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I supported Toymods Banned User
Location: Brisbane
Registered: May 2002
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Re: What should i get next....
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Wed, 16 February 2005 02:29
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improvedae86 wrote on Wed, 16 February 2005 12:07 | Hey cool1 , read again what you posted " The conversion is already under way. " does that not spell out YOUR doing the conversion Yeah you not going to prove it right .
What about the corner weighing in rallying , some large holes are appearing in your story
"You think a car modification is all about painting your car white with a black bonnet." what drug are you on ? You really haven't read any post of mine and must be confusing me with some else I have lost count of how many cars i have been a part of there conversions .
http://forums.toymods.org.au/index.php?t=msg&t h=58826&start=0&rid=1935&S=efc9f4516d7 258b2f65b92dbbcf8fc5f
3 weeks full time , mostly waiting for parts to arrive , about 3 1/2 months dialing the set up while still driving it maybe a few saturday morning here and there . Touched it once in a year . And the bonnets not black yet if that gives better lap times .
Thats why my point with your ridiculous conversion is , the time spent in building the st165 rwd and money . Only to find thats its a complete pile of crap in the end whilst everyone else has built cheaper cars which work better .
I will give you a example : the runner up in the 2 litre sports sedans two years ago has been out of the competition for 1 1/2 years building a new motor set up and altering the car suspension . The engine has been build from scratch lots of times chasing the 150hp per litre mark , and the body has been altered for a lower ride height , the caster geometry has been changed and maybe some rewiring . After one day a weekend and nights during the week the car finally gets to the track again . Guess what its only 2 seconds quicker .
If the time spent working on the car was spent on driving the car the same time would have been achieved maybe .
Even sometime the best of ideas don't produce the desired result , so there no way a crap idea will ever produce a good result . And a idea with no previous history to back up it could even work .
Gt love that idea , especially the Microleb electronic carby cool1 might need one in 2050 when the st165 rwd is finished .
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I still dont see where I said I was doing the 165 RWD conversion?
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Location: nsw
Registered: May 2002
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Re: What should i get next....
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Wed, 16 February 2005 02:33
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cool1, i dont know you as well as i know adam, and i dont normally throw my five cents in a battle for no reason, but to call adam, ie improv86 a takumi wannabe and that he needs a black bonnet is a clear insult i know u cant back up. read his post on the 86 he built. then come back with an informed opinion.
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I supported Toymods Banned User
Location: Brisbane
Registered: May 2002
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Re: What should i get next....
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Wed, 16 February 2005 03:04
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Why is it wrong to say what I said when he is saying the things he said about me?
Just because I don't get to work on my car full time doesn't mean I don't know what I'm doing.
And because you and that kid don't know me you also wouldn't know that I get to hang around a workshop and play with these other cars.
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I supported Toymods Banned User
Location: Brisbane
Registered: May 2002
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Re: What should i get next....
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Wed, 16 February 2005 03:07
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And the comment about the black bonnet wasn't really meant to be an insult, I really meant that doing a simple engine conversion is completely different to fully redesigning and modifying everything on a car like I am doing.
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Location: Melbourne
Registered: January 2003
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Re: What should i get next....
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Wed, 16 February 2005 06:04
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You fold like a deck chair cool1
If you don't see that you writing " The conversion is already under way. " if this is not meant to say you are doing this conversion maybe you should have re-phrased it " i know a mate of mate of mate's dog which is thinking of doing a st165 rwd conversion " because that would have been closer to the truth .
Then as people started questioning your conversion you reverted to " Bullshit " etc and just turning to plainly insulting people calling then "kids" etc
You don't have a shred of worth while reasoning behind any of your post even going down the path of corner weighing rally cars please . If you think i was insulting you ability i time and time again asked you for proof of the ability to perform this magical conversion which you are so set on being a drift monster .
Constant digs at people owning ae86's being Takumi wanabees , What are you worried about if people like the car because of initial d , or the fact it won the group A wrc class or many of its only victory's . Or yes the fact its is a favorite with drifters . Why does it make you insecure about the fact that the ta22 was tried in motorsport ? if you are reader of classic car magazine you can read the views of the guys who drove them at the time .
As far as the redesigning the car as you have what does this run of the mill conversion :
1974 Multi-coloured TA22
Recaro seats
Alloy drop tank
Gen 3 3S-GTE
W58 Supra box
RN27 Hilux Diff with MA70 Disk brakes
Which if you did a hour of searching your might come up with a step by step guide to those modifications in up to three languages vs a st165 rwd which you will find jack
I finishing this i have seen you get on your high horse and bag people so many time taking non one of there ideas or facts into mind , dismissing them as stupid and stooping to stupid insults.
I have seen you warned a few time by the moderators of this forum but when you take it so personally its far to easy to prove you wrong . You really are your worst enemy in most cases and i feel sorry how many people might have been put of doing something i most cases by you misinformed view . So as from now i will take special attention to you posts so you better think before you post such crap in the future .
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I supported Toymods Banned User
Location: Brisbane
Registered: May 2002
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Re: What should i get next....
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Wed, 16 February 2005 06:57
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Man are you dreaming or what? I never said I was doing the RWD 165 conversion, nor did I say I was the rallying expert! The person doing this RWD conversion is the rally expert and I just do the wiring.
And now who is the insecure one? I couldn't care less if someone says "another TA22 owner" or some such shit. So why would you get so upset about me saying shit about 86's with white paint and black bonnets.
And if you think the only mods to my car are what is in my sig, may be you should pay attention to more of my posts.
Also if you have such a problem with me bagging people on the Internet, maybe you should get of it. The Internet or anything on it is not something to be taken seriously. If you do take it seriously you need some mental help.
Last but not least, I don't take anything personally on here. I find this one big game trying to sucker people in and make them argue. I would bet there are a few people that know me reading this laughing at the fact that you just keep biting and biting.
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Location: Melbourne
Registered: January 2003
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Location: Rocky Mountains, Canada
Registered: May 2002
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Location: Melbourne
Registered: January 2003
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Re: What should i get next....
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Wed, 16 February 2005 08:01
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M.W.P you might have come in the middle of this , maybe read the first page , its not using any existing drive-line parts
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I supported Toymods
Location: Adelaide
Registered: July 2004
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Re: What should i get next....
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Wed, 16 February 2005 08:10
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M.W.P. wrote on Wed, 16 February 2005 18:29 |
improvedae86 wrote on Wed, 16 February 2005 18:17 |
But really the rwd st165 what where you smoking , turn a front wheel drive car to rear wheel drive to be used in a destructive type of motorsport , maybe built into a space frame chassis with a unlimited budget.
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ST165 is 4WD = it already has the tunnels, etc for RWD.
I think a drifting RWD ST165 is a great idea!
Would definatley be somthing different.
AE86 drift car has been done to death... they are not special anymore, no matter whats under the bonnet.
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its not about being special, its about being competitive...
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I supported Toymods Banned User
Location: Brisbane
Registered: May 2002
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Re: What should i get next....
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Wed, 16 February 2005 08:41
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M.W.P. wrote on Wed, 16 February 2005 17:59 |
improvedae86 wrote on Wed, 16 February 2005 18:17 |
But really the rwd st165 what where you smoking , turn a front wheel drive car to rear wheel drive to be used in a destructive type of motorsport , maybe built into a space frame chassis with a unlimited budget.
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ST165 is 4WD = it already has the tunnels, etc for RWD.
I think a drifting RWD ST165 is a great idea!
Would definatley be somthing different.
AE86 drift car has been done to death... they are not special anymore, no matter whats under the bonnet.
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I'm glad at least one other person on here knows what an ST165 is.
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Location: ADELAIDE - The Drift City
Registered: July 2002
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Re: What should i get next....
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Wed, 16 February 2005 10:51
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hey whats with the bickering...
yet to decide... decision made soon. either way it will have a toyota engine
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Location: Melbourne
Registered: January 2003
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Re: What should i get next....
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Wed, 16 February 2005 11:25
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Cool1 wrote on Wed, 16 February 2005 04:41 |
M.W.P. wrote on Wed, 16 February 2005 17:59 |
improvedae86 wrote on Wed, 16 February 2005 18:17 |
But really the rwd st165 what where you smoking , turn a front wheel drive car to rear wheel drive to be used in a destructive type of motorsport , maybe built into a space frame chassis with a unlimited budget.
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ST165 is 4WD = it already has the tunnels, etc for RWD.
I think a drifting RWD ST165 is a great idea!
Would definatley be somthing different.
AE86 drift car has been done to death... they are not special anymore, no matter whats under the bonnet.
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I'm glad at least one other person on here knows what an ST165 is.
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Yes a tunnel for a drive-shaft , not a w series gearbox or have we changed our mind about that as well . Still no comment on the earlier post i see
Toyota motor hey Simon , theres a guy who has just started posing on this site from Melbourne building a 2ZZ-GE to rear wheel drive w series box conversion , but its going into a ae86 not a st185 platform . Might be worth a look at if cost wasn't a option for something different . There supercharge kits available for those motors now but a big budget sponsor would be needed to pay for that ..
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Location: Ballarat, Victoria
Registered: March 2003
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Re: What should i get next....
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Wed, 16 February 2005 11:47
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i'd go the soarer....
or even an ra60 with 1ggte?
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Registered: October 2004
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Re: What should i get next....
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Wed, 16 February 2005 12:13
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woah... not to interupt your argument, but settle down girls. can't you do this over p.m?
it's not about what car simon's getting anymore lol
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Location: Sydney
Registered: August 2004
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Re: What should i get next....
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Wed, 16 February 2005 21:56
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WOOOOAAAAH> GEEZUZ!!
The kids are at it!
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Location: SA
Registered: May 2002
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: July 2002
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Re: What should i get next....
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Sun, 20 February 2005 15:16
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Go an mz10 or gz10 soarer.. soarer looks and a lot lighter than the 20 series, 1jz goes in as easy as an ma61.. if its good enough for d1 people. im sure it would go okay
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Location: St James, Perth
Registered: June 2004
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Re: What should i get next....
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Sun, 20 February 2005 16:56
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If you decide to not go with a toyota, may I suggest a Nissan Laurel? It's a little different, but I have heard that it is a good drift platform.
Can't argue with a drifting sprinter sitting on a 10,000 rpm rev limiter though; it is sooooo awesome!
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Toymods Vice President
Location: Sydney
Registered: May 2002
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Re: What should i get next....
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Sun, 20 February 2005 22:00
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Alright enough of the bitch fights. If you want to argue the merits of a specific conversion with a specific person feel free to do it in privacy but keep it off the forum.
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