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Pheonix
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ems 8860 serial cable Sun, 06 March 2005 02:01 Go to next message
hey guys, does any1 know if the 8860 uses a standard serial cable with both ends being female, im trying to verify that it is getting power and has the correct settings before doin a complete install. The cable i have used is a standard serial cable with a gender changer at one end, if the cable required is different can any1 supply me with a wiring diagram, i dont wanna fork out $30 for just a cable worth $2.
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Re: ems 8860 serial cable Sun, 06 March 2005 04:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
std 9 pin
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Re: ems 8860 serial cable Sun, 06 March 2005 05:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
tried a standard serial cable with DB-9 connectors, they must have some wires crossed!! Really wanna know as i want to get the computer in and tested, as some settings i wanna double check as this is not a standard engine.
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Re: ems 8860 serial cable Sun, 06 March 2005 06:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DO you have the power on to the computer while your trying to check??

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Re: ems 8860 serial cable Sun, 06 March 2005 07:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
No its not just a standard cable. It's only two pins i think.

youll need to buy one from ems.
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Re: ems 8860 serial cable Sun, 06 March 2005 10:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
damn, i was hoping some1 would know which wires are crossed, as for it being 2 wires it cant be as its 2 way communication
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Re: ems 8860 serial cable Sun, 06 March 2005 11:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Pheonix wrote on Sun, 06 March 2005 21:11

damn, i was hoping some1 would know which wires are crossed, as for it being 2 wires it cant be as its 2 way communication


I think Celica_John means that two wires / pins are crossed.

It is possible possible but unlikely that only two wires are used to connect the EMS to the computer.

It is possible for serial communcation to use only two wires (signal and signal ground)... e.g. USB which has only power, power ground, signal and signal ground but I think the computer would shit itself if it had to communicate via the serial port in this manner... this could be corrected by software but then this would be a lot of work to save using a few extra wires.
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Re: ems 8860 serial cable Sun, 06 March 2005 13:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ring roccos or rigolis

they are agents for ems

as for cables
i havnt heard of any special cable needed

but i do know some laptops are a pain to get online to ems ecus

im pretty sure i used a normal cable for programing a stinger

so y would an 8860 be different
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Re: ems 8860 serial cable Sun, 06 March 2005 22:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Quote:

but i do know some laptops are a pain to get online to ems ecus


Yeh, we had some trouble with new laptops connecting to a motec... we had to get a usb adaptor for the serial cable to connect. It was something about the serial ports on the laptop not being wired for output? Worked fine with the dinosaur laptops.

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Re: ems 8860 serial cable Mon, 07 March 2005 02:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
well EMS documentation sucks, well i just spoke to ems and its a standard NULL modem cable not serial, arrg everywhere in the documents its says serial cable
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Re: ems 8860 serial cable Mon, 07 March 2005 03:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Thats because it looks like a serial cable, uses 2 wires +gnd/shield

visit dick smith and diy if you are feeling adventurous Smile

http://www2.rad.com/networks/1995/rs232/common.htm

edit: bad link

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Re: ems 8860 serial cable Mon, 07 March 2005 10:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
yer the new software these days dont like

usb to serial adapters

i had many probs with autronic software untill u use the very latest its ok

im not sure with ems as i hardly use it

microtechs are so much easier with handset

but ring some ems dealers

i got one premade from dicks for 13 bucks

but i recon yr prob is yr laptop if its newish

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Re: ems 8860 serial cable Mon, 07 March 2005 15:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
grrrr not happy, tried a made-up null modem cable, still doesnt work, tested on 2 laptops, a toshiba pentium 100 and a dell pent2 400, im gonna try to get a wiring diagram, cause its not a standard null modem (several different varients of it)
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Re: ems 8860 serial cable Mon, 07 March 2005 21:46 Go to previous message
just buy a cable theyre only 10 bucks

also if yr runnin windows xp theres more things u need to do in the settings

u have to make sure coms ports are same
like coms1 on pc and coms 1 on ems program

i have a std 9 pin extension cable
cant remember what ems have as in 2 male or 2 female ends
or one of each but it worked

the ems program crashed in windows xp sometimes on my laptop

i hate doin ems cause of the bullshit time wasted each time to get online

but once u work it out it will prob work most of the time

the software that comes with some of these aftermarket ecus is so fukt

too fukin slow

wont work with most laptops

u need an old laptop running dos

they dont spend enough time and money developing the software

each time u change something on ems program takes fukin ages to upload

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