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western queensland
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September 2004
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 3s gte RWD stuff
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Fri, 14 January 2005 09:30
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hello  i am putting together my 3s gte to go in my SA63
The sump splash plate on the fwd motor fouls the 2s-c oil pick up. Do i cut the leg off that rubs, space down the foot to clear, or leave the fwd splash plate out all together??
i have searched but have not found 
thanks
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VIC, Sth Frankston.
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July 2003
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Re: 3s gte RWD stuff
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Fri, 14 January 2005 09:40
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Are you using the fwd sump? From what I have read, use the 2s oil pickup with the 2s sump.
Otherwise, your prolly gonna have to hackup the fwd sump...
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Location:
western queensland
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September 2004
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Re: 3s gte RWD stuff
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Fri, 14 January 2005 10:07
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2s sump
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western queensland
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September 2004
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Re: 3s gte RWD stuff
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Wed, 26 January 2005 01:38
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Ok i have left out the splash plate, hopefully this is an east-west thing and won't be needed for north-south.
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Location:
Eskilstuna, Sweden
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May 2002
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Re: 3s gte RWD stuff
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Wed, 26 January 2005 02:20
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You need the splash plate (windage tray) in a motor if it be E-W or N-S.
Get the 2S sump and pick-up as has already been suggested.
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Location:
western queensland
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September 2004
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Re: 3s gte RWD stuff
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Wed, 26 January 2005 03:21
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i have all the 2s stuff, but ok how should i modify the pickup to fit like  in my first post? has anyone come across this problem?
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I supported Toymods
Banned User
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Brisbane
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: 3s gte RWD stuff
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Wed, 26 January 2005 03:40
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Just cut the plate.
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Location:
western queensland
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September 2004
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Re: 3s gte RWD stuff
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Wed, 26 January 2005 03:45
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it's not about cutting the plate, its that the third leg that mounts the 2s pick up is too short to bolt up. do i space it or do i leave the leg out all together as the fwd pick up only has 2 legs?
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Location:
Brisbane
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February 2003
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Re: 3s gte RWD stuff
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Wed, 26 January 2005 07:01
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If you space it, will the leg hit the sump?
If the 3S does OK with 2 mount points (pipe and supporting leg), then I don't see why the 2S would need 3??
So my vote would be to space it, or if thats not possible, cut off the 3rd leg.
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Location:
western queensland
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September 2004
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Wed, 26 January 2005 11:01
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thank you, a better answer  yes i will try that
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Terrigal
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May 2002
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Re: 3s gte RWD stuff
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Wed, 26 January 2005 22:22
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Let us know what you end up doing as i'll be in this situation shortly
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I supported Toymods
Banned User
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Brisbane
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: 3s gte RWD stuff
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Thu, 27 January 2005 03:55
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My 2s pickup bolted to the 3S with no problem at all. I cant understand what the problem is
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Location:
western queensland
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September 2004
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Re: 3s gte RWD stuff
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Sun, 30 January 2005 07:41
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the 2s doesen't use the splash tray so the pickup doesen't normally have to clear it
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Terrigal
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May 2002
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Re: 3s gte RWD stuff
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Sun, 30 January 2005 07:46
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Mate check out my post, Joel's RWD 3S-GTE thread.. I got a pic there of the 2S oil pickup and sump and it all mounts up with no mods.
Cheers
Joel
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Location:
Canberra
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June 2003
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Re: 3s gte RWD stuff
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Mon, 31 January 2005 03:12
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Keep the windage tray whatever you do. Even on my sump where the windage tray was effectively the sump floor it had to stay. You must keep it to promote oil return, help reduce oil surge and stop the crank slopping through an oil bath which hurts hp and aerates your oil.
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Location:
nz
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February 2005
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Re: 3s gte RWD stuff
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Sun, 20 February 2005 03:08
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hey all!
I need some help, im going from a completed 1ggze gz10 soarer conversion to a 3sgte conversion into an aa63 celica. The motor is from an st185 gt4 celica that has been written off but still runs.
I have a bit of experience in toyota conversions and have many friends with experience to but...
My questions are these...can i use factory s engine x member from sa63 on the 3sgte, can the t50 s series bell housing from the sa63 be made to fit a w57,and wiring- hard or easy,should i bother with the factory ecu and loom or opt for simplified loom and aftermarket enginge manegment??
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
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Location:
western queensland
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September 2004
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Re: 3s gte RWD stuff
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Sun, 20 February 2005 10:52
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yes you can use an SA63 crossmember, but you will need to work with the LHS engine mount as the 3sgte block has the holes on this side removed, i got away with it by using a normal 3sge block.
the t50 bell housing i'm not sure, iused the housing from a W56 to bolt up to my W55 and 3S block.
I'm using all new custom wiring and EMS computer so i can run individual coil packs and a few other goodies this is easier for me as i don't have a factory loom.
Good luck with your conversion, i hope this helps?
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Brisbane
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May 2002
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Re: 3s gte RWD stuff
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Sun, 20 February 2005 12:51
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A T50 bellhousing definitely won't fit on a W5x gearbox.
FYI I was looking at a 3S-GTE mounted in John Duel's TA6x Carina earlier today, and it was bolted up to a W58 using a 2Y bellhousing. Apparently one of the bolt holes is slightly off (easily fixed) but apart from that it bolts right up!
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Terrigal
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May 2002
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Re: 3s gte RWD stuff
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Sun, 20 February 2005 22:12
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This bellhousing moves the starter to the driver side right?
What car would I find a 2Y bellhousing? Anyone know?
Cheers
Joel
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Brisbane
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May 2002
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Re: 3s gte RWD stuff
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Mon, 21 February 2005 02:31
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Yes, starter on the drivers side, away from the exhaust which is a bonus. You need to find a fairly compact starter which doesn't foul the steering gear though.
Y series engines are found in commercials like the Tarago, Liteace and Hilux.
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Location:
western queensland
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September 2004
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Re: 3s gte RWD stuff
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Tue, 01 March 2005 10:07
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i got mine out of a YR22 van with a W56 column selecter alloy 5 speed. the bolt hole is at the top and can be fixed with a die grinder
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Location:
Terrigal
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May 2002
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Re: 3s gte RWD stuff
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Thu, 17 March 2005 23:20
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Did you find it at a normal or commercial wrecker?
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Location:
Borneo - Land of the Head...
Registered:
April 2003
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Re: 3s gte RWD stuff
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Sat, 19 March 2005 05:48
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Hi,
Im half way doing my 3S-GTE RWD conversion too. Recently, I've came across someone who had mod his TA23 without modifying the oil sump, the engine is straight and of course the orignal FWD sump is now tilted. He says its OK just put in extra motor oil pass the F mark on the dip stick, the oil pick up should be able to work fine. So far he claims that this set up has been working in the 3 cars he has modified. Anybody else has tried this or seen anybody else doing the same??, what are the results?. any opinions?..I have already followed this guys set up, it maybe too late to change now...
Vern
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Location:
western queensland
Registered:
September 2004
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Re: 3s gte RWD stuff
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Tue, 29 March 2005 10:05
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from a normal wrecker
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Location:
Terrigal
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May 2002
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Re: 3s gte RWD stuff
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Mon, 04 April 2005 00:48
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Hey, I got a Y bellhousing now.. What starter motor are you using?
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Location:
western queensland
Registered:
September 2004
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Re: 3s gte RWD stuff
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Tue, 05 April 2005 11:34
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i have no idea what it is? it has no numbers or names, just a fluke i think. I will take to a wrecker in bris to check against others, have a feeling is off an old cressida?? sorry.
what flywheel are you using? mines an ST141 modified to 8 bolt.
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Location:
western queensland
Registered:
September 2004
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Re: 3s gte RWD stuff
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Sun, 05 June 2005 05:31
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its a 2y starter.
next question, i am on my third crankshaft and the rear main seal doesn't fit? the flywheel flange seems to be smaller though repco say all 'S' engines carry the same rear main seal?? what crank have i got 
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