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Playin GT4
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Wed, 09 March 2005 10:06
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Got my copy of gt4 and my force feedback wheel today, lovin it..
theres quite a few things that annoy me but all in all its good, for those who get it tomorrow I wanna hear what you think. Also what cars you are driving.
My car: Evo 3, modded to the tune of about 260kw or something
The game is really fun as the old ones were, plenty of cars to keep me happy for now
Things that suck:
License tests
The AI, they just ram you and race their own line, they dont react to anything you do
loading times.
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Yeppoon,QLD
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November 2004
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Re: Playin GT4
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Wed, 09 March 2005 10:11
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how did you get it early????????
and is there sprinters with fix lights???????
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Brisbane
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July 2002
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Re: Playin GT4
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Wed, 09 March 2005 10:19
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| Garage_KooK wrote on Wed, 09 March 2005 21:11 |
how did you get it early????????
and is there sprinters with fix lights???????
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fix lights?
i havent even looked at toyota yet actually..
couldnt find any good toyota used cars so i got my evo
as for getting it early, the store just rang me up and said "your copy is here, you can come and get it now".. ive actually got 2 copies in my room that are mine atm..
so when they said that, i was crashing through their doors 5 mins later
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Yeppoon,QLD
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November 2004
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Re: Playin GT4
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Wed, 09 March 2005 10:24
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i mean not pop up lights like gt3
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Brisbane
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July 2002
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Re: Playin GT4
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Wed, 09 March 2005 10:25
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ill have a look. .though it will be used cars.. so they will only turn up every so often
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Location:
Brisbane
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July 2002
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Re: Playin GT4
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Wed, 09 March 2005 10:27
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yep, theres ones with no pop ups
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Sydney
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February 2005
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Re: Playin GT4
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Wed, 09 March 2005 10:30
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fuck you....lol, i want the game so bad, i just wanna throw it sideways in something old, is that too much to ask!!
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Location:
Brisbane
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July 2002
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Re: Playin GT4
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Wed, 09 March 2005 10:42
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| unforgiven wrote on Wed, 09 March 2005 21:30 |
fuck you....lol, i want the game so bad, i just wanna throw it sideways in something old, is that too much to ask!!
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i find everything seems to understeer a bit too much at the moment
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Location:
Canberra
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October 2004
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Re: Playin GT4
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Wed, 09 March 2005 11:09
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| Jag7799 wrote on Wed, 09 March 2005 21:42 |
| unforgiven wrote on Wed, 09 March 2005 21:30 |
fuck you....lol, i want the game so bad, i just wanna throw it sideways in something old, is that too much to ask!!
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i find everything seems to understeer a bit too much at the moment
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you mean is too realistic? 
Anyway try changing the tyres...works a treat!
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Location:
Brisbane
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July 2002
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Re: Playin GT4
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Wed, 09 March 2005 11:14
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the game isnt the slightest bit realistic
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On Probation
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Hobart
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December 2004
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Re: Playin GT4
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Wed, 09 March 2005 11:20
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ARGH stop sayign bad stuff now u r just ruining it... i have waited since GT3 for a game like this and all u can say is bad stuff  just be happy for the fact that they put the CElica XX in it
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Location:
Brisbane
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July 2002
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Re: Playin GT4
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Wed, 09 March 2005 12:09
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i did say i was loving it
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Location:
Sydney
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September 2003
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Location:
Brisbane
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July 2002
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Re: Playin GT4
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Wed, 09 March 2005 12:23
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now you see that, then go read a forza vs gt4 discussion
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On Probation
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Hobart
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December 2004
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Re: Playin GT4
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Wed, 09 March 2005 12:33
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its liek comparing Windows to Mac 2 different things but similar
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Location:
Hobart, Tasmania
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January 2005
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Re: Playin GT4
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Wed, 09 March 2005 12:42
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Back in the GT2 days, it was considered realistic, cause compared to what else was on the market, it WAS the MOST realistic at the time... Not much has changed since GT2 so its roughly the same game with better graphics and more cars, there are other products on the market now that are far more realistic but have a limited selection of cars. That being said, I think the Gran Turismo series is a bit of a gimmick rather than a solid game its got a heap of content but its not revolutionary in any way. In fact its not even that much fun to play, its just like a huge interactive magazine... anyone else agree?
That being said, I want Gran Turismo 4 because it has my car in it (basically), so I'm still excited!
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On Probation
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Hobart
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December 2004
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Re: Playin GT4
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Wed, 09 March 2005 12:46
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na it is fun because it imatates realism... its not everyday u can throw hundreds of thousands at an MA61 to get it close to 400hp!!! and pull some crazt drifts for only $100!!
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Location:
Hobart, Tasmania
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January 2005
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Re: Playin GT4
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Wed, 09 March 2005 13:05
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I still like the game, but I find myself getting tired of it quickly, mainly due to the WIDE ASS tracks, lack of AI, hell of a lot of understeer until you put realism tires on, lack of skidders and proper stacks etc. That tire skidding sound seriously makes my penis go soft too, that needs to be fixed, NOW! I feel like i'm in a bit of a barry-bumpercar when I lose it and stack into a wall at 80km's and bounce into the centre of the track still facing the same direction only to be rear-ended back up to speed by the "monorail" that is the computer cars.
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On Probation
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Hobart
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December 2004
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Re: Playin GT4
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Wed, 09 March 2005 13:07
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LOL i agree with all of wat u said.. i would love to take a fully sick R34 GTR and plant it into a wall at 400 and wathc it turn to dust!!
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Brisbane
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July 2002
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Re: Playin GT4
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Wed, 09 March 2005 13:16
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| Rainey wrote on Wed, 09 March 2005 23:42 |
Back in the GT2 days, it was considered realistic, cause compared to what else was on the market, it WAS the MOST realistic at the time... Not much has changed since GT2 so its roughly the same game with better graphics and more cars, there are other products on the market now that are far more realistic but have a limited selection of cars. That being said, I think the Gran Turismo series is a bit of a gimmick rather than a solid game its got a heap of content but its not revolutionary in any way. In fact its not even that much fun to play, its just like a huge interactive magazine... anyone else agree?
That being said, I want Gran Turismo 4 because it has my car in it (basically), so I'm still excited!
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what he said
the tyure screeching noise is on every corner!!!
just got the 2nd biggest turbo, im killing them now
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On Probation
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Hobart
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December 2004
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Re: Playin GT4
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Wed, 09 March 2005 13:19
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get the 5ME for it... then u r sure to win... i bet u will $20 in fact
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Location:
Adelaide
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January 2004
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Re: Playin GT4
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Wed, 09 March 2005 14:01
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According to the article it has "better-than-real-life graphics".
ahem, no 
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Re: Playin GT4
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Wed, 09 March 2005 14:05
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I personally think Forza is gunna be pretty damn sensational. The demo is pretty average because you can't do 1/1000th of what you can in the game.
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Location:
Melbourne, Australia
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March 2005
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Re: Playin GT4
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Wed, 09 March 2005 22:52
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i want i want!!
hopefully getn a PS2 soon and GT4.
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Location:
Campbelltown
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November 2003
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Re: Playin GT4
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Wed, 09 March 2005 23:08
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AI and the lack of competitors lacks in almost evry racing game, there are two few competitors, the only game with a decent amount is V8 20 car races make for much more entertainment however it affects overall graphics quality, that being said V8 version one was still a joke cos they were so slow anyway.
I want a game with say 10-15 racers in it with decent ai that actually challenges me.
A great game on computer for this a couple of years ago was sports car GT, plenty of cars in a race and you could make it harder and almost level with your ability if you wanted
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On Probation
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Hobart
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December 2004
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Re: Playin GT4
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Wed, 09 March 2005 23:21
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yea i find Gran turismo a bit soft in regards to difficulty. I find with my 750hp JZA80 i can blow anything away even in the Turbo Races, but then goto the GT Cup and they fucking tread on me!!
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Location:
Hobart, Tasmania
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January 2005
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Re: Playin GT4
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Wed, 09 March 2005 23:34
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I agree with the previous post regarding Sports Car GT, I still play that game sometimes. Each Christmas Eve at work we hold whats called "Network Testing" and everyone races each other in Sports Car GT, its great fun and everyone gets involved!
Other realistic games worth mention are:
Project Gotham Racing 1 & 2
Nascar Racing 2002
Richard Burns Rally (no AI but great physics)
So who's got Trizzy now!?
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Location:
Campbelltown
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November 2003
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Re: Playin GT4
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Wed, 09 March 2005 23:48
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yeah love gotham got 1 and 2 only number 2 works though, physics are pretty good and so is ai but not enough racers. great fun sliding round tracks or racing fav car has to be ferarri GTB4, my friend can race a modena and I still kick him in that car.
Gotta love the nurburgring, although the last race is a bitch cos one mistake and over 20 minutes of gameplay can be ruined., trust me on platinum I had a good lead and spun on the last lap quite close to the end of the lap and came second, which means you don't unlock all the goodies I am yet to win that race.
When we got our new computer last year I put on Sports car again, only fault with that game is that most wheels / controllers cause it to crash.
nothing beats a fully modded maclaren f1, although that skinny car forgot its name is pretty quick too if you know how to drive it.
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Location:
Campbelltown
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November 2003
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Re: Playin GT4
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Wed, 09 March 2005 23:49
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i only got xbox and computer so looks like I have to wait for Forza to come out stupid delays.
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Brisbane
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July 2002
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Re: Playin GT4
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Thu, 10 March 2005 00:02
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I play gotham 2 still, my boss was one of the 3d artists on the game, i say its AI is a lot better than gt4 and its driving model was a little bit better.
one thing it cannot have a hope in hell to match is the force feedback, its simply amazing..
basically, if you get gt4 and you dont get force feedback, your ruining the experience for yourself.
I drove the f6 typhoon around the nurburgring, my 1st full lap of it in a long time, 8 and a half minutes which isnt too bad
When you all get it today, tell me what cars you started with, what you think and how you are going
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Hobart, Tasmania
Registered:
January 2005
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Re: Playin GT4
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Thu, 10 March 2005 00:20
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Me: PC & Xbox
Fiancee: PS2
Me: 
GT4 doesn't have AI, it can't be classed as any form of AI, its just a rubberband-like monorail with automatic ketchup (catchup). Project Gotham has good AI, the race feels like it's unfolding and cars attack eachother and yourself which sometimes causes accidents both among themselves and with you. Great fun.
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On Probation
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Hobart
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December 2004
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Re: Playin GT4
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Thu, 10 March 2005 00:25
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i want to see damage in GT4... that why u would be more inclided to race properly.... when i get bored of the other GT's series i just try to see hwo fast i can take corners and end up taking some tighter corners at over 150k's per hour only to hit a wall and bounce around hte place.. very lame i think damage would b insane
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Location:
Hobart, Tasmania
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January 2005
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Re: Playin GT4
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Thu, 10 March 2005 01:57
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Yea, it needs some sort of realistic penalty for driving like a retard. Either by damage or at least proper collision physics, none of this lame 10sec penalty... Ugh..
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On Probation
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Hobart
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December 2004
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Re: Playin GT4
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Thu, 10 March 2005 02:02
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its not even that.. u just slow down thats it.. even if the car didn't have damge on teh car.. u should have to pay to have it repaired else your car steers like shit if u have the wheels damaged, like it could steer off to one side of the road.. or your lose engine power or acceleration or top speed.. if u r with me it would just make the ghame slightly more challenging and realistic!
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Location:
Central Coast, NSW
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February 2005
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Re: Playin GT4
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Thu, 10 March 2005 02:02
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You guys need to try Live for Speed on the PC with a decent steering wheel...
supports analog clutches too... I remember seeing someone who made a home-made five-speed gearshift as well, and got it working with the game
Live for speed is one of the more realistic games you'll try... Doesn't have panel damage (least last time I played it, around 6 months ago, theres much a newer version out now of course) but you do damage your engine through overrevving it and such... tyre wear etc
Check it out 
www.liveforspeed.net
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Brisbane
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July 2002
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Re: Playin GT4
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Thu, 10 March 2005 02:03
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I had one race where i just couldnt win, i understeered off a corner and jsut went straight to meet up with the other track and won the race haha.. cheap as
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On Probation
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Hobart
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December 2004
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Re: Playin GT4
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Thu, 10 March 2005 02:05
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ahhaha nice work... i hear that this GT u need fuel is that true ?
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Brisbane
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July 2002
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Re: Playin GT4
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Thu, 10 March 2005 02:06
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| Merudo wrote on Thu, 10 March 2005 13:02 |
You guys need to try Live for Speed on the PC with a decent steering wheel...
supports analog clutches too... I remember seeing someone who made a home-made five-speed gearshift as well, and got it working with the game
Live for speed is one of the more realistic games you'll try... Doesn't have panel damage (least last time I played it, around 6 months ago, theres much a newer version out now of course) but you do damage your engine through overrevving it and such... tyre wear etc
Check it out
www.liveforspeed.net
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live for speed is alright.. but the lack of real cars made me get bored
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Campbelltown, NSW, Austra...
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January 2004
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Re: Playin GT4
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Thu, 10 March 2005 02:06
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Yeha understeer is pretty prevalant. I got an fpv f6 typhoon for my first car, did stage 2 turbo, better brakes, exhaust and chip. One thing i did notice is that on changing units from BHP to Kw, some screens don't convert from BHP. For example once i had finished tuning i apparently had made an F6 with 586 kW??, same thing for the garage.
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On Probation
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Hobart
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December 2004
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Re: Playin GT4
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Thu, 10 March 2005 02:10
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nice ... almost as much power as the 5ME!!!
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Central Coast, NSW
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February 2005
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Re: Playin GT4
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Thu, 10 March 2005 02:15
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| TRD_Supra wrote on Thu, 10 March 2005 13:10 |
nice ... almost as much power as the 5ME!!!
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i like your style mate:)
we've got a 5M-E club on the cressida forums... i'd like to make you an honourary member  
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Location:
Campbelltown
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November 2003
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Re: Playin GT4
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Thu, 10 March 2005 02:15
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maybe if divide it by five then take another 80 off
enough with the 5me jokes they just aren't funny anymore.
PS how's the clutch holding up on the Typhoon.
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On Probation
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Hobart
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December 2004
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Re: Playin GT4
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Thu, 10 March 2005 02:26
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| Merudo wrote on Thu, 10 March 2005 13:15 |
| TRD_Supra wrote on Thu, 10 March 2005 13:10 |
nice ... almost as much power as the 5ME!!!
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i like your style mate:)
we've got a 5M-E club on the cressida forums... i'd like to make you an honourary member
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i would be delighted can i have a link plz i am thikning about twin turboing the 5ME it just has so much potential!
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Hobart, Tasmania
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January 2005
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Re: Playin GT4
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Thu, 10 March 2005 02:33
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I've played Live For Speed before, and although I did enjoy that, it just isn't polished enough for my likings and like Jag7799 said, it lacks real cars which takes away a bit too much from the whole realism factor.
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Campbelltown, NSW, Austra...
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January 2004
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Re: Playin GT4
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Thu, 10 March 2005 03:04
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Well strangley enough i think they must have seen the problem caus the version i drive is only a 5 speed. I know i'll put in in auto so the car can handle teh awesome torque!!!
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Campbelltown
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November 2003
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Re: Playin GT4
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Thu, 10 March 2005 03:09
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The typhoon is only available in the 6 speed though, and the gearbox isn't the problem it's the clutch, they are now trialling parts from an F50 that have been modified adn hop to rectify the problem. The five speed would shit itself under that much torque hence them changing to the T56
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Location:
Newcastle
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June 2004
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Location:
Melbourne, Australia
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July 2002
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Re: Playin GT4
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Thu, 10 March 2005 05:59
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| Evan wrote on Thu, 10 March 2005 14:33 |
First eva doriftu!
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Perhaps I need glasses, no "doriftu" there
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Brisbane
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July 2002
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Re: Playin GT4
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Thu, 10 March 2005 06:20
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Well I just sold my evo 2 with 400 kw and some suspension upgrades for a basically stock evo 8, and my evo 8 is HEAPS faster around a track, lots less understeer, i think km's ont he car help?
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NSW Engadine
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June 2003
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Re: Playin GT4
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Thu, 10 March 2005 07:13
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If you just transfer your money and licences to GT4 theres no fun in the game, I grew bored of it in about 15 minutes with 110,000 credits and all the licences...
So I restarted with 10k and no licences and am working my way up...
BTW: its more realistic, the cars dont understeer more, you've just got the total wrong technique, dont take the corners so hard you'll find you do much better just trying to drive smoothly, not go at it like your the drift king...
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Brisbane
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July 2002
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Re: Playin GT4
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Thu, 10 March 2005 07:20
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| 79rollaboy wrote on Thu, 10 March 2005 18:13 |
If you just transfer your money and licences to GT4 theres no fun in the game, I grew bored of it in about 15 minutes with 110,000 credits and all the licences...
So I restarted with 10k and no licences and am working my way up...
BTW: its more realistic, the cars dont understeer more, you've just got the total wrong technique, dont take the corners so hard you'll find you do much better just trying to drive smoothly, not go at it like your the drift king...
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its not that, it was my evo 2, i think k's affect cars and it had alot, replaced it with an evo 8 and it goes hard.
I started from scratch
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Perth, WA
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December 2004
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Re: Playin GT4
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Thu, 10 March 2005 07:26
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| Rainey wrote on Thu, 10 March 2005 08:20 |
Me: PC & Xbox
Fiancee: PS2
Me:
GT4 doesn't have AI, it can't be classed as any form of AI, its just a rubberband-like monorail with automatic ketchup (catchup). Project Gotham has good AI, the race feels like it's unfolding and cars attack eachother and yourself which sometimes causes accidents both among themselves and with you. Great fun.
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Me = ps2 xbox and 2 computers
Me = :/
i love game consoles, the only thing i DONT like is HALO GOT RELEASED ON PC, WTF?
"ONLY ON XBOX"
means only on xbox.
i have yet to play gt4, but im sitting here looking at the game wanting to go home and slot it into the station. farking tafe!
Cheers,
Eldar.O.
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Melbourne, Australia
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March 2005
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Re: Playin GT4
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Thu, 10 March 2005 08:31
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Is GT4's arcade mode a little unrealistic to anyone else??
I got a PS2..but dont have a mem card yet..so i can only play arcade mode for the moment.
Seems unrealistic to me. Most cars feel very heavy..understeer alot and don't to doughnuts or anything. Steering is unresponsive and even the fastest of car seem hard to do drift. The physics and realism seem reduced somewhat.
Any one else experience this?
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Brisbane
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July 2002
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Re: Playin GT4
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Thu, 10 March 2005 08:52
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dont think it changes to the sim mode...
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Brisbane
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July 2002
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Re: Playin GT4
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Thu, 10 March 2005 09:57
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so you cant buy a jza80 new from toyota...
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Melbourne, Australia
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July 2002
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Re: Playin GT4
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Thu, 10 March 2005 10:26
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| EldarO wrote on Thu, 10 March 2005 18:26 |
| Rainey wrote on Thu, 10 March 2005 08:20 |
Me: PC & Xbox
Fiancee: PS2
Me:
GT4 doesn't have AI, it can't be classed as any form of AI, its just a rubberband-like monorail with automatic ketchup (catchup). Project Gotham has good AI, the race feels like it's unfolding and cars attack eachother and yourself which sometimes causes accidents both among themselves and with you. Great fun.
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Me = ps2 xbox and 2 computers
Me = :/
i love game consoles, the only thing i DONT like is HALO GOT RELEASED ON PC, WTF?
"ONLY ON XBOX"
means only on xbox.
i have yet to play gt4, but im sitting here looking at the game wanting to go home and slot it into the station. farking tafe!
Cheers,
Eldar.O.
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Maybe some of us don't feel like buying another PC (Xbox) so why not release Halo on the PC. I'm sure it doesn't really hurt you in anyway.
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Brisbane
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July 2002
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Re: Playin GT4
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Thu, 10 March 2005 10:32
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so back to the original topic
what cars are u driving
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Toronto, Downtown
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September 2004
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Brisbane
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Re: Playin GT4
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Thu, 10 March 2005 11:02
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| 4agte wrote on Thu, 10 March 2005 22:00 |
ive been playing it tonight i really liked it especially since they have a aw11 sc g-limited which im driving ofcourse.
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does that go any good?.. i was thinking about getting one for my 1st car
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Toronto, Downtown
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September 2004
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Re: Playin GT4
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Thu, 10 March 2005 11:05
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yeah its ok i havent tried anything else but stock it beats everything in the beginner stuff but i guess any car will do in there. needs more power for the MR races. handles very nicly tho
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