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HyDrA
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icon5.gif  Smokey off idle Thu, 17 February 2005 23:31 Go to next message
Hi all,

Just before I delve too far into some work laid out for me by my car i just want to confirm I have things right.

A bit white/blueish cloud of smoke from the exhaust off idle indicates what exactly? It's OK just driving around, but say taking off from the lights, it seems to smoke. It may have smoked on boost too, but I don't really look behind me at that point Razz

Could it be the turbo oil seals? Head gasket? Confused

Just need to make sure i'm going the right way with all this...
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Re: Smokey off idle Thu, 17 February 2005 23:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
running rich my friend.

if you can get it on a dyno and try clean up the airfuel ratios by dicking around with the fuel pressure timing or a/f meter...

all them things can afect the a/f ratios.

hell for some reason my car was running like absolute shit until I got the a/f meter played with a bit.
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HyDrA
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Re: Smokey off idle Thu, 17 February 2005 23:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Not when it smells like oil!!

And it's only just started to happen... Confused

Car runs perfectly, otherwise...

[Updated on: Thu, 17 February 2005 23:39]

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Re: Smokey off idle Fri, 18 February 2005 00:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Valve stem seals maybe?.
I have a similar problem in my Cressida. Sit at the lights for more than 30 seconds and a big puff of smoke comes out the back on take off. I put new seals on the exhaust side last week which has mostly fixed the problem but I still need to change the intake side still.
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Re: Smokey off idle Fri, 18 February 2005 00:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I did consider that...

It does fit the description...
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Re: Smokey off idle Fri, 18 February 2005 03:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hmmm maybe I should just find a replacement head + turbos Confused
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Re: Smokey off idle Fri, 18 February 2005 04:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Puff @ idle take off is valvestem seals.

The longer you idle for, the worse it is?

Turbo seals = puff under boost (but could also be rings)
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HyDrA
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Re: Smokey off idle Fri, 18 February 2005 04:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Thats what i'm thinking...

Hmmm.... Might talk to a head rebuilding shop.
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Re: Smokey off idle Fri, 18 February 2005 05:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
if it is smoking when you re-apply the throttle after long periods of high vacuum, ie. idling or going down a big hill, then its your valve stem seals.
if it smokes pretty much all the time or when under load then its probably your rings.

it could also be both...
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Re: Smokey off idle Fri, 18 February 2005 09:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
We're talking enough smoke to hide my car and blind drivers for a few seconds as they drive through it. It seems to happen after idling or similar... I just jumped the gun a bit with the turbo's I guess Smile

Anyone know a good workshop to get head work done in Adelaide? Razz

And anyone know how to get those damn turbos off... the heatshields behind the turbo (against the block) are real bitches!
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Re: Smokey off idle Sat, 19 February 2005 02:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
rings. my pajero does this exact same thing. lots of smoke after idling for a while and a little bit under load, lost compression/throttle response.
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Re: Smokey off idle Sat, 19 February 2005 02:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
A compression test will soon tell you if it's rings.
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HyDrA
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Re: Smokey off idle Sat, 19 February 2005 02:50 Go to previous message
The rings should be fine... when the engine was in bits foursnmore took a look at the rings, they were in good condition.

I'm going to try a compression test anyway.
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