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Toymods Vice President
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Re: sw20 gearbox selector
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Mon, 10 January 2005 06:07
 
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I believe the gearbox on the 3SGE in the SW20 is a S54 a variant of the C54 that fits onto a 3S.
What is wrong with the current shift levers? The pic isn't overly clear on what's up.
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Re: sw20 gearbox selector
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Mon, 10 January 2005 06:31
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They aren't my shift levers, the pic was just utilized to illustrate what I was after.
I currently have one on order from toyota japan, but it's been 6 weeks and I still can't get a firm ETA  .
Desperately trying to make dyno day.
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Re: sw20 gearbox selector
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Mon, 10 January 2005 10:51
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Anyone got a picture of their SW20 3SGE gearbox?
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Re: SW20 gearbox selector
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Mon, 10 January 2005 11:04
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Which photo of which bit do you need? Not being the most technically minded. I know where the gear linkages go etc, is a pic of around there useful or...?
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Re: SW20 gearbox selector
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Mon, 10 January 2005 12:37
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From my recent experience the selectors are in a slightly different position on my gen 3 GTE box compared to my old gen 2 GE box (S54). I found out the hard way as my original shift cables were a bit too long for the GTE box. I've got a couple of pics of the GE box after it was removed from the car if you want to take a look as well.
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Re: SW20 gearbox selector
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Mon, 10 January 2005 19:02
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Alchemist: I'm after a photo which illustrates the piece circuled in the image at the top of the thread (I changed the image). This might be pretty hard with the engine in the car, so it might be best left to Senor_2 who might already have the pic I need.
Senor_2: if you could fire me over a picture of the top of your gearbox (or anything you have if you don't have one of the top), that would be fantastic!
My email: toymods @ scattered . com . au
I have a feeling that they're going to be different. Thanks to Josh for the info about it being a S54 (a variation of a C54).
I think I might be best chasing up someone with an E series box.
Anyone have picture of a GT4 box?
Thanks everyone for your help so far!!!!
Dave
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Toymods Vice President
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Re: 3SGTE gearbox selector
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Mon, 10 January 2005 23:14
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I could possibly hook you up with a loaner, for dyno day at least.
Mine won't be going again any time real soon.
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Re: 3SGTE gearbox selector
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Mon, 10 January 2005 23:28
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That might rock Josh, I'll let you know thursday if I'm going to make dyno day (the motor has to be in by then I reckon if I'm going to make it - leaving thurs-sat for piping and electrics).
I still have to make a journey over to you to pick up that TB inlet (if it's still available that is).
Cheers,
Dave
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Re: 3SGTE gearbox selector
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Mon, 10 January 2005 23:37
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davedave I'll forward u a couple of pics tonight if u still want to take a look, haven't got them with me now.
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Toymods Vice President
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Re: 3SGTE gearbox selector
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Mon, 10 January 2005 23:53
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The throttle inlet is definately still available for you dude. Who's doing the wiring for you?
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Re: 3SGTE gearbox selector
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Tue, 11 January 2005 00:14
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Senor_2: Very much appreciated dude.
Joshstix: Me, with the aid of a couple of toyota wiring diagrams, some diagrams off of the mr2oc/mk15 forum, my aw11 loom and 2 & 1/2 GT4 wiring looms, a soldering iron, multimeter, and a bunch of crossed fingers 
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Re: 3SGTE gearbox selector
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Tue, 11 January 2005 02:50
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OK, the toyota guys just rang me up to confirm that the part they ordered some 6 weeks ago is the right one 
I've now been given the time estimate of 20 days as Japan is trying to source the part from the US (and failing that, Europe)
I did find out that the selectors on the E153 and the S54 are indeed different. The one on a GT4 box looks the same from the part catalogue, but has a different part number
If anyone knows of any E153's at any wreckers, I'd love to hear from you.
Cheers,
Dave
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Re: 3SGTE gearbox selector
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Tue, 11 January 2005 04:33
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What are these gearboxes out of, I've got not much idea bout the codes, but might know where wrecks are?
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Re: 3SGTE gearbox selector
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Tue, 11 January 2005 05:18
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MR2 SW20 Turbo is the only thing.
I've rang about 20 places today (adel, melb, syd & bris) and still no luck, the few people that have gearboxes don't want to seperate the selector.
If you know of any places that might have a wrecked SW20 turbo or a gearbox, please let me know.
Cheers,
Dave
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Toymods Vice President
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Re: 3SGTE gearbox selector
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Tue, 11 January 2005 05:59
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Dave try getting onto Mr Revhead off these forums about getting the part from NZ, he's pretty damn helpfull and some of hte prices are surprisingly good.
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Re: 3SGTE gearbox selector
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Tue, 11 January 2005 12:04
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davedave, just sent u an email with a couple of pics.
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Re: 3SGTE gearbox selector
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Tue, 11 January 2005 19:14
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Thanks mate! they're very useful!
Before we start, I'll explain that this assembly is in two pieces. A bracket (that bolts to the gearbox) and a lever (that the cable connects to which moves the selector)
From what I can see, they are very similar. The only difference being that the bracket on the S54 one is bent bringing the lever closer to the selector. This I think would in turn shorten the levers selecting arm and hence give you less movement on the selector arm when you shift (the opposite of a short shifter).
It looks so damn close though that I'm almost ready to give it a go.
What do you guys think?
Cheers,
Dave
 
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Toymods Club Treasurer
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Re: 3SGTE gearbox selector
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Wed, 12 January 2005 02:41
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Thanks dude, I've filled out their parts enquiry form and crossed my fingers
If this doesn't come up trumps, I think I might grab a 3sge (S54) one and try and fabricate it to fit.
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Location:
Newcastle
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April 2004
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Re: 3SGTE gearbox selector
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Mon, 17 January 2005 00:48
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I've got a V6 camry box in my sv21 camry. The V6 box is the E153 and the camry orginal 4 cyl box it think was a s54 or s something anyway. i am pretty sure the 4 cyl camry box is the same as the 4 cyl celica box and probably mr2 non turbo box.
I have the orginal camry selector cables still in my car connected to the new V6 box. The selector arangement in those pics looks idenical to both the 4 cly box and the E153 from camry and the GT4 box.
The only differences i found were the brackets that the cables go into on the boxes. The bracket on the S box is thinner than the E box and the cables move around (in the direction of the cable travel, not sideways if that makes any sense).
I also had to modify the bracket from the E box to take the cables from the S box other wise i couldn't get reverse or first gear. (the posistion on the box is slightly out)
I have the S box sitting out of the car and the E box in my car.
If you would like Photos i can get them for both and the modified bracket
Hope this helps
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Location:
nelson, new zealand
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October 2004
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Re: 3SGTE gearbox selector
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Mon, 17 January 2005 01:32
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yup k road are good guys, i deal with em myself...
dave, im just about to send you an update email.....
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Re: 3SGTE gearbox selector
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Mon, 17 January 2005 01:38
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Thanks for that CamryGT, I think that reinforces my theory that the bracket on the S series is (more)bent than the E series box.
Which would mean that by being further from the cable mounting position (and closer to the other selector) it would mean that besides requiring more cable movement to move the other selector, it would also have longer to reach from the moounting position (which might make it impossible to get to some gears - 5th and reverse for example).
Don't worry about the photo's, I think I have it pretty right in my head.
Mr_revhead: thanks, *crosses fingers for good news*
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Location:
Newcastle
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April 2004
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Re: 3SGTE gearbox selector
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Mon, 17 January 2005 23:52
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Yeah, the total movement needed in the cables for it work on mine was the same on both boxes, but the bracket just needs modifying because the overall posistion of the cables on the box is slightly different.
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