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Re: Gen 3 1GGTE Mods
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Tue, 08 February 2005 04:33
 
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In that case look at the electric boost controller, it should help provide good drivability. ECU could also help here too, provided it is set up correctly.
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Re: Gen 3 1GGTE Mods
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Tue, 08 February 2005 04:56
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ohk sweet !
i know it's like asking how much is a peice of string but i've done some research and found both items vary greatly in price.
how much do u think good quality items would cost ?
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Re: Gen 3 1GGTE Mods
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Tue, 08 February 2005 05:24
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Build the jaycar boost controller kit, grab a 2nd hand boost solenoid from a nissan wrecker, and the hand controller kit, should be easily under $200... probably close to the $150 mark. This is good for a fully customisable boost controller 
ECU varies too much to say 
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Re: Gen 3 1GGTE Mods
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Tue, 08 February 2005 05:49
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I just recently got myself a GA70 supra, and im pretty new as well, im finding some things in thread interesting and im comtemplating doing some of it. Thanks,
P.S. I'll be asking for help later, most likely, please dont ignore me
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Lismore, NSW
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February 2003
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Re: Gen 3 1GGTE Mods
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Tue, 08 February 2005 09:50
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Gold28 Bah... Didn't some of the 1G's come out with ceramic turbines? I guess I was Bahhhh wrong then. 
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Re: Gen 3 1GGTE Mods
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Tue, 08 February 2005 20:41
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AFAIK all CT12 (1G-GTE) are steel
CT12a (1JZ-GTE) are ceramic
CT12b (2JZ-GTE) both ceramic and steel depending on where they were delivered.
The CT12 may have come with ceramic wheels, but I am not aware of any.
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South Eastern Subs
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March 2004
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Re: Gen 3 1GGTE Mods
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Wed, 09 February 2005 06:49
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Hey gold 28 how do u get past fuel cut. I am running blitz bag turbo ct12's and i get the anoying fuel cut with the engine light flashing..mind u this only happens when dropping a gear from say 70km not from standing start. Standing start it goes to 17psi no worries... Also anyone found that the damn 1g gen 2 runs f&*nin rich at this boost levels. This must be costing me power???
Anyways i finished the engine and i am wonering wheather to invest in an apexi SAFC for the mixture or go for the Greedy E-manage. I am thinking emanage cause it will get rid of the fuel cut and give me ignition controll??? What do u people think..sorry for blabing on by the way...
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Re: Gen 3 1GGTE Mods
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Wed, 09 February 2005 09:58
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The 1G doesn't have a boost cut, it's the AFM maxing out. How are those turbos going btw
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Re: Gen 3 1GGTE Mods
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Wed, 09 February 2005 21:30
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dem lil CT12's are doin just fine.
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Re: Gen 3 1GGTE Mods
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Wed, 09 February 2005 21:40
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boyan its steve here mate how u doing , nice to see u got them turbos on is the car runnin better with them on iil have to see it one day hopefully
with the piggybacks , theres was a guy here who got 158 or so kw out of a gen 2 1g-gte with an safc type 2 in it its also easier to tune but not plug and play so wires have to be cut
emanage is better but it costs a lot of money to setup, tune and get the car running also i think u need the ignition, and injector harness for it as well
with all that effort u might as well get a replacement ecu from mines or motec or something likewise
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Re: Gen 3 1GGTE Mods
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Wed, 09 February 2005 23:04
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WELL the emanage is the better one than safc most defenitly because emanage has more tuning points and a bit better
but its up to ones liking
the costs are more for the emanage than to tune a safc
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Re: Gen 3 1GGTE Mods
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Wed, 09 February 2005 23:08
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Noob Question:
What's SAFC ?
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Re: Gen 3 1GGTE Mods
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Wed, 09 February 2005 23:13
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indian: bah, the SAFC will cost you nearly $650 brand spankers, whereas emanage will cost about $720 with wiring and injector harness install and tune will cost around $500, tune and install on SAFC is about $300, the differences arent that much...
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Re: Gen 3 1GGTE Mods
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Wed, 09 February 2005 23:14
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mookie: SAFC is a super air flow controller, it is made by apexi and it is basially a crude piggy back computer with flashy wank factor screen...
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Re: Gen 3 1GGTE Mods
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Wed, 09 February 2005 23:14
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its called SUPER AIR FLOW CONVERTER
made by apexi
its a piggyback fuel controller in a nutshell
cheap way to make power from a soarer
well no too much of power but still good enuf for small mods
it lets u increase or decrease fuel setting for given rpm range
and since our cars run like mega rich from factory it help by lowering fuel consumption and giving some power, good for when u turn the boost up
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Madrid - Spain
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Re: Gen 3 1GGTE Mods
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Wed, 09 February 2005 23:36
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Haltec do a plug in programmable ecu for the 1G but I don't know which version.
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Re: Gen 3 1GGTE Mods
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Thu, 10 February 2005 00:03
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ohhhhh right thanks guys.
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Re: Gen 3 1GGTE Mods
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Thu, 10 February 2005 00:21
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| justcallmefrank wrote on Wed, 09 February 2005 17:58 |
The 1G doesn't have a boost cut, it's the AFM maxing out. How are those turbos going btw
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| BLK1GGTE wrote on Wed, 09 February 2005 14:49 |
I am running blitz bag turbo ct12's
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I'm curious about these, they are the ones on mine
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Re: Gen 3 1GGTE Mods
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Thu, 10 February 2005 00:34
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Are the turbo's used on the 1g the 1jz and 2jz the same ?
another noob question i know but i really need to know.
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Re: Gen 3 1GGTE Mods
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Thu, 10 February 2005 00:40
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| Mookie wrote on Thu, 10 February 2005 08:34 |
Are the turbo's used on the 1g the 1jz and 2jz the same ?
another noob question i know but i really need to know.
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Not at all.
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Re: Gen 3 1GGTE Mods
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Thu, 10 February 2005 00:44
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they r all ct 12's tho right ?
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Re: Gen 3 1GGTE Mods
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Thu, 10 February 2005 00:47
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No, the 1G has CT12's, the 1JZ has CT12A's and the 2JZ has CT12B's (or CT20A's), about the only thing they have in common is that they're a turbo with the name CT before them.
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Re: Gen 3 1GGTE Mods
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Thu, 10 February 2005 00:56
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I bought a digital fuel adjuster, electronic boost controller, hand controller and cable today... and that book that jaycar have also released, all up - $240!
Should do the job quite well I think 
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Re: Gen 3 1GGTE Mods
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Thu, 10 February 2005 00:59
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Chris,
Im looking for a cheap EBC, if you wanna make some cash do you reckon you could put one together?
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Re: Gen 3 1GGTE Mods
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Thu, 10 February 2005 01:11
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Lemme build and test this one first, then i'll decide on that one...
If I feel confident in making it, why not.
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Re: Gen 3 1GGTE Mods
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Thu, 10 February 2005 01:12
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so 2jz turbo's wouldn't be much of an improvement over what i have now ?
if it's a stupid question i'm sorry but the way i was thinking was.
the 2jz is a bigger newer more powerful motor and it's made by toyota. so it should be an easy swap and should yeild some power gains.
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Re: Gen 3 1GGTE Mods
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Thu, 10 February 2005 01:15
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Of course they'd be an improvement, power wise anyway, I think you'd find they'd be a bit laggy.
| Mookie wrote on Thu, 10 February 2005 09:12 |
the 2jz is a bigger newer more powerful motor and it's made by toyota. so it should be an easy swap and should yeild some power gains.
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How do you figure that, because Toyota made the CT26, does that mean I can put two of them on my manifold!? For starters, the 2JZGTE turbos only have one wastegate.
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Re: Gen 3 1GGTE Mods
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Thu, 10 February 2005 01:17
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awesome 
now seeing as this thread has become the dedicated 1GGTE mods thread, well sort of , i got a question for the 1G nuts out there, as some of you may know I am undertaking project drift soarer at the moment in fitting a pair of 32 GTR Turbos, these turbos are obviously not steel wheeled or ball bearing so an upgrade will be planned for the next six months, I was thinking of putting on a pair of GT2510's but using the GTR 28's exhaust housing becuase it is reasonably small which I am told is good for reducing lag.
2510's are roughly good for about 180rwkw on a 4AGTE so I am guessing i could make close to 290rwkw with a pair of them on a 1G?
any thoughts?
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Re: Gen 3 1GGTE Mods
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Thu, 10 February 2005 01:19
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The turbos can provide the air for it, whether or not you can get the engine to ingest that much air would be another question.
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Re: Gen 3 1GGTE Mods
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Thu, 10 February 2005 01:43
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We do seem to need a dedicated 1g-gte thread... every week at least 2 threads pop up asking a question that has been asked, or one that needs it's answer documented
I'm gonna push these stock turbos until i kill them... then i'll have to decide on getting either another set, or upgrade to a single or whatever.
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Re: Gen 3 1GGTE Mods
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Thu, 10 February 2005 02:02
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they are out of the new twin turbo supra's tho right ?
IT's just my warped logic i guess, I assumed the bolt pattern would be at least similar.
If i have to rev my motor out heaps before the turbo's start boosting does that mean i have lag ????
thank for answering my questions i know they must seem like really stupid questions to knowledgable ppl such as urselves.
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Brisbane CBD
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September 2004
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Re: Gen 3 1GGTE Mods
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Thu, 10 February 2005 02:19
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yeh the more you have to rev before they spool up is the more lag you have
; i think that spacific engine threads that are stickey would be a really good idea ??? at least on the first page we can peice together a tech to read for each engine you know? that way we can cut down on clutter perhaps ? anyhow just an idea
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Re: Gen 3 1GGTE Mods
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Thu, 10 February 2005 02:27
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| justcallmefrank wrote on Thu, 10 February 2005 11:49 |
The turbos can provide the air for it, whether or not you can get the engine to ingest that much air would be another question.
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any idea on how i could get the bastard to chew it up?
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Re: Gen 3 1GGTE Mods
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Thu, 10 February 2005 02:57
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| Ra28Freak wrote on Thu, 10 February 2005 13:19 |
yeh the more you have to rev before they spool up is the more lag you have
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Technically speaking that is the boost threashold. Lag is agtually how long it takes to make boost if you drop the accellerator when you are already doing the required revs.
But I guess thats what he was asking
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Re: Gen 3 1GGTE Mods
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Thu, 10 February 2005 03:05
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that was my limited understanding of it.
Thanks for filling in the blanks.
I think this should be a 1GGTE sticky aswell
I could change the title if u guys like.
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Re: Gen 3 1GGTE Mods
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Thu, 10 February 2005 06:29
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| MR 1GGTE wrote on Thu, 10 February 2005 10:27 |
| justcallmefrank wrote on Thu, 10 February 2005 11:49 |
The turbos can provide the air for it, whether or not you can get the engine to ingest that much air would be another question.
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any idea on how i could get the bastard to chew it up?
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Cleaning up the head, a larger throttle body, basically giving the engine a clearer path would be the most logical solution.
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Re: Gen 3 1GGTE Mods
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Thu, 10 February 2005 06:47
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| justcallmefrank wrote on Thu, 10 February 2005 16:59 |
| MR 1GGTE wrote on Thu, 10 February 2005 10:27 |
| justcallmefrank wrote on Thu, 10 February 2005 11:49 |
The turbos can provide the air for it, whether or not you can get the engine to ingest that much air would be another question.
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any idea on how i could get the bastard to chew it up?
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Cleaning up the head, a larger throttle body, basically giving the engine a clearer path would be the most logical solution.
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excellent cheers
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Re: Gen 3 1GGTE Mods
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Sun, 13 February 2005 07:43
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| gold28 wrote on Thu, 10 February 2005 10:36 |
Haltec do a plug in programmable ecu for the 1G but I don't know which version.
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Was talking to a bloke from haltec the other day. He said the E6X's are good for the 1G's. Their worth a fair bit of coin though. bout $1700, not including installation or anything.
Cheers, Rob
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Re: Gen 3 1GGTE Mods
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Tue, 01 March 2005 02:53
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I figured this thread would be the best place to post this so i dug it up.
Simple bolt on mods ?
is there such a thing ?
I don't have time to take the motor to peices at the moment but i'm still after more of that "pin you back in you seat" feeling.
I don't have heaps of money to throw at it (meaning i haven't saved anything i'm just gunna throw my pay cheque at it)
I keep thinging bigger turbo's will do it but they will cost me lag.
it's got a pod filter and 3 inch system already what else is there left to do ?
I'm looking for a little more bottom to middle end instead of rev it's tits off kind of thing.
If anybody has any ideas i'd be greatful.
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Re: Gen 3 1GGTE Mods
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Tue, 01 March 2005 03:17
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up the boost to 15psi
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Re: Gen 3 1GGTE Mods
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Tue, 01 March 2005 03:53
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| Bugman wrote on Tue, 01 March 2005 14:17 |
up the boost to 15psi
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I'm a step ahead of you.
altho my car is trying it's hardest it can only get to 10 psi.
I've turned the boots adjuster up and it's still only getting 10 psi what is the go there ?
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Re: Gen 3 1GGTE Mods
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Tue, 01 March 2005 03:57
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unplug the vacum hoses completely and very carefully try see how high it goes 
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Tue, 01 March 2005 04:01
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lol ohk I'll do it tonight.
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Tue, 01 March 2005 04:07
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also while your under your bonnet make sure that both wastgates are closed.
do this by looking at the linkages.. make sure they are both roughly in the same position and all the linkages are all together.
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Tue, 01 March 2005 05:39
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BTW MAKE SURE THE BLEED VALVE IS IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION
if not u wont get anything more than stock boost
looks like thats ur problem , just check it
also a pod filter and exhaust and boost wound up should do a bit performance wise
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Re: Gen 3 1GGTE Mods
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Tue, 01 March 2005 05:44
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| HyDrA wrote on Thu, 10 February 2005 11:56 |
I bought a digital fuel adjuster, electronic boost controller, hand controller and cable today... and that book that jaycar have also released, all up - $240!
Should do the job quite well I think
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btw hydra is that digital fuel adjuster any better than safc 1 or 2 im planning on an safc 1or 2 (whichever i can get cheap) soon which one u think will be better safc or jaycar stuff
and btw is that hand controller programmed to work with both the fuel adjuster and boost controller
if thats the case then i can get it as wellcause i need a boost controller too lollllllll
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Tue, 01 March 2005 05:46
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I haven't changed anything so it should still work .
unless there is another problem.
I'm going to check the 'gates when/ if stops it raining tonite.
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Tue, 01 March 2005 05:57
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DID U INSTALL THE BOST CONTROLLER URSELF F SO THEN CHEK THAT ITS THE RIGHT WAYAROUND
theres an arrow on manual bleed valves i think its supposed to be facing towards the wategate
and yeah the gates are a good idea too
btw whats with the chik in ur avtar (as it says)
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Re: Gen 3 1GGTE Mods
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Tue, 01 March 2005 08:30
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| indian wrote on Tue, 01 March 2005 16:14 |
| HyDrA wrote on Thu, 10 February 2005 11:56 |
I bought a digital fuel adjuster, electronic boost controller, hand controller and cable today... and that book that jaycar have also released, all up - $240!
Should do the job quite well I think
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btw hydra is that digital fuel adjuster any better than safc 1 or 2 im planning on an safc 1or 2 (whichever i can get cheap) soon which one u think will be better safc or jaycar stuff
and btw is that hand controller programmed to work with both the fuel adjuster and boost controller
if thats the case then i can get it as wellcause i need a boost controller too lollllllll
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The hand controller can change both devices. I dont know how it compares to those units, but it's gonna be good enough! You will need dyno time however, and you need a wide band O2 sensor.
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Tue, 01 March 2005 21:36
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whats a wide band 02 sensor , does the ig-gte engine have it , lolllll
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Tue, 01 March 2005 21:40
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Most dyno shops should have one... they're a good $600-$900 for a full kit (sensor, wiring, display).
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Tue, 01 March 2005 21:44
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so what does tis thing do for the $900 spent , is that some sort of chip or ecu or is it just a sensor as it says and will this sensor be neccesary for the jaycar kits to work
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Tue, 01 March 2005 21:52
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It's the sort of sensor that if you dont know what it does you really should leave the tuning to the professionals... even if you know what it does, a good dyno tune is probably safer
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Tue, 01 March 2005 21:59
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lolll thats cool i aint gonna tune the car my self will be gong to the mechanic on dyno
just wanted to know if this jaycar Kit needed the wideband 02 sensor to work , as u said the kit only cost like 250 dollars for the boost controller , fuel adjuster and handset , I was just wondering weter I need to fork out another 900 dollars to get the kit running in my car as I will be needing exactly that ( a boost controller and fuel controller) for my soarer soon , and was wondering which ones to get , jaycar ones , or the safc and some cheap ebc
so all in all which will be cheaper jaycar kit (will it work on the ig-gte engine, and without the wideband 02 sensor) or just go and buy the safc and an ebc
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Tue, 01 March 2005 22:01
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the wide band o2 sensor is what they stick up your exhaust pipe to tell you your fuel ratios very accuratly.
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Tue, 01 March 2005 22:08
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hah so then i wont need the wideband 02 sensor as i wont be tunin the car my self the dyno dude has it , i remember him sticking it in the exhaust pipe when i went there last time
yeah i will need to get it on a dyno for sure as im getting the exhaust done, winding the boost up and then trimming the fuel to get the best out of it
so does the jaycar kit come as the usual diy kit or is it all assembled already
btw since its a soarer thread
does anyone here know how to relocate the cruise control switch on the steering wheel cause im changing the steering wheel and cant find a boss kit with cruise control on it
will i be real hard anyone done it for the soarer b4
cheers
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Tue, 01 March 2005 22:15
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| indian wrote on Tue, 01 March 2005 16:57 |
DID U INSTALL THE BOST CONTROLLER URSELF F SO THEN CHEK THAT ITS THE RIGHT WAYAROUND
theres an arrow on manual bleed valves i think its supposed to be facing towards the wategate
and yeah the gates are a good idea too
btw whats with the chik in ur avtar (as it says)
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Haha I didn't install it myself it was in the car when i bought it.
The chick is my friend lisa she has a website but you need a credit card. She lives in cyprus but she sends me her pic for free.
and i'm staying with her when i got to cyprus.
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