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capableronTRD
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7M head bolt retorque? Mon, 17 January 2005 08:23 Go to next message
Well i've just finished a head gasket job on a 7M-GE, Very Happy
Aint she pretty? Laughing

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v606/Asmodai/finished.jpg

I've torqued the bolts down to 72 ft/lbs (as this is the number i kept hearing from everyone).

Anyway, i'm wondering what is the go with retorquing the head?
I know its a good idea to wait till 1000-1500kms or so,

Some say to back off each bolt and retighten one by one, others say not to back it off as you introduce oil, water, whatever sorts of stuff into the thread that can mess up the torque readings (??).

What is the proper technique?

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Re: 7M head bolt retorque? Mon, 17 January 2005 10:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
must undo them and retorque one by one in order as indicated in the manual

highly highly unlikely to introduced shit into the thread as the h/g should still be sealing the galleries
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Re: 7M head bolt retorque? Mon, 17 January 2005 10:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ed_ma61 wrote on Mon, 17 January 2005 20:51

must undo them and retorque one by one in order as indicated in the manual

highly highly unlikely to introduced shit into the thread as the h/g should still be sealing the galleries


Then theoritically Ed, can you do the same by taking out the old headbolts and installing ARP ones in the same manner ?

If so, consider the job done !!!!

I would guess to torque in stages like 50 - 70 and then 90 (or whatever the ARP instructions say ?
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Re: 7M head bolt retorque? Mon, 17 January 2005 10:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
bbaacchhyy wrote on Mon, 17 January 2005 21:34

ed_ma61 wrote on Mon, 17 January 2005 20:51

must undo them and retorque one by one in order as indicated in the manual

highly highly unlikely to introduced shit into the thread as the h/g should still be sealing the galleries


Then theoritically Ed, can you do the same by taking out the old headbolts and installing ARP ones in the same manner ?

If so, consider the job done !!!!

I would guess to torque in stages like 50 - 70 and then 90 (or whatever the ARP instructions say ?



id be happy enough to do that Smile

make sure you follow the pattern correctly though

but dont just guess, as above, follow the instrustions exactly. each bolt also needs to go through a torque, re-torque cycle for preliminary stretch before final tensioning.

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Re: 7M head bolt retorque? Mon, 17 January 2005 12:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
So is 72 ft/lbs the correct torque for the 7m-gte also?
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Re: 7M head bolt retorque? Mon, 17 January 2005 12:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
72ft/lbs is the maximum sustainable torque capable by the stock 7m head bolts (as measured by some yank doing a stress strain analysis ages ago)...

its commonly regarded as what you should retorque them to

ARP or other fasteners have thier own specs to follow when installing
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Re: 7M head bolt retorque? Mon, 17 January 2005 13:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ed_ma61 wrote on Mon, 17 January 2005 22:37

72ft/lbs is the maximum sustainable torque capable by the stock 7m head bolts (as measured by some yank doing a stress strain analysis ages ago)...

its commonly regarded as what you should retorque them to

ARP or other fasteners have thier own specs to follow when installing



i did mine at 73 and they were fine!!
i didnt *undo* mine when i re-torqued it..i just tightened them up...to discover they had lost fuck all of their tightness
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Re: 7M head bolt retorque? Mon, 17 January 2005 15:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
First time i torqued the headbolts i whent to 68ft pounds. Good thing i did as i found a couple headbolts on intake side were loose. The headgasket was just done at toyota from the previous owner ($2500!!)
A year later i did a retorque and found none of the bolts had lost any tightness from the original 68ft pounds.
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Re: 7M head bolt retorque? Mon, 17 January 2005 21:03 Go to previous message
I believe you are referring to this article:

http://www.supramania.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1 0219&highlight=genuine+head+gasket

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