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Flebbert
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7MGE misfire Wed, 22 December 2004 22:25 Go to next message
ok i have recon injectors just put it. Have spark on all plugs. have pulse at all injectors but only running on 4 cyc. I was wondering if it was sequential injection and the plugs could be on in wrong order or not. Any ideas will be appreciated
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Re: 7MGE misfire Wed, 22 December 2004 22:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Have you done a compression test? Do you suspect blown head gasket at all? (i mean it is a 7mge Very Happy)...

I thought that the 7mge batch fired the injectors? Two batches of 3 injectors each (not sequential...)? That might be wrong, I haven't looked into it specifically...

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Re: 7MGE misfire Wed, 22 December 2004 22:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
If you've blown the gasket between two bores, then it'll run like it's lost a piston. Compression test (or leak-down test) ASAP. Failing that, check that your ignition side of things is wired and working correctly (eg. coils, igniter, etc).
Check out the TRSM for pointers; http://www.cygnusx1.net/supra/library/TSRM/index.h tml
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Re: 7MGE misfire Wed, 22 December 2004 22:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
no blown head gasket. had stuck open injectors and thats y i pulled it apart and put in recon ones. Havent touched wiring system at all except for leads. Do u guys know the firing order for the plugs, i put them in the right way i am pretty sure

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Re: 7MGE misfire Thu, 23 December 2004 02:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
You say you don't have a BHG, but have you done a compression test? lol

Firing order is written on most dizzy caps?

otherwise as a guess from memory its 1,5,3,6,2,4?

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Re: 7MGE misfire Thu, 23 December 2004 03:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
wilbo666 wrote on Thu, 23 December 2004 06:34

I thought that the 7mge batch fired the injectors? Two batches of 3 injectors each (not sequential...)? That might be wrong, I haven't looked into it specifically

7MGE runs 3 banks of 2 injectors.

Find out which injectors/plugs are firing correctly.
Pull spark plug leads off one at a time to see which ones dont make a difference.
Then check the corresponding injectors and see if they are firing.
(put a globe across the wires, globe will light up when it fires.)
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Re: 7MGE misfire Thu, 23 December 2004 03:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
had a dead spark plug and now that is fixed still running very ruff. It doesnt have a BHG as as running fine before i pulled dodge injectors out. As far as i know u dont get BHG from changing injectors
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Re: 7MGE misfire Thu, 23 December 2004 03:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
If you havent changed the plugs lately, Change them all.

Same goes with leads, dizzy cap, and rotor button.
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Re: 7MGE misfire Thu, 23 December 2004 05:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
all new plugs. i got a dead one when i got 6 new ones. Is weird
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Re: 7MGE misfire Thu, 23 December 2004 05:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Flebbert wrote on Thu, 23 December 2004 13:35

all new plugs. i got a dead one when i got 6 new ones. Is weird

Is very wierd.

I'd be making sure all the plugs are correctly gapped then.

Also, do you know which cyl's are running rough yet?
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Flebbert
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Re: 7MGE misfire Thu, 23 December 2004 08:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
problem has been solved.... there was one dud plug and a weak spark on others. cleaned rottar button and dizzy cap connections. Started car... was smoother. Took it for drive and planted out of corner. Spluttered and backfire and then went to normal idle and smooth as new. I figure must have had muck somewhere. Runs a lot better now. They are only cheap plugs in it at moment.

Will buy platnum ones or iridium ones, new leads and new dizzy cap after xmas and then see if it smooths up more. (thats if it can)

Thanks for help guys
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Flebbert
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Re: 7MGE misfire Mon, 28 February 2005 00:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
since before xmas and mechanic drove it the other day and said i have a slight missfire and that engine is way underpower for what it should be.

Have replaced:

Leads
Dizzy Cap
Spark Plugs
Rocket Cover Gasket (Was leaking Oil)
Injectors (recon)
Fuel Reg (goes in today if it turns up)
K&N filter (Turns Up Tomorrow)
Fixed Dizzy wire short


New Symptoms:

1. Back fires on down accel and sometimes when plant foot
2. Misfire - not sure on which cyl or if it is different everytime
3. Hard to Start - runs really ruff for 30 seconds and then smooths up but not completely

Things checked:

Fuel pump is fine
No BHG


Will add checks as i do them but help would be apreciated

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Re: 7MGE misfire Mon, 28 February 2005 04:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
check you have the injector clips on the right injectors!
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Re: 7MGE misfire Mon, 28 February 2005 07:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I thought that they were not sequential and didnt matter which way they went on.
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Re: 7MGE misfire Mon, 28 February 2005 09:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
groups of 2 - it matters!
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Flebbert
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Re: 7MGE misfire Mon, 28 February 2005 23:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Injectors are all in right position.

Wondering if it could be vacumn hoses in wrong positions etc

Starting to really frustrate me. Is not huge missfire just enough to notice. Fires on all 6 and then 1 or more cyl have bad detonation and then fine again
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Re: 7MGE misfire Tue, 01 March 2005 07:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
coil pack??
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Flebbert
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Re: 7MGE misfire Tue, 01 March 2005 10:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Found a little thing causing a huge problem. Wire running off dizzy when u wiggle it causes the engine to splutter and stall Sad

Going to rewire all wires running from dizzy and AFM and see what happens.

Tempted to by a MSD
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Flebbert
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Re: 7MGE misfire Wed, 02 March 2005 06:03 Go to previous message
update:

Wires all fixed, symptoms still remain

I havent tested coil?

will do that next
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