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That Shell Helix 20-70 "sport/high revving" stuff
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Tue, 04 January 2005 05:12
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so what's the deal?? it says on the packet..
"For high-revving engines"
but it's SO thick!
I run a 15-50 now.. and my mate with his 4age has this 20-70 stuff in and thinks it runs really smooth
any thoughts?
I am tempted to run it to see if it smooths it out a little at the top end
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I Supported Toymods
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Re: That Shell Helix 20-70 "sport/high revving" stuff
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Tue, 04 January 2005 06:34
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Remember Penrite HPR15 is 15W60... and a lot of full synthetics are 10W60 or 5W60.
70 weight isn't really hugely thick.
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I Supported Toymods
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Re: That Shell Helix 20-70 "sport/high revving" stuff
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Tue, 04 January 2005 06:36
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Good stuff if you plan on pushing your car hard!
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Epping, Sydney
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April 2003
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Re: That Shell Helix 20-70 "sport/high revving" stuff
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Tue, 04 January 2005 06:45
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I guess 20 when cold ain't too bad for an older engine anyway
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I Supported Toymods
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Re: That Shell Helix 20-70 "sport/high revving" stuff
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Tue, 04 January 2005 07:12
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You would be silly if you gave your car a hard time before it got to operating temp anyways.
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Toymods Social Secretary
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Re: That Shell Helix 20-70 "sport/high revving" stuff
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Tue, 04 January 2005 07:17
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dont be forgetting that toobs sells gulf western oils too 
cheapa cheap
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Epping, Sydney
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Re: That Shell Helix 20-70 "sport/high revving" stuff
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Tue, 04 January 2005 07:23
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so the question then is, WHY OH WHY do shell have their "premium" oil a 5-40 recommended by Ferrari lol...
and their "sport" oil, a 20-70
I run a 15-50 and am wondering if I am missing the "protection" I need lol..
so confusing that they market the products similarly when they are so different
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Epping, Sydney
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Re: That Shell Helix 20-70 "sport/high revving" stuff
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Tue, 04 January 2005 07:33
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You would be silly if you gave your car a hard time before it got to operating temp anyways.
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yeah I was thinking more in terms of speed of delivery through engine when cold.. and thickness/volume through oil pump/clearances and all that when going hard and hot 
I don't know heaps about oil  you probably noticed..
the gulf-western equivalent was 25-70 I think
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Re: That Shell Helix 20-70 "sport/high revving" stuff
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Tue, 04 January 2005 15:16
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no deal, just the advertising weasels knowing that higher numbers and BS terms & phrases have a great appeal to squirrels with beaters, and that it'll run on anything & will probably have a functioning relief valve.
plus, there is very little chance of liability when an old & thrashed engine fails.
my 2 pesos.
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Re: That Shell Helix 20-70 "sport/high revving" stuff
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Tue, 04 January 2005 23:53
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| allencr wrote on Wed, 05 January 2005 02:16 |
no deal, just the advertising weasels knowing that higher numbers and BS terms & phrases have a great appeal to squirrels with beaters, and that it'll run on anything & will probably have a functioning relief valve.
plus, there is very little chance of liability when an old & thrashed engine fails.
my 2 pesos.
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You're not too far off... a lot of people who buy the thicker oils (and miracle additives) are slowly buying thicker and thicker oils to hide a problem or annoying sound they are hearing rather than fixing the problem properly.
e.g. someone with worn valve stem seals can go from a 40 weight oil to a 50 weight and hide the problem for a while... then when it starts happening on a 50 weight oil they go to a 60 and so on and so forth.
It goes the other way too... but with much more tragic results.
e.g. someone with a car that normally runs 50 weight oil puts 40 weight in it and notices their fuel efficiency improve so they decide to put some 30 weight in it.... the engines tolerances may be too wide to use 30 weight in our climate so oil pressure drops heavily and say good bye to your engine!
The most important thing AFAIC is warm up your engine before thrashing it... I don't mean don't move the car at all, just don't give it hell until its warm!
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Newcastle
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June 2004
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Re: That Shell Helix 20-70 "sport/high revving" stuff
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Wed, 05 January 2005 03:59
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Im running full synthetic 5-30.... the engine only has 60k on it but am i running a too lean oil?
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June 2002
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Re: That Shell Helix 20-70 "sport/high revving" stuff
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Wed, 05 January 2005 14:40
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all this oil viscosity talk is scaring me! i was using 5w-50 for abit and noticed blue smoke on start up, so i switched to 10w-30 and the smoke whent away (valve stem seals no doubt). I chose 10w-30 becuase of the japanese sticker in the engine bay (could make out the 10w-30 bit)
hopefully tasmanian weather is simular to japanese  
in any case i've not had any problems, and my oil pressure guage shows pressure so i will stop bieng scared. 
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