seperate computer to control the auto box....

although i havent used his services yet, i still recommend "sideshow" for wiring as he's done quite a number of 1uz manual's with stock ecu....
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Re: 1UZFE in a RA28 Wed, 01 December 2004 14:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i searched... where do you think i heard that the 1uz has problems with the ECU... but thanks for clearing that up... so i can cross the ECU off my list of possible major hiccups, how about bellhousing for the manual g'box, someone suggested the supra g'box, not sure which model (he had it in a AE86), can you get bolt on bell housings or will they all take modifying? if so, just how much work is involved?
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Re: 1UZFE in a RA28 Wed, 01 December 2004 14:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Contact "1UZ FTE" on these forums as he has a turbo 1UZ in a TA22, and it used to be TT.

It is a sweet car and he is doing a bit of rebuilding at the moment.
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Re: 1UZFE in a RA28 Wed, 01 December 2004 20:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
can you even register it? would it be legal?
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Re: 1UZFE in a RA28 Wed, 01 December 2004 21:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Awhile ago someone purchased my original 3SGTE (ST185) flywheel to use in a manual 1UZFE conversion. He was saying it bolts up to the crank perfectly.

Anyway just might help with the manual conversion.

I can vouch for sideshow's wiring services, very good guy!

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Re: 1UZFE in a RA28 Wed, 01 December 2004 21:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
hickoz_bro wrote on Thu, 02 December 2004 01:06

no offense dude, but if that's all you've worked out, you've got a long way to go...


xnay on the condescensionay there chet
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Re: 1UZFE in a RA28 Wed, 01 December 2004 23:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I haven't measured it up but you may have problems with clearance on the steering box. At best it may mean custom exhaust manifold and at worst a rack-n-pinion conversion. Other than that it should be like a 1G conversion but with no intercooler. Pete (HKSPete on these forums) did a manual 1UZ in his MA70. Talk to him regarding bellhousings and flywheels if you want three pedals.
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Re: 1UZFE in a RA28 Wed, 01 December 2004 23:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
pete got his bellhousing from Dellow automotive in sydney... another option is CRS down in victoria... both places specialise in bellhousing's and adaptor plates.

you can get off the shelf kits for w55-58 boxes... pete used the bellhousing for the turbo supra r154 5spd.

i'll be using a v160 6spd in my conversion, but the bellhousing is integrated into the box, so i'll have to make do with a custom adaptor plate.
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Re: 1UZFE in a RA28 Thu, 02 December 2004 00:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
TurboRA28 wrote on Thu, 02 December 2004 05:13

Awhile ago someone purchased my original 3SGTE (ST185) flywheel to use in a manual 1UZFE conversion. He was saying it bolts up to the crank perfectly.


Ohhh!


[walks off to the shed to grab the many 3SGTE flywheels and 1 UZFE's in there]
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Re: 1UZFE in a RA28 Thu, 02 December 2004 01:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
just found that the 1uz puts out around 200kw stock... is that right? that's pretty noice Evil or Very Mad

and now for the big one... how much more would it cost to drop a 1uz in, compared to the 1ggte?

a) double the price
b) shit loads
c) if you have to ask you can't afford it
d) <insert Dr Evil voice over here> "one MILLION dollars"
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Re: 1UZFE in a RA28 Thu, 02 December 2004 01:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
If you are doing both conversion properly, here are some general differences.

The 1uz will cost about $2000 to go manual.
The 1gg will most likely come manual. (just new clutch $500)

The 1uz will require a rack and pinion conversion ($500???)
The 1gg will require intercooler and piping ($700???)

The 1uz will cost more for a front cut.

Thats the main differences (Thats all I can think of)

Everything else you do to one, needs to be done to the other.
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Re: 1UZFE in a RA28 Thu, 02 December 2004 01:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
but to get the thing on the road and registered, the engineers are gonna be more strict with brakes, suspension and chassis mods if i use the V8 where as with a 6cyl, they might go a bit easy.... i don't know... i'm looking for cheap and easy... maybe the 1g is the ticket for now...



and in reply to the fella that asked if it's legal, apparantly if your car is under 1100kg you can go 2.5times the vehicle mass in cubic capacity... ie upto 2750cc but if your car is over 1100kg then you can go to 4 times vehicle mass... ie 4400cc (for starters). Of course theres more to it then that... but that's the basics, or so i'm lead to believe
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Re: 1UZFE in a RA28 Thu, 02 December 2004 01:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
And engineer is not gonna be any lighter on you for installing a twin turbo 6, over an NA V8.

Both will require the same mods.

And you'd be crazy to do either, without at least SOME braking power increases.
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Re: 1UZFE in a RA28 Thu, 02 December 2004 01:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ahhh for sure... i've got no intentions of leaving brakes stock... they're pretty weak even with the exceptional power ( Laughing ) of a REALLY worn out 18R-C haha... what a joke, what's a good mod for the front brakes? i heard somewhere the pug 406 ones are okay... any other opinions?
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Re: 1UZFE in a RA28 Thu, 02 December 2004 04:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Well fueling changes are assumed.... no problems there.
ECU and loom problems i can fix myself (i hope).

Steering box clearance problems sounds nasty... although it would be very nice to change to R&P (would what you've done Joel be hard to get past engineering?).

Then there might also be sump problems...

A W58 would take the power right? No need for the larger R154?

Lots more to think about.

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Re: 1UZFE in a RA28 Thu, 02 December 2004 05:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
My r&p isn't engineered yet, but i've discussed it with an engineer and he cannot see any problems with what i've done. I'll have it over to him in the new year to have it inspected.

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Re: 1UZFE in a RA28 Thu, 02 December 2004 05:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
So how much do RA28 weigh?

Can you register the bastard after you go the 1UZ route?
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Re: 1UZFE in a RA28 Thu, 02 December 2004 06:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I have seen a tare weight for a RA28 as 1040kg.

I would not recommend trying build the car without linking up with an engineer if you are serious in wanting to road register the thing.
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Re: 1UZFE in a RA28 Thu, 02 December 2004 06:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gold28 wrote on Thu, 02 December 2004 10:24

Pete (HKSPete on these forums) did a manual 1UZ in his MA70. Talk to him regarding bellhousings and flywheels if you want three pedals.


I'm not HKSPete anymore Tony Smile


Theres a lot of info on my site, and my thoughts on Dellow Automotive.

If you want to put a W57 or W58 'box behind the 1uz it should be alright in a lighter car, and we all should know it wouldn't be hard to put it in a RA28 (hope theres no need to point out the obvious). You can get a bellhousing kit from Castlemain Rod Shop which will include flywheel/clutch/bellhousing/etc for around $500 I think.

If you're going W57/58 then you *shouldn't* need to change gearbox mounts, or driveshaft. And diff you can do when you snap the 1st one, which will depend on your driving.
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Re: 1UZFE in a RA28 Thu, 02 December 2004 06:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ra23celica wrote on Thu, 02 December 2004 17:32

I would not recommend trying build the car without linking up with an engineer if you are serious in wanting to road register the thing.


Can we make this the Toymods motto???
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Re: 1UZFE in a RA28 Thu, 02 December 2004 06:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
SupraPete wrote on Thu, 02 December 2004 14:37

You can get a bellhousing kit from Castlemain Rod Shop which will include flywheel/clutch/bellhousing/etc for around $500 I think.


CRS Kit is about $1300, but that only includes a 1500-1800lb clutch, and the flywheel is something like 12-14kg.

Not the best option.
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Re: 1UZFE in a RA28 Thu, 02 December 2004 06:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
SupraPete wrote on Thu, 02 December 2004 17:37


If you're going W57/58 then you *shouldn't* need to change gearbox mounts, or driveshaft. And diff you can do when you snap the 1st one, which will depend on your driving.



You *will* need to modify the original RA28 g/box x/member to mount the W57/8 box. It needs to be extended forward from the leading edge and two new holes drilled in it at the same spacing as the existing 2 sets of holes. RA28 tailshaft from there is fine.

If you weld, for example, two 3 mm thick steel 'finger' plates or tab's to this g/box mount bracket to extend it forward you will lower the tailshaft slightly and change its angle of inclination. To fix this you weld a 3mm thick plate inside the mount bracket to push the g/box back up the same amount and preserve the angle of rotation. Slightly longer mounting bolts are required here too, to account for the now thicker bracket.

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Re: 1UZFE in a RA28 Thu, 02 December 2004 06:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
SupraPete wrote on Thu, 02 December 2004 17:39

ra23celica wrote on Thu, 02 December 2004 17:32

I would not recommend trying build the car without linking up with an engineer if you are serious in wanting to road register the thing.


Can we make this the Toymods motto???



Indeed we should. Unblievable how many ask the questions here first.

So it is either make it the Toymods motto, OR make Toymods forums the first forums to be included in the NSW engineers signatory (we have enough experts to allow this to happen).
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Re: 1UZFE in a RA28 Thu, 02 December 2004 10:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
SupraPete wrote on Thu, 02 December 2004 17:07


If you're going W57/58 then you *shouldn't* need to change gearbox mounts, or driveshaft. And diff you can do when you snap the 1st one, which will depend on your driving.



Thats assuming you would mount the 1UZ in the position the W57/W58 would put it in.

If i do this conversion, i would mount the 1UZ as far back as possible and make a new gbox mount.
Not much extra work for a possible good improvment in car handling.
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Re: 1UZFE in a RA28 Thu, 02 December 2004 12:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
okay, so lets see... we can use the stock ecu, can get hold of bellhousings, g'boxes (how much roughly?). how much would the engine xmember need to be modified? and i think i missed out the bit about the steering... if i didn't what's been done there?

next question, what would a decent cond 1uz with loom cost? since we'd use a different g'box and flywheel clutch etc... would we need anything else? or is that pretty much it? fuelling obviously, and exhaust...

how much do engineers look toward things like brakes, will they want a complete set of discs? cross drilled ceramic composite discs with 6pot callipers, and the master cyclinder from a mack? or just upgraded front discs and callipers? what about things like diffs? is that an issue?
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Re: 1UZFE in a RA28 Thu, 02 December 2004 13:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
M.W.P. wrote on Thu, 02 December 2004 18:32

Thats assuming you would mount the 1UZ in the position the W57/W58 would put it in.

If i do this conversion, i would mount the 1UZ as far back as possible and make a new gbox mount.
Not much extra work for a possible good improvment in car handling.

You'd think that would be the case wouldn't you.

But I had to move my gbox FORWARD an inch to fit the motor in without modding the sump or the crossmember.

I'd say you'd be in a similar position with most front sump 1UZ conversion
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Re: 1UZFE in a RA28 Thu, 02 December 2004 14:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
well see there's another decision, do you wanna make the job easy, ie mounting things where it'll take least work, or do you want the best possible results, at the sacrifice of time, money and effort? ideally i want the latter... but a compromise needs to be made.
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Re: 1UZFE in a RA28 Thu, 02 December 2004 14:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
CrUZsida wrote on Thu, 02 December 2004 23:35


But I had to move my gbox FORWARD an inch to fit the motor in without modding the sump or the crossmember.

I'd say you'd be in a similar position with most front sump 1UZ conversion


Ah, youve brought up somthing i was going to ask about.
What sump configs does the 1UZ come in?

Front sump would be ok if using a TA23 xmember, but i imagine it would then foul the sway-bar.
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Re: 1UZFE in a RA28 Thu, 02 December 2004 14:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
hickoz_bro wrote on Thu, 02 December 2004 22:00

well see there's another decision, do you wanna make the job easy, ie mounting things where it'll take least work, or do you want the best possible results, at the sacrifice of time, money and effort? ideally i want the latter... but a compromise needs to be made.

Where it will take the least work.
It will be MUCH easy to engineer.
Ideally you want to do the whole conversion without taking an angle grinder to the car at all.

If you want the best possible results, build 2 cars, one for the road, and one dedicated unlicensed track car.

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Ah, youve brought up somthing i was going to ask about.
What sump configs does the 1UZ come in?

Front sump would be ok if using a TA23 xmember, but i imagine it would then foul the sway-bar.

Front, mid and rear.
If a 1GGTE can fit in there without swaybar mods (as I think it does), then the 1UZ will fit.
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Re: 1UZFE in a RA28 Fri, 03 December 2004 01:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dood,

I think its an excellent conversion, had thoughts of doing it about 10 years ago but funds did not permit.

Take me for a spin when its complete !!

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Re: 1UZFE in a RA28 Thu, 09 December 2004 12:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
haha mate.... your on... it's gonna be a long time down the track though... i'm gonna start doing suspension bits up soon... then will be wheels, then front brakes, then rear diff and disc brakes... then after about 2000yrs, i should have the dough to do the engine, and g'box... somewhere in there i've gotta tidy up the interior, make it look half decent... once all that's done, i can get to work on the body... scissor doors, targa top, removable lid, flat loading bay, flared rear arches, bigger bonnet bulge, and paint... then after all that, i'll be free for rides... Very Happy

okay... so i'll book you in for... 19th dec.... 2020?



now for another question... if i wanted a tough, LSD, with discs, that would fit under the ra28 with minimun trouble, where would i look?

and yet another... i asked someone about getting door rubbers, etc... they gave me a link to a site in melbourne i think, was awesome, they had all the rubbers, and stuff like that... but i can't find the link... i haven't searched the forums yet, but if someone could beat me to it, i'd appreciate it...
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Re: 1UZFE in a RA28 Thu, 09 December 2004 21:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Great ! Book me in !!!

It will be a sweet ride.

It sounds like you have heaps of mods planned.

As far as diffs go it depends on how much power you want to end up with. But to keep the rear end in keeping with the rest of the mods why not go for a complete IRS from a Supra or something like that.

I had a TA 22 about 15 years ago and got some window and door seals for it back then, i think it was called Jacksons or Pter Jacksons rubbers in Sydney, dont know if they still exist, but new rubbers made a huuuuge difference, gave it a bit of a new car feel.

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Re: 1UZFE in a RA28 Thu, 09 December 2004 23:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Try rare spares for rubbers or scotts old rubber. I had a tuff lsd with rear discs for sale that would fit an ra28. I also do remember reading once an article which followed the installation of a 1g (front sump) into a ra28, and this did require a modification of the sway bar. Dunno if this helps but it might give you an indication on how far foward the sump can actually be in these cars.

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Re: 1UZFE in a RA28 Fri, 10 December 2004 00:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
get a corona mark 2 diff, F312 series(3.91:1). you can get lsd's out of 4runners for it, you'll have to weld the ra28's mounting points on the diff, it's about 30mm wider drum to drum. apparently you might be able to get disc setup from a rt142 avante.
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Re: 1UZFE in a RA28 Fri, 10 December 2004 00:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i found that rubber place... was called spectrum rubber...

as for the diff, i'm not planning on putting 900Kw through it... but i think IF i go with the 1UZ, then 300 will probably be MAXIMUM that's if i don't leave it at the stock 200... i don't know.. see how it grabs me when/if the time comes... but a fully indepenant rear sounds good... but also sounds like a shit load of work... what i really want, is something that'll make it handle like an indy car, but be as easy and cheap to install as the stock diff... the closer to that, the better...

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Re: 1UZFE in a RA28 Sat, 11 December 2004 23:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
hickoz_bro wrote on Fri, 10 December 2004 11:46

what i really want, is something that'll make it handle like an indy car, but be as easy and cheap to install as the stock diff... the closer to that, the better...



Laughing you funny Laughing

A well set up IRS would be a huge improvement over any live axle, particularly in a fairly light celica. Jump in any MA61 or later supra and take it for a spin and you will see what I mean. It ain't by any streatch of the imagination gonna be cheap and easy though.

If it is gonna be a daily driver then just stick with a live axle, F, G, volvo, Borg Warner, etc. If it is gonna be a drag racer than think about a ladder bar set up for a Hilux diff. If it is gonna be a track car then maybe think about an IRS but then you might have problms qualifying with appropriate category rules. If it is gonna be a show car then do whatever you want.
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Re: 1UZFE in a RA28 Sun, 12 December 2004 11:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i'd like to so some track work... but i don't know that i'd go all out for it... just the odd track day, time trials etc... don't suppose anyone else has tried an IRS RA28? 'cause i'm interested... i like the idea of IRS... i was thinking of getting a 260Z instead of my celica, but it was SHIT LOADS cheaper...
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Re: 1UZFE in a RA28 Tue, 25 January 2005 06:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ill dredge this thread up once again.

Im off to see an engineer about getting the OK for a 1UZ into my RA28, and what other things would need to be done (brakes, etc).

Im going to try for:

I also called CRS... their Toyota V8 -> W58 kit is $1350.
Includes bellhousing, flywheel, clutch slave, etc... everything needed to bolt them together.

Im thinking ill use a TA23 engine xmember, and a mid or front 1UZ sump but if neither of those fit, ill make a custom sump.

Not quite sure about the engine interfearing with the steering box.
If its the exst manifold that fouls it, ill get extractors made.
Altho, R&P would be nice.

Brakes, ill do the hilux/pug/corona if the engineer ok's it for the 1UZ.

Rear diff i want to leave stock until after the cars rego'ed.
Try and save on possible engineering complications.

Anything ive missed?

If it all works out as being too difficult, or too costly, ill drop back to a 1G ;(
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Re: 1UZFE in a RA28 Tue, 25 January 2005 06:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
the 1uzfe isnt too wide for an ra28?
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Re: 1UZFE in a RA28 Tue, 25 January 2005 07:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
V8_MA61 wrote on Tue, 25 January 2005 17:52

the 1uzfe isnt too wide for an ra28?


if it fits in a ta22 with twin turbos i dont think so Very Happy
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Re: 1UZFE in a RA28 Tue, 25 January 2005 09:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I also called CRS... their Toyota V8 -> W58 kit is $1350.
Includes bellhousing, flywheel, clutch slave, etc... everything needed to bolt them together.

Don't get the CRS flywheel, or clutch.
The clutch they offer isn't strong enough.
Last I heard they offered an 1100lbs clutch.
Mine is 2200lbs, and I'd prefer it to be stronger.
And from memory their flywheel is about 14kg, but they may have changed. (It was over a year ago I bought all this)
Mine is either 7.5kg or 8.5kg
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Not quite sure about the engine interfearing with the steering box.
If its the exst manifold that fouls it, ill get extractors made.
Altho, R&P would be nice.

I'm pretty R&P will be necessary, but I don't own an RA, so I will stand corrected on that.
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Anything ive missed?

EFI conversion. maybe battery relocation?
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If it all works out as being too difficult, or too costly, ill drop back to a 1G ;(

It will be difficult, and costly, and involve lots of wiring, but the rewards will be greater than a 1G

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Re: 1UZFE in a RA28 Tue, 25 January 2005 12:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
CrUZsida wrote on Tue, 25 January 2005 20:01

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I also called CRS... their Toyota V8 -> W58 kit is $1350.
Includes bellhousing, flywheel, clutch slave, etc... everything needed to bolt them together.

Don't get the CRS flywheel, or clutch.
The clutch they offer isn't strong enough.
Last I heard they offered an 1100lbs clutch.
Mine is 2200lbs, and I'd prefer it to be stronger.
And from memory their flywheel is about 14kg, but they may have changed. (It was over a year ago I bought all this)
Mine is either 7.5kg or 8.5kg


Thanks, ill check up on that.
If the flywheel is still that heavy, what would you sugest?
A custom flywheel, or is there someone else making better versions?

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Quote:

Anything ive missed?

EFI conversion. maybe battery relocation?
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If it all works out as being too difficult, or too costly, ill drop back to a 1G ;(

It will be difficult, and costly, and involve lots of wiring, but the rewards will be greater than a 1G


Battery is already in the boot, and EFI conversion stuff is assumed.
Wiring i should be able to do myself.

The only thing im really hoping to avoid doing is R&P.
Thats the kind of thing i can see stretching out the time itll take to get the car on the road.

Thanks.

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Re: 1UZFE in a RA28 Tue, 25 January 2005 13:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Not quite sure about the engine interfearing with the steering box.
If its the exst manifold that fouls it, ill get extractors made.
Altho, R&P would be nice.

I'm pretty R&P will be necessary, but I don't own an RA, so I will stand corrected on that.



Quite sure you'd need R&P. Even a skinny little windsor v8 doesnt' leave much room to the steering box. From my measurements a 1UZ won't even fit extractors around/passed it (somebody will confirm this...).

Engineer required subframe connectors, crossmember bracing and strut tower bracing to be happy with mine.Although this was a while ago
Wanted upgraded discs on the front but didn't care about the rear brakes or diff, but then Vicroads inspection guy wouldn't accept it without an upgraded diff.

A note about my experience with dellow for gearbox conversions: I purchased an r154 and bellhousing and clutch ass to suit a Chrysler V8. Motor made 420hp at f/w. Initially had clutch problems (valiants use a weird linkage setup), after lots of headaches and gearbox in and out several(*heaps) times, and several different clutch setups, it came down to the dellow clutch fork. Very poor quality casting, didn't locate properly and was basically trash with a shiny coating. Throwout bearings got noisy and showed blueing (from overheating) each time with very little use. Gearbox purchased as reco'd unit had noticable bearing grumble every time after the car was run hard. All this in less than 2000kms of use. And in my experience the after sales support matched the product I was supplied with.
But perhaps other ppl have had better experiences.

From sounds of things best to get the bellhousing from CRS and a clutch and flywheel from elsewhere
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Re: 1UZFE in a RA28 Tue, 25 January 2005 13:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
MWP: i think you have missed the cam work mentioned elsewhere.

With the steering issue, i wonder how difficult it woudl be to fit the AE86/AE71 R&P in the RA28. They are the same track width, and the xmember shoudl be reasonably similar. Ill have one spare when i move down to Adelaide so i can bring it around to have a peek if you want.
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Re: 1UZFE in a RA28 Tue, 25 January 2005 14:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
takai wrote on Tue, 25 January 2005 23:20

With the steering issue, i wonder how difficult it woudl be to fit the AE86/AE71 R&P in the RA28.

There was a giant thread on this not too long ago. The short answer is its far more difficult than it looks, that is if you don't want totally screwed steering geometry.
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Re: 1UZFE in a RA28 Tue, 25 January 2005 15:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
M.W.P. wrote on Tue, 25 January 2005 20:53

If the flywheel is still that heavy, what would you sugest?
A custom flywheel, or is there someone else making better versions?

Ok, just checked my archives.
RodShop flywheel was 9kg. (as of 22 Sept 2003)
It must have been the carbontech one that was 14kg.

Mine is between 8 and 8.5kg (8kg without ring gear)
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Re: 1UZFE in a RA28 Tue, 25 January 2005 21:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
castlemasine rod shop sell

bellhousing clutch flywheel thrust bearing thrust bearing holder slave etc for 1200 or so

for 2000 you get all of above plus a checked over gbox to suit

they sell sumps for 600 too

i used their sumps in my conversion but then the swaybar hit the sump

so now i need a custom sway bar

save atleast 10000 for the conversion just to be safe

a crown 1uz has tight fitting headers

if u get the other 1uzs the headers sticj out abit more so they might hit
so u might need custom headers thats another 1000

if i were you id sit down and do a checklist

1500 engine
500 efi fuel system
2000 for brakes
1200 bellhousing clutch etc
1000 exhaust
1000 for headers if needed
500 radiator and fans
300 tailshaft
steering maybe 500
sump if needed 600

1000 for litlle shit you forget about

500 for engineers

up to 3000 if you pay someone to do it for you


in the end a 1gg might be quicker than 1uz
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Re: 1UZFE in a RA28 Wed, 26 January 2005 11:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
damn man... good work, your lucky to still be able to consider it... my hopes have slipped back about 5yrs or until i win the lotto... which ever happens first Razz i'm looking at sticking a 22r in for the moment, 'cause we have one at home, and well the 18r in it atm sucks... it sucks fuel, oil, everything... g'box is dyeing... and well... it's no fun to drive anymore..

only thing i can comment on RE your machine is the diff... it's gonna take ONE HELL of an effort to keep the right foot from pinning the throttle to the floor... and the stock diff won't like that much... but i say go for gold... i wanna know how it turns out, keep us posted... good luck

over and out
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Re: 1UZFE in a RA28 Thu, 27 January 2005 11:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I had a long chat with the engineer today... its all good if i want to go ahead Smile

The three difficult/time-consuming things that need to be done are:
- R&P Steering
- 5 stud hubs all round
- Chassis strengthening

Ive got lots of research to do...

Hrm, i should make a "Members Rides" thread.

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Re: 1UZFE in a RA28 Thu, 27 January 2005 12:53 Go to previous message
Do you NEED to do 5stud conversion? or do you WANT to do 5stud conversion?

If its the first, try another engineer.
It shouldn't be a requirement.
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