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alliance_22
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How much can an SR20DE produce? (Stock form)	Tue, 18 January 2005 22:44

Hey all, anyone know how much KW do the SR20DE Produce ? are they 114kw? or are they 100kw? [Updated on: Mon, 24 January 2005 00:10] [Report message to a moderator]

draven
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Re: How much can an SR20DE produce?	Tue, 18 January 2005 22:45

there are about 43262571 variants of the sr20-DE [Report message to a moderator]

draven
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Re: How much can an SR20DE produce?	Tue, 18 January 2005 22:47

a 5 second google search tells me the early design SR20-de made 105kw I'm sure if you want to know more, you can spend 5 mins googling and work it out [Report message to a moderator]

Nark
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Re: How much can an SR20DE produce?

Tue, 18 January 2005 22:51

draven wrote on Wed, 19 January 2005 09:45

there are about 43262571 variants of the sr20-DE

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malazn
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Re: How much can an SR20DE produce?	Tue, 18 January 2005 23:15

105km @ the flywheel from factory around 80?km @ the wheels factory.. havnt dynoed my sss yet but it should make atleast 80kw [Report message to a moderator]

hotrolla
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Re: How much can an SR20DE produce?	Tue, 18 January 2005 23:46

Well my sr20+turbo silvia has 157kw at the wheels and thats only on 6psi [Report message to a moderator]

Corona RT142
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Re: How much can an SR20DE produce?	Wed, 19 January 2005 00:56

shouldn't the topic be how much does a sr20de produce (stock). How man can it porduce well lots. My sis's boyfriens had one and after a few mods was producing around 130kw. But yes stock aus spec ones produce 105kw and 179Nm of Torque [Report message to a moderator]

Fr3aK
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Re: How much can an SR20DE produce?	Wed, 19 January 2005 00:56

I saw a SR20 non-turbo auto S13 in a HPI magazine once, it made ~90rwkW with: 256' HKS cams Extractors A'PEXi SAFC II and ITC Head porting POD filter My guess is 180hp+ at the engine. [Report message to a moderator]

white86
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Re: How much can an SR20DE produce?	Wed, 19 January 2005 01:16

How much CAN it produce? There was a stripped 3 series bmw race car with an n/a sr20 making 198rwkw. [Report message to a moderator]

Joshstix
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Re: How much can an SR20DE produce?	Wed, 19 January 2005 02:27

We've had a bluebird at a Toymods Dyno day with a basically standard VVT SR20DE make 96KW I believe. [Updated on: Wed, 19 January 2005 02:29] [Report message to a moderator]

dizzy
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Re: How much can an SR20DE produce?

Wed, 19 January 2005 02:52

white86 wrote on Wed, 19 January 2005 12:16

How much CAN it produce? There was a stripped 3 series bmw race car with an n/a sr20 making 198rwkw.

heres a 300hp(about 220kW i think) one.

http://www.se-r.net/multimedia/pictures/300hp_na_s r20/

Pretty amazing.

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IronWanker
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Re: How much can an SR20DE produce?	Wed, 19 January 2005 02:53

Hold on a minute here... An SR20DE with 2000CC displacement produces only 5KW more than our beloved 4AGE? I was under the impression that SRs made more like 120 at the flywheel stock... I'm assuming that's the blacktop or vvt versions? note - our 4AGE 20V black top also produces 120kw! Once again, props to this wonderful engine, props to toyota and jeers to Nissan! [Report message to a moderator]

Nark
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Re: How much can an SR20DE produce?

Wed, 19 January 2005 03:01

IronWanker wrote on Wed, 19 January 2005 13:53

An SR20DE with 2000CC displacement produces only 5KW more than our beloved 4AGE?

And what're the torque curves like? Razz

Engines aren't just about peak power.

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truenosedan
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Re: How much can an SR20DE produce?

Wed, 19 January 2005 03:33

Nark wrote on Wed, 19 January 2005 13:31

IronWanker wrote on Wed, 19 January 2005 13:53

An SR20DE with 2000CC displacement produces only 5KW more than our beloved 4AGE?

And what're the torque curves like? Razz

Engines aren't just about peak power.

so so so true!

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Gr33nM0nk3y
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Re: How much can an SR20DE produce?	Wed, 19 January 2005 04:41

fwd sr's make 105kw's rwd sr's make 108kw's my old sss with extractors, exhaust, filter and angry timing made 97hp at the wheels.. sr's are the rocker arm gheyness wit teh massive aids as they say [Updated on: Wed, 19 January 2005 04:41] [Report message to a moderator]

Intensevil
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Re: How much can an SR20DE produce?	Wed, 19 January 2005 04:56

the s14 vvti makes 117 but im not sure about the s15 sr20de [Report message to a moderator]

improvedae86
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Re: How much can an SR20DE produce?	Wed, 19 January 2005 05:23

the s15 is 205hp at the flywheel , the same as the s13 sr20det ahh progress [Report message to a moderator]

Intensevil
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Re: How much can an SR20DE produce?	Fri, 21 January 2005 06:01

yeah but the s13 sr20det would be a much better engine, the torque curve would be much much better [Report message to a moderator]

CrUZsida
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Re: How much can an SR20DE produce?

Fri, 21 January 2005 08:08

Fr3aK wrote on Wed, 19 January 2005 08:56

I saw a SR20 non-turbo auto S13 in a HPI magazine once, it made ~90rwkW with:

256' HKS cams
Extractors
A'PEXi SAFC II and ITC
Head porting
POD filter

My guess is 180hp+ at the engine.

Your guess would be way off.

It would be pushing about 150hp at the fly.
Providing your 90rwkW figure is correct.

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Fr3aK
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Re: How much can an SR20DE produce?	Fri, 21 January 2005 10:33

90.7 rwkW to be precise. A guess is a guess: pity it's so expensive to pull an engine out and dyno it. If you pay to pull it out etc, i'll bet ya a carton of beer i'm within 10% [Report message to a moderator]

CrUZsida
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Re: How much can an SR20DE produce?

Fri, 21 January 2005 10:41

Fr3aK wrote on Fri, 21 January 2005 18:33

90.7 rwkW to be precise.

A guess is a guess: pity it's so expensive to pull an engine out and dyno it. If you pay to pull it out etc, i'll bet ya a carton of beer i'm within 10%

Lets just put some maths to your 180 flywheel hp.

90rwkW is 121rwhp.

121/180 = 67%

Are you trying to tell me the S13 Auto has a 33% drivetrain loss?

I think not.

EDIT: This is all assuming that the 90rwkw was accurate.

If it SHOULD be getting 180flywheel hp, then that dyno is way off (as they tend to be)

[Updated on: Mon, 24 January 2005 08:09]

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styler
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Re: How much can an SR20DE produce?	Sun, 23 January 2005 13:17

from 100kw to about 120kw roughly depending on model any particular reason you were chasing this information?, id be asking about the sr20det [Report message to a moderator]

4agte
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Re: How much can an SR20DE produce?	Sun, 23 January 2005 21:24

there is a variable valve timing version of the sr20 de which is supposed to make arround the 140kw mark [Report message to a moderator]

Shraka
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Re: How much can an SR20DE produce?

Sun, 23 January 2005 23:11

4agte wrote on Mon, 24 January 2005 08:24

there is a variable valve timing version of the sr20 de which is supposed to make arround the 140kw mark

Pfft. The Honda Integra Type R B18C made 140kw out of 1.8ltrs. Razz

P.S. The SR20DET in the S13 only made 150kw stock. LOL.

Oh and for you torque curve people, get a V8 if you want torque ya bums. Razz

[Updated on: Sun, 23 January 2005 23:12]

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alliance_22
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Re: How much can an SR20DE produce?	Sun, 23 January 2005 23:42

Wow i forgot about this post... but yeah thanks for the info guys.. why i ask ? i just have a friend with a S13 SR20de 1992 model... just wnated to know how much beter is his car from my Gen2 powered celica.... apparently.... from wahat i've seen on here... its about 20+kw more ohhhhh well... i dont understand how some of our ST162s can outrun or beat a s13 SR20DE They sound like a very strong car... [Report message to a moderator]

Shraka
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Re: How much can an SR20DE produce?	Mon, 24 January 2005 00:08

Umm, the SR20DE in the S13 only does just a touch over 100kw... like 105kw or something. It loses more power in the drivetrain than your FWD too. 3S-GE Celica's do what? 103kw? And thats assuming that the cars are the same weight. I think the S13 is a touch heavier. [Report message to a moderator]

alliance_22
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Re: How much can an SR20DE produce?

Mon, 24 January 2005 00:14

Shraka wrote on Mon, 24 January 2005 11:08

Umm, the SR20DE in the S13 only does just a touch over 100kw... like 105kw or something. It loses more power in the drivetrain than your FWD too. 3S-GE Celica's do what? 103kw? And thats assuming that the cars are the same weight. I think the S13 is a touch heavier.

yeah its 103kw... i wonder what it'll be getting at the rear wheels... if 105kw at engine... is it possible to get it to 90+kw at the rear?

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Mookie
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Re: How much can an SR20DE produce?	Mon, 24 January 2005 06:05

Does the guy who owns the blue sss pulsar post here ? I was it on tv it's such a sleeper [Report message to a moderator]

4agte
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Re: How much can an SR20DE produce?	Mon, 24 January 2005 07:57

105 equal 80 something at the bags [Report message to a moderator]

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