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SW20 MR2 turbo VS JZA70 supra 2.5 TT
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Wed, 19 January 2005 22:29
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hey all, im anthony just signed up..
just need your advice..
ive been reading alot about both these cars and there both very different in almost every way.
would you be able to tell me the good and bad things of these cars and which one would be better street racer and street cruise..
im saving up for either one just gathering info for which one would be the better buy for the money..
cheers
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sunny coast, qld
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October 2002
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Re: SW20 MR2 turbo VS JZA70 supra 2.5 TT
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Wed, 19 January 2005 23:19
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do you need 4 seats?
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Brisbane
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March 2003
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Re: SW20 MR2 turbo VS JZA70 supra 2.5 TT
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Thu, 20 January 2005 02:35
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^^^
The one and only downfall (or plus) of the MR2.
The one and only reason I drive a Nissan instead of a Toyota 
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Re: SW20 MR2 turbo VS JZA70 supra 2.5 TT
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Thu, 20 January 2005 10:45
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I recommend the jza70 .. such a nice car to drive and looks the goods , but hey , ive got a battleboat myself so im a bit biast 
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January 2005
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Re: SW20 MR2 turbo VS JZA70 supra 2.5 TT
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Thu, 20 January 2005 13:23
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yeah it would be a down fall with only two seats in the mr2 but then again most of my friend would have cars already...
im heading down the road more towards the jza70...
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October 2004
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Re: SW20 MR2 turbo VS JZA70 supra 2.5 TT
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Thu, 20 January 2005 13:57
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you wont regret going down that road .. jza70's are sweet and dont forget to add it to members rides , ill chuck mine up soon , didnt get it that long ago! 
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Melbourne
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January 2005
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Re: SW20 MR2 turbo VS JZA70 supra 2.5 TT
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Thu, 20 January 2005 21:27
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i prob wont get the jza70 for a while because im only 16 and still saving up.. 
but give me a yr or 2 and ill have one in the driveway beggin to be abused 
im saving every penny to get it asap!!
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Re: SW20 MR2 turbo VS JZA70 supra 2.5 TT
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Thu, 20 January 2005 23:32
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its threads like this that make me wish i had my JZA61  soon tho!!
I would take the JZA70 over the SW20 simply cause they looks nicer. the fact that a JZA70 would be quicker is another good factor!
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Melbourne
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January 2005
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Re: SW20 MR2 turbo VS JZA70 supra 2.5 TT
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Thu, 20 January 2005 23:44
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ive been reading and both cars factory stock the sw20 mr2 turbo on paper does 14.3 while the jza70 2.5 tt does 14.8...
but then again bolt on upgrades done to both would leed the jza70 on top.
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Re: SW20 MR2 turbo VS JZA70 supra 2.5 TT
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Fri, 21 January 2005 00:01
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well i spose with a bigger engine smaller mods would make a more noticable differnce rather than the same mods on a smaller engine
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Parramatta
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July 2002
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Re: SW20 MR2 turbo VS JZA70 supra 2.5 TT
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Fri, 21 January 2005 00:41
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all Bias people...
go the mr2 nothing beats it.
Seriouly though i think its all for what you want the car for i think the 2 have much better looks very sleak and classy. can be modifed to extreams... and traction is fantastic in them with large power. so quater mile times great track driving can be great, but drifting a big no no
supra power easier but keep in mind the weight factor so in realty they come about even in power. 4 seats great track car with suspension mods and very driftable.
but i am bias also i love the 2's always have always wil.
good luck
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Melbourne
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January 2005
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Re: SW20 MR2 turbo VS JZA70 supra 2.5 TT
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Fri, 21 January 2005 00:50
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thanks for the input man!!
is the 3s-gte easy to work on and take care of?
ive only started reading about them so im not that much informed..
do u have a pic of ur engine bay?
when u start makin high hp out of the mr2 cooling is a problem..
how can u over cum that.. ive seen rear mounted intercoolers in the boot, but thats gettin extreme..
cheers
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Re: SW20 MR2 turbo VS JZA70 supra 2.5 TT
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Fri, 21 January 2005 01:40
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High hp doesnt mean heat problems in the mr2. The most common option is a water to air intercooler mounted somewhere in the engine bay, with a front mounted radiator to cool the water for the cooler. The rear engine bay gets huge airflow due to the underbody design of the car.
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Re: SW20 MR2 turbo VS JZA70 supra 2.5 TT
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Fri, 21 January 2005 01:56
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I have an mr2 also, so bias again (3s-ge though) and yeah, I love them both, but mr2 wins However, if the supra came with that girl in your avatar......
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January 2005
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Re: SW20 MR2 turbo VS JZA70 supra 2.5 TT
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Fri, 21 January 2005 02:38
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well that sure answered my question with the cooling problem..
btw your mk1 is quite a clean look!! very nice!! (your avatar)
shes got a stunning ass dosent she Muzzi!! lolz just like a freshly grown peach
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Re: SW20 MR2 turbo VS JZA70 supra 2.5 TT
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Fri, 21 January 2005 02:42
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yeah that was after a nice wash, my car is so dirty atm, hasnt had a wash for about 3 weeks. It doesnt have the enkei 17s on it anymore, i got some 15" 5kg wheels on it now + its been lowered since then so looks nice . I vote gen3 mr2... you can get huge power out of them.
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Fri, 21 January 2005 11:47
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the 17z look madd on the mk1 but i guess lighter is better!!
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Melbourne
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November 2003
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Re: SW20 MR2 turbo VS JZA70 supra 2.5 TT
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Fri, 21 January 2005 12:24
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I hear MR2s are hard to work on, due to having such a godamned small engine bay.
Both are great cars. If you want something light and nimble, get a SW20. You wants something very quick, cruisy, and big, get a JZA70.
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January 2005
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Re: SW20 MR2 turbo VS JZA70 supra 2.5 TT
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Sat, 22 January 2005 07:41
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i put this thread up because these are the 2 im considering buying when i have saved enough...
the jza61 is a nice ride but, one of my favourites!!
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Re: SW20 MR2 turbo VS JZA70 supra 2.5 TT
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Sun, 23 January 2005 06:53
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| gigante wrote on Sat, 22 January 2005 18:41 |
the jza61 is a nice ride but, one of my favourites!!
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 i am not with u ? are u saying the JZA61 is one of your favourite rides ? or wat ?
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Toronto, Downtown
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September 2004
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sydney
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July 2003
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Re: SW20 MR2 turbo VS JZA70 supra 2.5 TT
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Sun, 23 January 2005 10:43
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| TRD_Supra wrote on Sun, 23 January 2005 07:53 |
| gigante wrote on Sat, 22 January 2005 18:41 |
the jza61 is a nice ride but, one of my favourites!!
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i am not with u ? are u saying the JZA61 is one of your favourite rides ? or wat ?
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sorry TRD_supra... i shouldnt have the "but" in there..
yeah their one of my favourites
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On Probation
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Re: SW20 MR2 turbo VS JZA70 supra 2.5 TT
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Sun, 23 January 2005 11:43
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yes i get u now!!! i love them... i can't wait to have my MA61 to its true form! and fuck i love yer avatar gigante, i can't stop looking at it. where did u get it from ? i should get some for my GF! but she wears holden underwear cause she knows i dislike them!... bitch!
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January 2005
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Re: SW20 MR2 turbo VS JZA70 supra 2.5 TT
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Sun, 23 January 2005 12:19
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lolz tell me about it thats one fine ass!!!
just searching google and came across it, just lucky i guess...
if i had a gf and she wore holden underwear i would go to her..
"umm babe i dont think this relationship is gonna work.." hehehe
the only thing u can do is just take them off 
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January 2005
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Re: SW20 MR2 turbo VS JZA70 supra 2.5 TT
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Sun, 23 January 2005 12:22
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| TRD_Supra wrote on Sun, 23 January 2005 12:43 |
i can't wait to have my MA61 to its true form!
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is yours in the work shop or..?
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Re: SW20 MR2 turbo VS JZA70 supra 2.5 TT
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Sun, 23 January 2005 13:13
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| gigante wrote on Sun, 23 January 2005 23:19 |
lolz tell me about it thats one fine ass!!!
just searching google and came across it, just lucky i guess...
if i had a gf and she wore holden underwear i would go to her..
"umm babe i dont think this relationship is gonna work.." hehehe
the only thing u can do is just take them off
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she takes it off eventually.. but when we goto car shows and stuff.. she always makes fun of the cars i like and more so the toyota's i like.. she thinks i am too obsessed with cars.. I tell her its a healthy addiction! i spose its better to spend money on cars than drugs! mind u its also better to spend money on drugs than holdens!
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Re: SW20 MR2 turbo VS JZA70 supra 2.5 TT
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Sun, 23 January 2005 13:14
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| gigante wrote on Sun, 23 January 2005 23:22 |
| TRD_Supra wrote on Sun, 23 January 2005 12:43 |
i can't wait to have my MA61 to its true form!
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is yours in the work shop or..?
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Na not yet... i am still dragging the 5ME around with the MA61!! but hopefully end of this year in uni holidays i will have my much needed $10k and i will start on the JZA61 ! wat sort of car do u have btw gig ?
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November 2003
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Re: SW20 MR2 turbo VS JZA70 supra 2.5 TT
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Sun, 23 January 2005 22:52
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| gigante wrote on Sat, 22 January 2005 17:37 |
ive seen in japan some 600ps plus mr2z so them having a small engine bay might not be such an issue..
i guess alot of the power comes from internal rebiuld..
but ive also seen mr2s get 400ps plus with just bolt-on upgrades..
the engine bay is small but there is space for bigger turbo and cooler upgrades etc...
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I'm not talking about it being imposible to make good power 'cuz the engine bay is to small. I'm saying, it's very hard to work on the engine as the engine bay is so small. It'll take you twice as long to do anything on the MR2 as the JZA80 (at a guess). Plus I would imagine bolt on parts for the MR2 would be more expensive as they have to be made compact.
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October 2004
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Re: SW20 MR2 turbo VS JZA70 supra 2.5 TT
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Sun, 23 January 2005 23:20
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OH!!
Is the MR2 only a 2 Seater??? im talking the SW20
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Re: SW20 MR2 turbo VS JZA70 supra 2.5 TT
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Sun, 23 January 2005 23:33
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[/quote]! wat sort of car do u have btw gig ?[/quote]
i got nothing atm because im only 16 and still saving up for one..
im hoping at the end of the year or sometime next year with alot of hard work i should have enough or come close to buying either jza70 or gen3 mr2..
*writes letter to manager, "needes more shifts plzz"*
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January 2005
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Re: SW20 MR2 turbo VS JZA70 supra 2.5 TT
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Sun, 23 January 2005 23:35
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[/quote]I'm not talking about it being imposible to make good power 'cuz the engine bay is to small. I'm saying, it's very hard to work on the engine as the engine bay is so small. It'll take you twice as long to do anything on the MR2 as the JZA80 (at a guess). Plus I would imagine bolt on parts for the MR2 would be more expensive as they have to be made compact.[/quote]
very good points there!!! true also..
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Re: SW20 MR2 turbo VS JZA70 supra 2.5 TT
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Mon, 24 January 2005 00:14
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Hey, don't let that put you off if you have the extra time and money to work it (or you just wanna leave it fairly stock, as they're pretty mean stock anyway).
And alliance_22, all MR2s are two seater. With the mid mount engine, it's hard/impossible to fit back seats in. The only mid mount I know of with back seats is the McLauren F1.
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Re: SW20 MR2 turbo VS JZA70 supra 2.5 TT
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Mon, 24 January 2005 00:21
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ill see how things goes when the times comes...
but i rekon spending the extra money would pay off
its still a fight between the 2...
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Melbourne
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November 2003
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Re: SW20 MR2 turbo VS JZA70 supra 2.5 TT
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Mon, 24 January 2005 00:24
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Also, a JZA80 will be more cruisy. I hear the 2JZ-GTE can make 500hp all day long without breaking a sweat with a ton more torque than the little 3S-GTE.
Besides, are you actualy gonna get these cars up to that much power? I doubt it somehow. It's too expensive in Australia (I hate this country sometimes). And I don't think it's gonna be street legal with all that power.
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Re: SW20 MR2 turbo VS JZA70 supra 2.5 TT
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Mon, 24 January 2005 00:53
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the very most i would wont would be around 500hp (as the final result)..
i have a family friend who works on performance cars and with a bit of money (10grand and on..) he can make some serious power out of both..
at his work they biult a 7m-gte powereed mk3 up to 450 - 500hp with a 8 grand budget for a customer..
i would probably start spending money and making power when im off my Pz and saved plenty of money...
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Re: SW20 MR2 turbo VS JZA70 supra 2.5 TT
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Mon, 24 January 2005 01:06
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Remember with that much power, you'r gonna need a day drive too.
450hp out of a 7M on an 8K budget? I doubt that engine/turbo/gearbox is gonna last very long. 8K doesn't seem nearly enough to get that kinda power safely out of that engine. How longs it been running? I'd give it 6 months before it needs a rebuild/new block, new turbo, or new gearbox.
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Re: SW20 MR2 turbo VS JZA70 supra 2.5 TT
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Mon, 24 January 2005 01:50
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I vote gen3 mr2... you can get huge power out of them.
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that i cant agree with... bolt on mods yup gen 3 there is more availbe power they are dead = if we are talking about big power like 400hp + @ wheels.
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Re: SW20 MR2 turbo VS JZA70 supra 2.5 TT
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Mon, 24 January 2005 02:55
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| Shraka wrote on Mon, 24 January 2005 02:06 |
Remember with that much power, you'r gonna need a day drive too.
450hp out of a 7M on an 8K budget? I doubt that engine/turbo/gearbox is gonna last very long. 8K doesn't seem nearly enough to get that kinda power safely out of that engine. How longs it been running? I'd give it 6 months before it needs a rebuild/new block, new turbo, or new gearbox.
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im pritty sure it was done round the start of 04 and im pritty sure everything is still running fine..
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Re: SW20 MR2 turbo VS JZA70 supra 2.5 TT
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Mon, 24 January 2005 06:43
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i still recomment a JZA61.. it would beat both!
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Re: SW20 MR2 turbo VS JZA70 supra 2.5 TT
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Mon, 24 January 2005 07:44
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I've got a pretty quick JZA61 now, but a JZA70 would look way more cruisy, and it'll be easier to do than a JZA61 given you don't need to worry about doing the swap and getting it engineered.
I'd suggest getting a JZA70 though, only cause I loved my MA70 
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Re: SW20 MR2 turbo VS JZA70 supra 2.5 TT
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Mon, 24 January 2005 08:28
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i would recommend buying a yacht if u wish to go for the cruisy approach
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January 2005
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Re: SW20 MR2 turbo VS JZA70 supra 2.5 TT
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Mon, 24 January 2005 12:36
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yeah i probably wouldnt have enough time to do an engine swap so thats why i got my eye on the jza70..
see how things go...
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Re: SW20 MR2 turbo VS JZA70 supra 2.5 TT
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Tue, 25 January 2005 00:32
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try looking for a JZA61 then.. Do u prefer the MA61 shape or the MA70 shape ?
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Re: SW20 MR2 turbo VS JZA70 supra 2.5 TT
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Tue, 25 January 2005 06:41
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i like both shapes alot but i got the soft spot for the ma70..
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Re: SW20 MR2 turbo VS JZA70 supra 2.5 TT
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Tue, 25 January 2005 06:42
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| alliance_22 wrote on Mon, 24 January 2005 10:20 |
OH!!
Is the MR2 only a 2 Seater??? im talking the SW20
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[M]iddle engine + [R]ear Wheel Drive + [2]seater = [M][R][2]
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January 2005
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Re: SW20 MR2 turbo VS JZA70 supra 2.5 TT
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Tue, 25 January 2005 07:10
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i think someone sent that earlier lolz..
its ll good..
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Re: SW20 MR2 turbo VS JZA70 supra 2.5 TT
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Wed, 26 January 2005 13:01
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ok a found a pic!!
its not at the best angle but u should be able to get the idea...
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Re: SW20 MR2 turbo VS JZA70 supra 2.5 TT
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Wed, 26 January 2005 16:32
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SW20, or, if you want more performanced based... go an aw11 with a few more mods for the same price, older, but, if done right, faster!
supras are great, but MR2's are my dream, along with the MISFIT Celica (DROOL!)
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Re: SW20 MR2 turbo VS JZA70 supra 2.5 TT
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Thu, 27 January 2005 02:01
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the aw11z rnt my favourite car...
ive red good thing about them but the sw20 has more to offer...
i guess thats because its a newer model but they do also cost alot more...
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Re: SW20 MR2 turbo VS JZA70 supra 2.5 TT
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Thu, 27 January 2005 04:50
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| gigante wrote on Thu, 27 January 2005 00:01 |
ok a found a pic!!
its not at the best angle but u should be able to get the idea...
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This was the bloody american's quote!!!
My bad!
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January 2005
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Re: SW20 MR2 turbo VS JZA70 supra 2.5 TT
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Thu, 27 January 2005 09:29
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yeah it was built in america, i think it pulled like a 10sec 1/4 mile or some shit...
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Re: SW20 MR2 turbo VS JZA70 supra 2.5 TT
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Thu, 27 January 2005 21:42
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its an american supra... not only can u see its LHD, but see the small lip spoiler right at the back of the hatch panel.... American Only!
and 10 secs.... pfffftttt my MA61 with a 5ME could do that  maybe 6 or 7 seconds slower tho!
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Melbourne
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January 2005
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Fri, 28 January 2005 06:47
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LOLzz anythings possible!!
TRD_supra... LHD..?!?
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Adelaide
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Re: SW20 MR2 turbo VS JZA70 supra 2.5 TT
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Fri, 28 January 2005 07:20
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You want a 206kw car for your first car!?!? I hope you can drive ok! Get the Supra!
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