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I supported Toymods
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Linux apps
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Mon, 16 August 2004 10:57
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For all you Linux users out there, what programs do you use for the following?
web browser
Email
Image viewer
Video/media player
IRC chat
For a browser I'm currently using Firefox. And for email I'm thinking about using Thunderbird.
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Rowville, Victoria
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Re: Linux apps
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Mon, 16 August 2004 11:19
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On Gentoo//
Browser - Konqueror or Firefox
Email - KDE mail
IM - Kopete
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Cabramatta, NSW
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Re: Linux apps
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Mon, 16 August 2004 13:09
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Browser: Firefox
Email: Evolution (PIM) or Thunderbird (spam buster)
Image viewer: gqview or xnview
Video/media player: mplayer or gxine (both good)
IRC chat: xchat for IRC and GAIM for IM
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Kellyville, Sydney
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Re: Linux apps
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Wed, 18 August 2004 02:18
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how do you set up a dialup connection? i know sweet fuck all about linux but need to use it for uni.
at uni i use mozilla as a web browser though.
chris
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Re: Linux apps
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Wed, 18 August 2004 03:55
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Install Gnome PPP or kppp.
Or you could even use vwdial.
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I supported Toymods
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Re: Linux apps
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Tue, 24 August 2004 10:08
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Ok what ftpd are you guys using?
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Re: Linux apps
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Tue, 24 August 2004 10:13
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vsftp
Supposed to be very secure (hence the name). Who knows though. I only turn the ftp server on if someone wants to send me large files. I turn it off straight afterwards.
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I supported Toymods
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Re: Linux apps
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Tue, 24 August 2004 12:10
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Thanks. I'll give it a looksee.
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Canberra, ACT
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Re: Linux apps
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Tue, 24 August 2004 23:58
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haha
mutt and xv
Old skool! 
You should try the image viewers I suggested. xv was great... In 1996....
As for mutt... You're not one of those people (like Mos) who still complain about receiving HTML emails are you?
P.S.: Mos is a little whinging biatch! 
P.P.S.: I hope he reads that... hehe
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Canberra, ACT
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Re: Linux apps
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Wed, 25 August 2004 01:03
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No. I don't complain about receiving HTML mail, since I don't see any. Any that does come in is automatically sent to bit heaven, ie. deleted. As with telephones - "if it's important they'll keep trying."
I did actually try using Thunderbird for a few months, but it annoyed me too much, and it was prone to violent disagreements with my courier-imap server. courier-imap always won, of course, so I switched back to mutt.
As for image viewers... Need I remind you that the primary function of an image viewer is, in fact, viewing images? xv does this extremely well. Why on earth would I even think about using anything else?
Linux, today, is adhering closely to the fundamental principles of UNIX as it was designed more than 32 years ago. By your rather flawed logic, you should be using Windows instead, as it isn't "so 1972"...
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Re: Linux apps
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Wed, 25 August 2004 01:14
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Ooh, I've got another Mos! haha
So by your logic, there should have been no reason to move away from punch cards?
Technology evolves and gets better. Take, for instance, your example of an image viewer, dithering and resizing algorithms are always improving. xv sux with that stuff. If you want to look at ugly pix, then xv is fine. If you want to view your images smoothly resized (and resized quickly), use something more modern.
P.S.: Don't take anything personally, I just enjoy a good argu^Wdiscussion... 
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Re: Linux apps
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Wed, 25 August 2004 01:28
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So by your logic, there should have been no reason to move away from punch cards?
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Sure. Disks are better. I don't think you'll hear many arguments here, even from the more curmudgeonly types such as myself 
If you'd actually read my original post in this thread, (go on, try it, I double-dare you!) you'd have noticed that I'm using Firefox for a browser, which is a far cry from the original 'www' client of so many moons ago.
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Technology evolves and gets better. Take, for instance, your example of an image viewer, dithering and resizing algorithms are always improving. xv sux with that stuff. If you want to look at ugly pix, then xv is fine. If you want to view your images smoothly resized (and resized quickly), use something more modern.
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Note my comment about viewing images. If I wanted them resized or dithered, I'd use an image processing app, such as Imagemagick's 'convert'.
(Incidentally, a quick spot of investigation reveals that xv and gqview both rely on 'libjpeg' and 'libpng' - how is one going to be superior to the other for displaying an image correctly, when the really error-prone stuff is common to both applications?)
[Updated on: Wed, 25 August 2004 01:29]
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Re: Linux apps
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Wed, 25 August 2004 03:41
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Ah, but viewing images pretty much equates to resizing them on the fly...
Most images I view (photos from digital cameras) are larger than my 1600x1200 screen and need to be resized.
BTW, I wasn't aware that xv now use those libs (it's been a long time since I bothered with xv).
As for the browser, at least you're one step ahead of Mos. He used to keep complaining about how the site looked on lynx....
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I supported Toymods
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Re: Linux apps
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Wed, 25 August 2004 05:59
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What fonts are you guys using with firefox on your *nix systems?
For some reason webpages look very plain and boring using firefox on linux than what they do with firefox on winblows  Kind of puts me off using the linux box as my main machine 
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Re: Linux apps
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Wed, 25 August 2004 06:04
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'serif', 'serif', 'serif', and 'monospace', in that order.
It should look nicer if you are using the Xft-enabled build of Firefox. If you downloaded it from the Moz site, it should have Xft, and most packaged versions, eg. from Debian or Fedora, should have this as well.
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Wed, 25 August 2004 06:07
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I'm a san-serif man myself. I find it easier to read on a computer screen.
And, yeah, you do have the Xft build?
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I supported Toymods
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I supported Toymods
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Re: Linux apps
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Wed, 25 August 2004 11:03
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Has anyone managed to get lm_sensors installed? I've been trying to decrypt the gibberish on the homepage with no luck
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Re: Linux apps
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Wed, 25 August 2004 23:15
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The one that's part of the gDesklets package?
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Re: Linux apps
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Wed, 25 August 2004 23:24
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I think he might be referring to the bits underneath (i2c-core, plus the i2c device (eg. lm78) and i2c bus (eg. i2c-via) modules), not the pretty graphical bit in front
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I supported Toymods
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Re: Linux apps
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Thu, 26 August 2004 04:16
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| Nark wrote on Thu, 26 August 2004 09:15 |
The one that's part of the gDesklets package?
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I've never even heard of gDesklets But i'll look into it.
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I supported Toymods
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Re: Linux apps
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Thu, 16 December 2004 03:40
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Ok I need a good CD burning app aswell as a scaning app.
Whats some good ones?
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Thu, 16 December 2004 03:52
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xcdroast has worked faithfully for me for years.
Not the greatest interface though. There are much easier ones out there, but I'm used to xcdroast so that's what I use.
gToaster looked good from what I saw of it.
No idea about the scanning. You should be able to just use The GIMP I think.
I have used a scanning program before, but I can't remember the name...
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Forster NSW
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Re: Linux apps
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Thu, 16 December 2004 08:51
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Browser - Mozilla or opera (no not firefox either)
Email - Evolution
Image viewer - xv usually (yeah I'm back in the 90's!)
media/video player - xmms and xine
irc - xchat or kvirc, tend to prefer xchat though
ftp daemon - proftpd
burning - xcdroaster? I think it's called that anyway.. the gui one that is
Didn't know there was linux guys here (or at least so many!). So what's everyone's distro of choice then? I'm a gentoo man myself.
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I supported Toymods
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Thu, 16 December 2004 08:57
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xcdroast looks the part. I'll try installing it tomorrow.
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I supported Toymods
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Re: Linux apps
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Thu, 16 December 2004 10:24
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I've been checking out the Gentoo Linux webpage, but be fucked if I can decrypt the gribbish on there
What are you meant to download to get the crap installed?
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Thu, 16 December 2004 11:53
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Gentoo here too.
Cool1, Gentoo's installation is what would be termed "back to basics". Don't expect mouse click installation, expect to know intimately the process of how to hand build an OS onto a system.
Not everyone's cup of tea, but I love the convenience that portage (the packaging system) gives.
To install Open Office (along with all dependencies), you type:
emerge -D openoffice
And then wait a day for the huge bitch to compile... 
You're always up to date because updating every single program on a system is simple as typing:
emerge -uD world
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I supported Toymods
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Thu, 16 December 2004 12:43
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Ok well thats a bit of help. Now tell me what do I need to start? I mean what do I need to download from this mirror: http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/gentoo/
Thanks
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I supported Toymods
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Re: Linux apps
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Fri, 17 December 2004 03:51
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| Nark wrote on Thu, 16 December 2004 22:53 |
Gentoo here too.
Cool1, Gentoo's installation is what would be termed "back to basics". Don't expect mouse click installation, expect to know intimately the process of how to hand build an OS onto a system.
Not everyone's cup of tea, but I love the convenience that portage (the packaging system) gives.
To install Open Office (along with all dependencies), you type:
emerge -D openoffice
And then wait a day for the huge bitch to compile...
You're always up to date because updating every single program on a system is simple as typing:
emerge -uD world
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You're not wrong about open office being a huge bitch to compile... last time I was doing it I let it run for around 10 hours before it errored out on me. Turned out it filled /var/temp (I think, something on the / anyway) due to me having a small / partition. Although by memory it was 2gig or so at the time which seemed ample.
Simple problem to fix, 10 hours of labour before it surfaces. Funny days!
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I supported Toymods
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Re: Linux apps
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Fri, 17 December 2004 04:56
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Next on my list of things is a shared print to PDF file. Anyone ever set one of these up before?
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Fri, 17 December 2004 08:14
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| Dale_ta22 wrote on Fri, 17 December 2004 14:51 |
You're not wrong about open office being a huge bitch to compile... last time I was doing it I let it run for around 10 hours before it errored out on me. Turned out it filled /var/temp (I think, something on the / anyway) due to me having a small / partition. Although by memory it was 2gig or so at the time which seemed ample.
Simple problem to fix, 10 hours of labour before it surfaces. Funny days!
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Yeah, I've run out of disk space compiling Open Office. I had 2.6GB free at the start...
I still can't comprehend how it could use up 2.6GB!!
| Cool1 wrote on Fri, 17 December 2004 15:56 |
Next on my list of things is a shared print to PDF file. Anyone ever set one of these up before?
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What do you mean? A print server that prints to PDF files?
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I supported Toymods
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Fri, 17 December 2004 08:24
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Correct. Bassicly it appears as a printer list and if you print to it, you end up with a PDF file.
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Fri, 17 December 2004 10:41
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Should be part of CUPS (the new printing system in Linux).
Never done it but I know it can be done...
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I supported Toymods
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Fri, 17 December 2004 10:57
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Its there and can be used locally, but be dammed if I can figure out how to share it.
Oh and your not wrong about the Gentoo not being a click and go setup
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I supported Toymods
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Fri, 17 December 2004 11:50
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| Nark wrote on Wed, 25 August 2004 16:07 |
I'm a san-serif man myself. I find it easier to read on a computer screen.
And, yeah, you do have the Xft build?
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sans serif typefaces were specifically designed for computer screens. ie Verdana, Arial, Helvetica (and its variants, neue and rounded).
also the character kern for std output is dependant on the ease of viewing. most serif-ed fonts are quite closely kerned (spaced) together and make it harder to read because the letters run into each other
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Fri, 17 December 2004 12:14
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| Cool1 wrote on Fri, 17 December 2004 21:57 |
Oh and your not wrong about the Gentoo not being a click and go setup
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| ae86drift wrote on Fri, 17 December 2004 22:50 |
sans serif typefaces were specifically designed for computer screens. ie Verdana, Arial, Helvetica (and its variants, neue and rounded).
also the character kern for std output is dependant on the ease of viewing. most serif-ed fonts are quite closely kerned (spaced) together and make it harder to read because the letters run into each other
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Plus serifs were used to make the ends of characters clean when they were chiseled onto stone...
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I supported Toymods
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Fri, 17 December 2004 12:29
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hehehe
TYPOG NERRRDDD
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I supported Toymods
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Sat, 18 December 2004 05:12
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Man this Gentoo crap is just insane I've been at it for hours and I still don't have any graphical interface
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Sat, 18 December 2004 09:23
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hi shane,
it's not directly related to your current problem - but if folks are wondering how to plan their migration to linux (in a SOHO or enterprise environment), this is link to an IBM book (link recently posted to slashdot.org):
http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg246380.htm l
might be a useful read.
otherwise, i wish i could help more - but i've stuck with a Fedora (red hat) install and then restricted apps to anything that ran stably with KDE (except OOffice). You might be able to get a binary install for OOffice if your setup is mostly out-of-the-box. it might save spending hours compiling from source?
failing that- have a look at Suse linux (now part of novel)?
... now if you had a G4 or G5 running OS X i could help a lot more
cheers,
charles.
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