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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Sun, 16 January 2005 15:30
 
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why drive all the way to ricol in syd for tune??
what do they specialise in? just EMS?
and kellam is the man! 
and why didnt you holler me bitch? i was bored as shit on sat nite
(ps, how the FUCK are you affording a century and a full-house AE86 (with own trailer no less)?)
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Sun, 16 January 2005 20:33
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why drive all the way to ricol in syd for tune??
what do they specialise in? just EMS?
and kellam is the man!
and why didnt you holler me bitch? i was bored as shit on sat nite
(ps, how the FUCK are you affording a century and a full-house AE86 (with own trailer no less)?)
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Yes Garth, they DO specialise in EMS, plus they have been the only people i have seen consistantly able to nicely tune Quad throttle setups at a reasonable cost, and the jobs ive seen them do have all been spot on.Plus they are members of initial Drift, as am I and they always look after members.... Besides, there simply is not anybody on the gold coast or in brisbane with whom i would trust the tune, simple..... and the fact that next weekend is wakefield, so the car was gonna be down that way anyways..........
and the money came from the sale of my beloved( if well and truely abused and broken) SW20 turbo. (read trust cooler, GT3040 high mount, Blitz computer, crazy interior)
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Mon, 17 January 2005 14:11
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Yes Garth, they DO specialise in EMS, plus they have been the only people i have seen consistantly able to nicely tune Quad throttle setups at a reasonable cost, and the jobs ive seen them do have all been spot on.Plus they are members of initial Drift, as am I and they always look after members.... Besides, there simply is not anybody on the gold coast or in brisbane with whom i would trust the tune, simple..... and the fact that next weekend is wakefield, so the car was gonna be down that way anyways..........
and the money came from the sale of my beloved( if well and truely abused and broken) SW20 turbo. (read trust cooler, GT3040 high mount, Blitz computer, crazy interior)
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ahh how much for tune?
and how much for ems installed ?
and now im glad they are right near me!
whats happenning at wakefield?
im going to oran for nite drifts on the 28th.. u be here then?
ahh i remember now, what a better investment eh?
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Mon, 17 January 2005 20:29
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nah will be in adelaide for the nats round four that weekend, but it should be fun all the same. yeh the mr was a more comfortable and faster by far, but the hachi is a way better car for drift/jigh speed mountains, can be quicker anywhere than i ever could in the mr2...
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Mon, 17 January 2005 21:17
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| mr2drift wrote on Tue, 18 January 2005 06:59 |
nah will be in adelaide for the nats round four that weekend.
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Good shit! 
| mr2drift wrote on Tue, 18 January 2005 06:59 |
the hachi is a way better car for drift/jigh speed mountains
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so true
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Wed, 19 January 2005 12:57
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NEVER TRUST AN ENGINE BUILDER TO BE ON TIME
because of a 2 week delay at christmas i now look to miss not only fats drift day at oran last week, but also initial drift comp at wakefield this week,and maybe even adelaide next week, VERY fukn angry now
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Thu, 20 January 2005 07:25
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is the new ems working properly or havent you pluged it in to find out. 
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Thu, 20 January 2005 07:56
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yeh runs fine, just as soon as the oil gets to running temp, oil leaks from multiple spots on sump, so its not gonna be running for the next 2 comps i was planning on, and therefore 6 months of hard slog worth nothing, as the next comps im gonna run are in april, may as well have just taken my time with it.....
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Thu, 20 January 2005 10:34
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Sucks dude, but it'll all be worth it when you wind that bitch out for the first time.
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Fri, 21 January 2005 04:31
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Hi,
Your car is looking sweet, keep the pictures coming.
From outside and a few interior pics too.
Are you happy with the fit and finish of the streeter kit and does he now sell fiberglass versions of your guards?
Thanks.
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Fri, 21 January 2005 11:25
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| mr2drift wrote on Thu, 20 January 2005 18:56 |
yeh runs fine, just as soon as the oil gets to running temp, oil leaks from multiple spots on sump, so its not gonna be running for the next 2 comps i was planning on, and therefore 6 months of hard slog worth nothing, as the next comps im gonna run are in april, may as well have just taken my time with it.....
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re-gasket and new sump pan?
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Sat, 22 January 2005 00:52
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thats crap friend. sorry to hear it. if there is anything any of us toymoders can do mdont hesitate to ask!
im sure that it will be up in the mountains when it get done. comp or no comp, the huchi must be driven.
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Sun, 23 January 2005 09:17
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damn
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Sun, 23 January 2005 09:28
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on the posative side tho, from the sound of it with the rough tune Colin had in it, its gonna be an absoloute animal when it finally is sorted out.
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Sun, 23 January 2005 09:43
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man, cant wait 12 months for my engine build
damn me and my "it must be JDM" attitude
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Sun, 23 January 2005 09:45
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man, cant wait 12 months for my engine build
damn me and my "it must be JDM" attitude
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lol such a waste of hard earned dollars man. local stuff will do the same job........ 
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Sun, 23 January 2005 09:45
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| mr2drift wrote on Sun, 23 January 2005 20:45 |
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man, cant wait 12 months for my engine build
damn me and my "it must be JDM" attitude
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lol such a waste of hard earned dollars man. local stuff will do the same job........
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yeah i know, but i know so much about JDM parts and so little about local stuff
meh
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Sun, 23 January 2005 09:52
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hahahaha same stuff just cheaper man
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Sun, 23 January 2005 09:52
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hahahaha same stuff just cheaper man
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Mon, 24 January 2005 01:59
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| mr2drift wrote on Sun, 23 January 2005 20:45 |
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man, cant wait 12 months for my engine build
damn me and my "it must be JDM" attitude
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lol such a waste of hard earned dollars man. local stuff will do the same job........
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yeah i know, but i know so much about JDM parts and so little about local stuff
meh
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HAHAHA... Here we go again.....
I can't wait to race you when our engine's are finished Garth. Yours with all that fandangled JDM stuff, and mine with mostly local/US parts.
It gonna be fuuuuun..... 
P.S. Who cares if you don't know anything about parts that aren't 'JDM'??? Are you building the engine??? If you have a good engine builder, you won't have to know shit.
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Mon, 24 January 2005 05:34
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| AE86slut wrote on Mon, 24 January 2005 12:59 |
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| mr2drift wrote on Sun, 23 January 2005 20:45 |
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man, cant wait 12 months for my engine build
damn me and my "it must be JDM" attitude
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lol such a waste of hard earned dollars man. local stuff will do the same job........
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yeah i know, but i know so much about JDM parts and so little about local stuff
meh
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HAHAHA... Here we go again.....
I can't wait to race you when our engine's are finished Garth. Yours with all that fandangled JDM stuff, and mine with mostly local/US parts.
It gonna be fuuuuun.....
P.S. Who cares if you don't know anything about parts that aren't 'JDM'??? Are you building the engine??? If you have a good engine builder, you won't have to know shit.
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it will be interesting 16v vs 20v
both with 304 cams with 9mm lift?
both with uprated valvetrain to suit lift
both with no VVTi
both with forged pistons
both with 0.8mm headgasket
both with 101 throttles to air
both with afternmarket ECU (im going for EMS after josh's reccomendation)
both with head porting jobs and valveseating jobs (im assuming)
will be interesting for sure
and i like to know the parts compatibility with eachother, not just rely on paying someont to know. like josh has done and (unfortunatly) gotten burnt.
[Updated on: Mon, 24 January 2005 05:38]
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Tue, 25 January 2005 02:08
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Yeah, pretty much the same set-up, except I'll be running Autronic or Motec..... Was going to go EMS, but have changed my mind after research.
The guy who is building mine builds a lot of clubman engines, a few of which have more power than the stroker 4AGE's that a lot of the dudes are building now...... His 4 year old engines are still making just as much power as they were when first built. One of his 20v's is making around 160rwhp. It's not a really extreme engine and is using only a mild exhaust cam.
I probably won't go as far as 304 cams as they are not really needed for the power I'm chasing (185-190rwhp). Redline will not increase past 8,500 either. I'll still be using VVT.
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Tue, 25 January 2005 06:42
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why not the EMS? not enough tuning resolution?
motec setups can only be has with 2000+ worth of equipment, far too expensive for a road car...
autronic seem to be the next best bet, but their gear is almost as exxy
EMS seems to be working well for a few ppl, that or a 4A-GE power fc (in my dreams)
i havent decided on a builder yet, maybe ill check this guy out?
does he deal in 16v? i would imagine so.
you getting mismatched cams with vvt? gunna be a cunt to tune.
and 190rwhp is optimistic at that redline mang.
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Tue, 25 January 2005 07:16
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| AE86slut wrote on Tue, 25 January 2005 13:08 |
Yeah, pretty much the same set-up, except I'll be running Autronic or Motec..... Was going to go EMS, but have changed my mind after research.
The guy who is building mine builds a lot of clubman engines, a few of which have more power than the stroker 4AGE's that a lot of the dudes are building now...... His 4 year old engines are still making just as much power as they were when first built. One of his 20v's is making around 160rwhp. It's not a really extreme engine and is using only a mild exhaust cam.
I probably won't go as far as 304 cams as they are not really needed for the power I'm chasing (185-190rwhp). Redline will not increase past 8,500 either. I'll still be using VVT.
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you do realise that 160 rwhp is far above the output of a formula atlantic motor, that runs around 220 FLYWHEEL horsepower. 185-195 rwhp would definately require some type of forced induction, dunno whos figures youve been looking at dude, but they are way out....
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Tue, 25 January 2005 07:19
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and for the record garth, ive not been burnt by any aussie/local parts, just the laziness of a certain engine guilder in the part of properly sealing a few(well heck every) seal on the outside of my engine, components are fine..
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Tue, 25 January 2005 07:38
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| ae86drift wrote on Tue, 25 January 2005 17:42 |
why not the EMS? not enough tuning resolution?
motec setups can only be has with 2000+ worth of equipment, far too expensive for a road car...
autronic seem to be the next best bet, but their gear is almost as exxy
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Because I'm spending a lot of money on this engine, and I wouldn't feel right running it on anything but the best I could get.
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i havent decided on a builder yet, maybe ill check this guy out?
does he deal in 16v? i would imagine so.
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Yep, he mainly does 4AGE (16 or 20V) race engines.
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you getting mismatched cams with vvt? gunna be a cunt to tune.
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Nope, prolly 288deg cams with VVT
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and 190rwhp is optimistic at that redline mang.
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Not really.
Anyway, that's the last you'll hear about my engine until it's finished...... It will make in the vicinity of 185-190rwhp - mark my words
So getting back on topic - what's the go with your guards Josh? Did Ken make a mould of them or what?
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Tue, 25 January 2005 07:43
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| mr2drift wrote on Tue, 25 January 2005 18:16 |
dunno whos figures youve been looking at dude, but they are way out....
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I haven't been looking at any figures man.... I've been talking to very reputable engine builders - The same people who are building my engine..... Trust me, these ppl would not bullshit about power figures.
As I said - I'm not discussing the engine anymore. I'll post up the dyno sheet after it's first power runs.
Bear in mind this is not a cheap backyard build guys. It's costing me a LOT of money for the power figures I want. And before you say "Just whack on a turbo" that's not what I want. Everyone has a turbo these days.
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Tue, 25 January 2005 07:55
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| AE86slut wrote on Tue, 25 January 2005 18:13 |
And before you say "Just whack on a turbo" that's not what I want. Everyone has a turbo these days.
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Your a legend jeremy, go the NA!
oh yes and what of these guards of yours josh, if kens moulded em how much a pair?
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Tue, 25 January 2005 08:14
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Ennn Aye all the way! Good to see all you guys agree
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Tue, 25 January 2005 09:12
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not disputing the right way to guild it, but plain and simple man, 190-rwhp is just not achievable in na trim man unless you plan to pull it down and rebuild it every 500km's or so, its just not a real figure, flywhell yes, rw, no
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Tue, 25 January 2005 09:22
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| mr2drift wrote on Tue, 25 January 2005 20:12 |
not disputing the right way to guild it, but plain and simple man, 190-rwhp is just not achievable in na trim man unless you plan to pull it down and rebuild it every 500km's or so, its just not a real figure, flywhell yes, rw, no
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Fair enough man.
I guess these guys building it better put their skills where their mouth is then!
It makes around 127rwhp at the moment. They've gotta take my money and turn it into 60rwhp/75flyweheel.
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Mon, 31 January 2005 23:44
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finally some good news! all the minor leaks and fu..ups the engine builder made have been sorted , and the car goes on the dyno for its tune this afternoon. a HUGE thanks to colin at ricol for his patience in sorting out a multitude of hassles that were caused by someone else, and fingers crossed for some figures by the end of the day... maybe even a short vid clip if we are lucky.
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Tue, 01 February 2005 00:06
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ae86slut, one of my mates had jus 20v rebuilt with 304 degree cams, the usual stuff inside, and was running his old microtech and just managed 120kw @ wheels NA, then with a motec maybe push a bit more since that ecu was restricting the engines true potential, as they had to set the rev limit on 6000rpm before due to ecu and the fuel, with the motec they are able to push it to probably 9-10,000rpm to truly unleash the engines power.
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Thu, 03 February 2005 09:54
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josh just stopped by on his way home with the pink beast towed behind the pimp century
OMG it is insane, that pink looks so damn good, it cant be beat! and when he started it up the sound of the engine brought a tear to my eye.
cant wait to see this thing out on the track sliding on the limiter all day long.
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Fri, 04 February 2005 16:05
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ok the good and bad news..... car runs like an animal. power is like i said, on shootout mode it got 125hp at the tyres, so around 155 hp at the fly i guess, but the thing is the torque, it just defys logic. when the motor was setup, the guy building it told me i would not get auge hp figure as it is, but have oodles of torque. guess what? he was spot on. its maniac. spins up thirds without a thought, and the cat omg the car is awsome. gonna take a few weeks to get used to it i guess. had my first drive in anger. on the roads around the back of the gold coast where we normally run, i was unable to use third gear as i used to, as it just started sliding at will abouve 6000rpm, quite offputting at ...well fast speed on mountain roads. will have to learn my car again for sure. now the bad news.............
when i was at my tyre shop this afternoon, had an alignment done on the car, and took it round the blosck to test it out, and lo and behold, i forgot to pin down the bonnet....... guess what happened next......... yep nice schmick vented bonnet all over the screen and roof.... it doesnt look quite as good now still the car is for sure an animal, and will definately be worth the effort once i have the guts to use all of its craziness. will get some pics of the stupid damage in the daylight tomorrow.... 
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Sat, 05 February 2005 00:34
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Thats got to make you a sad panda
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Sat, 05 February 2005 00:47
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VIDEO US!!!!! THIS ISN"T FAIR!!!!
Im drooling at the thought of the pink beast....
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Sat, 05 February 2005 00:59
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| mr2drift wrote on Sat, 05 February 2005 02:35 |
i forgot to pin down the bonnet....... guess what happened next......... yep nice schmick vented bonnet all over the screen and roof....
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Good one 'shane'... 
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Sat, 05 February 2005 01:07
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that sucks about the bonnet dude, it dont have to look good to be fast to silde well though  I think simon has proved that
Congratulations on getting it running, any idea how much tourque its actually making?
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Sat, 05 February 2005 01:43
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Enough torque that it pulls away quicker in 5th than a stock 4age in 3rd.
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Sat, 05 February 2005 05:27
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| mumblezzz wrote on Sat, 05 February 2005 12:43 |
Enough torque that it pulls away quicker in 5th than a stock 4age in 3rd.
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as paul found out last night
who knows man,its not actually on the dyno sheet i got, but trust me, it pulls like a freight train...
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Sat, 05 February 2005 06:45
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yeah but its only got 155 hp at fly.....
haha awesome work dude who cares about peak power, torque is what spins the wheels anyway
so, wakefield park hey
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Sat, 05 February 2005 08:07
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omg omg omg i want to see wat all this torque is about , wouldn't mind seeing it at QR ay? you coming to the next dori day 13th i think...?
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Sat, 05 February 2005 16:03
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| Simon-AE86 wrote on Sat, 05 February 2005 17:45 |
yeah but its only got 155 hp at fly.....
haha awesome work dude who cares about peak power, torque is what spins the wheels anyway
so, wakefield park hey
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i hope wakefield is a go. have heard about it from you simon, beau, as well as mike spencer in the yellow ca onvia, but as yet have had no official invite.............
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Sun, 06 February 2005 01:51
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email trent asap josh
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Sun, 06 February 2005 09:59
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email sent, and just for the record, it slides like an animal, very impressive for n/a sooo happy with it
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Sun, 06 February 2005 10:20
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theres probably a 2 foot deep pool of drool around my pc right now
I'm very curious to see the dynograph, would love to see the torque band of this engine
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Wed, 09 February 2005 02:19
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looks sweet,
Got to get some drift action ASAP,
Scott
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October 2004
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Sydney, shire
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June 2004
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Wed, 09 February 2005 07:49
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awww man i cant get over this car i love it so much. We need more pics!!
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Location:
Adelaide
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January 2004
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Wed, 09 February 2005 07:57
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Look out, its the josh young fan club
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Location:
Central Coast
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October 2004
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Wed, 09 February 2005 08:49
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hahhaha fan club. passing the time admiring others till my car arrives
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Location:
qld
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October 2003
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Sat, 12 February 2005 00:03
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the cars been out having shake down runs thru the week, and am happy to say the more i drive it the better it gets, hehe last night managed to out accelerate an sr20 turbo 180 up hills through the gold coast hinterland, so it has plenty o poke ( although the fact that during the week i took it to the weighbridge and discovered that the car with half a tank of fuel weighs in at an anorexic 880kg may have a bit to do with performance as well), and the potential is showing itself more and more, each time i drive it i get more used to it and able to use the car more like it should!
today is prep work for the driftzone day at QR tomorrow, for its firt "public" appearance, so heres hoping all goes well!
hopefully will get some more pics of the car on the track, and even some video footage if i can host it.....
[Updated on: Sat, 12 February 2005 00:04]
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I supported Toymods
Location:
sydney.au
Registered:
August 2002
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Sat, 12 February 2005 00:46
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| Arch wrote on Sat, 05 February 2005 11:59 |
| mr2drift wrote on Sat, 05 February 2005 02:35 |
i forgot to pin down the bonnet....... guess what happened next......... yep nice schmick vented bonnet all over the screen and roof....
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Good one 'shane'...
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bwahhahahha
nice.
what you doing about the new bonnet?
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Location:
qld
Registered:
October 2003
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Sat, 12 February 2005 01:06
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meh, its a drift car man, the bent one still looks the goods, and CBF makin another one at the moment, so it stauys cracked and bent.... hahahahaha
do have another standard , straight bonnet in the shed, but dont have another vent as yet, so it will have to wait for the time being, may even just paint up the standard bonnet, as with the vent, the cooling on the car is so good, that even when drifting, water temp just reaches 80 degrees, so it may as well be normal!
will take some picsof the smaller little things that have gone into the car today, as well as the bent bonnet, and post em tonight i guess
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Location:
Melbourne
Registered:
November 2003
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Sat, 12 February 2005 03:27
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mr2drift ur my hero , all i need is 2 paint my car pink and get some SSR's so my car will look jst like urs !
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Location:
QLD
Registered:
October 2004
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Sat, 12 February 2005 04:44
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Ahhh... So your going to be making an appearance at the driftday on sunday (tomorrow) hey... I'll be there in my black 86. I love this pink car hahaha 
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