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Melbourne, Victoria
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December 2004
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3S-FE and 3S-GEs
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Fri, 03 December 2004 07:42
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Hi, I don't know if this is where I post or whatever, but I just joined this forum just wondering...what is the difference between the 3S-FE and 3S-GE...? I've heard the GE is a fairly good engine...and I was just wondering, I've heard that all it is is a different head...would this be true or? well...if anyone feels helpful, can they let me know the differences and stuff betweent the engines? thanks. 
-rob! <><
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Wahroonga
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June 2003
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Re: 3S-FE and 3S-GEs
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Fri, 03 December 2004 08:02
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Yes the only difference between these engines is the head. The GE's came with a more sporty cam setup to get the extra power. Apart from that they are pretty much identical, same block, engine capacity, engine mounts and boltup gearboxes.
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Sydney
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May 2002
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Re: 3S-FE and 3S-GEs
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Fri, 03 December 2004 08:19
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It's similar blocks but it's not the same to the point where you can put a GE head on a FE block.
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Location:
Wahroonga
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June 2003
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Re: 3S-FE and 3S-GEs
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Fri, 03 December 2004 08:28
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that'll teach me, i haven't worked with any FE's. GE and GTE all the way.
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Melbourne, Victoria
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December 2004
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Re: 3S-FE and 3S-GEs
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Fri, 03 December 2004 11:48
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Cool....thanks a lot...that's sorta helped...just wondering...would it be really hard to replace an FE head with a GE head...? or is it not worth the bother...? Coz my head's messed up and so I'm just wondering if I can use this as an excuse to do something with it...so yeah...thanks for your help.
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Location:
Sydney / NSW
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March 2004
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Re: 3S-FE and 3S-GEs
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Fri, 03 December 2004 14:43
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you can replace the head, it bolts straight on, however I personally don't think its worth your while, you would then have to change the following:-
1. wiring harness
2. ECU
3. inlet and outlet manifold
4. exhaust
just to name a few
what sort of car is it?
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Location:
Melbourne, Victoria
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December 2004
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Re: 3S-FE and 3S-GEs
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Fri, 03 December 2004 15:20
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it's a 1991 Celica...but it's had a reconditioned engine put back a while ago...now the head's starting to go...so I was just wondering...thanks for that...you guys are pretty helpful...coz this is only my first car and I'm not loaded with money...plus I'm only 19...so I didn't wanna muck around with turbos or anything yet...seems like a lot of hassle...so yeah...but I was thinking I might just stick with this for now and then just get a half cut 3S-GTE...? would that work...ha ha...I don't know very much...but thanks for your help. Possibly just focus on handling while I'm waiting...I dunno man...we'll see...
By the way...is the 3S-FE any good?
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Sydney
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May 2002
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Re: 3S-FE and 3S-GEs
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Fri, 03 December 2004 19:18
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Do a search on this topic. It's not as simple as a bolt on mod as confirmed by Toyota Australia.
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Sydney
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May 2004
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Location:
Sydney / NSW
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March 2004
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Re: 3S-FE and 3S-GEs
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Fri, 03 December 2004 22:23
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if you have a 1991 Celica the engine in your car is a 2.2 litre 5SFE. the 3SFE is the 2.0 litre version. your best bet is to sell your car and buy a ST185 GT4, by the time you finish the conversion to a 3SGTE it would have cost you more than than a GT4.
good luck
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Location:
brisbane
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December 2004
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Re: 3S-FE and 3S-GEs
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Mon, 06 December 2004 03:32
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dunno how much u think it is for a stock conversion 
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Location:
Gold Coast
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January 2003
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Re: 3S-FE and 3S-GEs
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Mon, 06 December 2004 09:51
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yeah i'll agree it not that much man and shit much easier to fix ona gt-2 than a gt-4 and it faster.... 
Nezza 
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Location:
Melbourne, Victoria
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December 2004
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Re: 3S-FE and 3S-GEs
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Mon, 06 December 2004 12:09
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Jus to clear stuff up...yeah...I know usually the St184s came with the 5S-FE...but mine got a reconditioned 3S-FE put in...like...after the 5S got old..so yeah...that's why I was just wondering what I could do with it...but thanks for your help!
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South Australia
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July 2002
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Re: 3S-FE and 3S-GEs
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Mon, 06 December 2004 14:06
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Do a search on this topic. It's not as simple as a bolt on mod as confirmed by Toyota Australia.
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Which explains why I have a 1st Gen 3S-GE head bolted on to a 1992 5S block at the moment in my shed.
However, it's obviously not quite that simple  There the intake manifold and all that stuff that needs to be sorted out as well.
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Location:
Melbourne
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December 2003
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Re: 3S-FE and 3S-GEs
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Mon, 06 December 2004 22:22
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So you replaced the 5sfe with a 3sfe?If im not mistaken, that is going right against RTAs. Engine is older than car? Might wanna check on that one buddy
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Location:
Adelaide, SA
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May 2002
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Re: 3S-FE and 3S-GEs
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Mon, 06 December 2004 23:27
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It's only a bad thing to do if the engine is older... it could have been newer.. maybe!
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Location:
sydney,nsw.oz.
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July 2002
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Re: 3S-FE and 3S-GEs
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Tue, 07 December 2004 01:26
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| StuC wrote on Tue, 07 December 2004 09:22 |
Engine is older than car? Might wanna check on that one buddy
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Might not be older as the 3SFE came out in the RAV4 up to 1999 or 2000.
Cheers
T.
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