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Sydeny
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F/S - Holdne VN Group 'A' LSD diff with disc brakes
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Thu, 16 December 2004 10:23
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Sorry its not a Toyota. I have a holden LSD with ventilated disc brakes, brake calipers have the cooling type fins on them, pads, handbrake cable etc. I believe its out of a Commodore, around VL (dont quote me on that, could be later). The ratio is about 3.5 (counted manualy) and a tag on it says High Performace and to use correct oil or similar, and I am told its a HDT (un confirmed) as these have a second tag on them stating ratio etc.
Anyway, I have one and am going to sell it. Just need to find out how much I can get for it. And if you reply and say its worth $100 and want to buy it, think again. The diff looks like what I thought the VL Turbo commodores had, but I'm not sure if its that or out of a V8 (if there is a difference). Please let me know what its worth to the right person.
Cheers, Kevin
P.S. Have just been informed from guys on a Commodore site that the diff is out of a VN Group 'A' car.
EDIT: Unfortunately some silly bastard has removed the tag before I got it. It say Borg Warner underneath. The disc are obviously vented. The ratio is 3.45:1. I still think its a HDT diff, due to the vented disc's. The discs are about 275mm in diameter.
[Updated on: Fri, 24 December 2004 02:10]
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sydney
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July 2004
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Re: F/S - LSD diff with disc brakes, whats it worth (not Toyota)
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Thu, 16 December 2004 12:27
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its a lsd out of a vl turbo auto. sell for between 500-700 at wreckers. i am interested in it as the 9 inch in the torana is a tad heavy for the race track
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Brisbane
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June 2003
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Re: F/S - LSD diff with disc brakes, whats it worth (not Toyota)
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Thu, 16 December 2004 12:49
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do you own the LJ aqua torana that runs 10's with the rb30?
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Canberra
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May 2002
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Re: F/S - LSD diff with disc brakes, whats it worth (not Toyota)
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Thu, 16 December 2004 21:52
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If it is the original gearing of 3.5's then it is more than likely out of a Falcon Ute. VL's tended to use 3.08's or 3.45's. The again, the gears may have been changed at some stage. Has it been cut down to suit any specificate application? It would be best to know this so that the right person can purchase it. I could be interested if you can confirm exactly what it came out of.
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sydney
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July 2004
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Re: F/S - LSD diff with disc brakes, whats it worth (not Toyota)
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Fri, 17 December 2004 00:48
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my car is not setup for drag but i have run a 11.2 on a gtec with street tyres. my car looks very similar to that torana you are talkin about ( except mine has more power )
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Sydeny
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May 2003
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Melbourne
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May 2002
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Re: F/S - LSD diff with disc brakes, whats it worth (not Toyota)
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Fri, 17 December 2004 06:41
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Well i can tell you that a vl diff is also the same as a vn ss diff vp, well basically any live rear axel commo. If its one of these diffs the brake rotors aint ventilated stock. Though a good way to tell the ratio, pinion, and weather its lsd or not is to check the numbers on the tag which is bolted to the diff backing plate. Also turn it over and on the bottom of the diff it should say borg warner. Then you have a fairly good idea what its from.
Cheers Adam
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Brisbane
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June 2003
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Re: F/S - LSD diff with disc brakes, whats it worth (not Toyota)
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Fri, 17 December 2004 14:01
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9" diffs out of xys etc had 270mm vented discs....
Get me a pic and ill soon tell you what it is.
If its a 9" LSD...ill take it.
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Sydeny
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May 2003
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Re: F/S - LSD diff with disc brakes, whats it worth (not Toyota)
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Sun, 19 December 2004 04:40
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Photos now added to thread at top. Now what the hell is it, and whats it worth.
Thanks, Kevin
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ireland
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October 2004
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Re: F/S - LSD diff with disc brakes, whats it worth (now with photos) (not Toyota)
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Sun, 19 December 2004 10:39
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is it a cone type lsd
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Melbourne
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May 2002
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Re: F/S - LSD diff with disc brakes, whats it worth (not Toyota)
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Sun, 19 December 2004 23:29
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Its defintly a Borg warner diff and it looks like a commodore diff for sure. All the mounts look like they came of a commodore vl-vp commodore but you would know if its off a vn vp by the width. Though it might be some HDT item as it does have ventilated discs and that grill shit on the calipers.
Cheers Adam
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Sydeny
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May 2003
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Re: F/S - LSD diff with disc brakes, whats it worth (not Toyota)
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Mon, 20 December 2004 00:44
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I rang HDT earlier today and they tell me there is no such thing as a HDT diff. I pulled the cover off and can confirm (off crown wheel) that it is 3.45:1 ratio. Have roughly meassured the disc diameter and its about 275mm. We have a V8 VL here at work and they look the same to me.
With that all said, I'm saying it is out of a VL Commodore and is either out of the V8 or the Turbo six. HDT tell me the the vent disc's confirm this.
So if you (rb20det) or anyone is interested, give me a call or send a PM. Have also just rang "All GM Parts" Greenacre and they want $990 for the same diff (including brakes). If someone has $600, its all yours.
Cheers, Kevin 0413 135472
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Melbourne
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May 2002
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Re: F/S - LSD diff with disc brakes (now with photos) (not Toyota)
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Mon, 20 December 2004 04:36
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I been around a few vl's and i know the rears arnt ventilated though it may be off a HDT LE TURBO or a SS group A or a HDT Director
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Brisbane
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June 2003
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Re: F/S - LSD diff with disc brakes (now with photos) (not Toyota)
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Mon, 20 December 2004 12:04
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could be the one found in walkinshaw etc vl's?
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Adelaide
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August 2003
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Re: F/S - LSD diff with disc brakes (now with photos) (not Toyota)
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Tue, 21 December 2004 12:13
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Id say its from a falcon. ive never heard of or seen vented rear dics on an early commy, but all the xf etc. falcons came with them as standard.
you could also try fitting a falcon or commy rim to check, or take a brake pad out and se if it has a part no. still on it,
or take it to your local auto shop and get them to tell you what the pad is from.
(i bet the part no. is db1109)
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Melbourne
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Re: F/S - LSD diff with disc brakes (now with photos) (not Toyota)
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Tue, 21 December 2004 23:29
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Thats a bloody good idea, but i woudl doubt its from a falcon. Look at the size of the discs 275mm. The brand new BA Falcon runs 280mm discs on the front, and they were there recent upgrade. So i would fing it hard to belive that the rear dics on a 86-87 model falcon could almost be as big as the new front ones. Lets face it they are really big discs so they would have to be from some performance car.
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Adelaide
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September 2003
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Re: F/S - LSD diff with disc brakes (now with photos) (not Toyota)
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Tue, 21 December 2004 23:59
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| Fattony wrote on Wed, 22 December 2004 10:29 |
Thats a bloody good idea, but i woudl doubt its from a falcon. Look at the size of the discs 275mm. The brand new BA Falcon runs 280mm discs on the front, and they were there recent upgrade. So i would fing it hard to belive that the rear dics on a 86-87 model falcon could almost be as big as the new front ones. Lets face it they are really big discs so they would have to be from some performance car.
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You'd be surprised. XA/B/C/D/E Falcons had 286/7 mm vented rear discs that were 24mm thick. Falcon 5 stud pattern is 5 x 114.3
The HSV Commondores from VN/VP era had vented 278mm discs that were 22mm thick (non HSV's were solids all the way). Their hat height was 83mm, where the Falcons were 58 or 83 depending on vintage. Holden stud pattern was 5 x 120.
That info should be able to sort you out.
Cheers
Michael B
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Sydeny
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May 2003
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Re: F/S - LSD diff with disc brakes (now with photos) (not Toyota)
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Wed, 22 December 2004 10:53
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Thanks guys,
I will do some measuring at work tomorrow (thursday). I have spoken with a couple of guys off a commodore site and they tend to think its possible a VL Walkinshaw diff and would be rare.
If this thing is a Walky diff, I sure its worth a lot more money 
Cheers, Kevin
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Sydeny
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May 2003
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Re: F/S - LSD diff with disc brakes (now with photos) (not Toyota)
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Fri, 24 December 2004 02:15
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I have now added to my original post that diff appears to be from a VN Group 'A' car. Also I have roughly measured between the hubs and this is approximately 1530mm. Hope this helps.
Kevin
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Castle Hill, Sydney
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February 2004
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Re: F/S - Holdne VN Group 'A' LSD diff with disc brakes
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Fri, 24 December 2004 04:08
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so will this fit a manual rb30 VL?
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Sydeny
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May 2003
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Re: F/S - Holdne VN Group 'A' LSD diff with disc brakes
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Fri, 24 December 2004 06:56
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I cant guarentee this, but I'm told that the VN Group A diff is based on the VL housing with larger brakes and the crown wheel and pinion are shot peened, meaning they are a lot stronger.
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Melbourne
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May 2002
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Re: F/S - Holdne VN Group 'A' LSD diff with disc brakes
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Sat, 25 December 2004 04:10
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The housing on a vn is about 20odd mm longer than a vl item, though all the mounts are the same
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Sydeny
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May 2003
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Re: F/S - Holdne VN Group 'A' LSD diff with disc brakes
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Sun, 26 December 2004 06:28
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Just spoke with a guy off the commodore site again and he informs me that the VN Group A used the narrower VL diff so as to fit the bigger wheels and this diff should bolt straight into a VL.
Kevin
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Location:
Adelaide
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September 2003
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Re: F/S - Holdne VN Group 'A' LSD diff with disc brakes
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Mon, 27 December 2004 02:45
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It its a Genuine VN Grp A Diff I would be asking a lot for it. VN Group As are still comparable in price and rarity to Walkies.
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Penrith, Sydney
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August 2004
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Re: F/S - Holdne VN Group 'A' LSD diff with disc brakes
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Sat, 15 January 2005 07:06
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if no one has bought it yet im interested in buying but all i can do is 500 cash
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