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Install of shift light in a Sprinter (4ac)
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Tue, 15 March 2005 11:54
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Hey all
Just wondering if anyone has done this before as Im looking at get a gizzmo 2 stage shift light and was just wondering how the installastion would work, Ive been told that I connect it straight to the tacho pulse or something like that.
Help would be much appreceated and I already did a search and it didn't turn up much.
thanks
Julian
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Brisbane / Gold Coast
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May 2002
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Re: Install of shift light in a Sprinter (4ac)
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Tue, 15 March 2005 12:13
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I didn't think a 4AC culd be revved high enough to need one ... ?
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Location:
Gawler, SA
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August 2003
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Re: Install of shift light in a Sprinter (4ac)
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Tue, 15 March 2005 12:16
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And if it could, your 'expert' shifting aint going to beat any* car on the road.
*possibly except really old single cam excels
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Melbourne - NthSubs
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January 2004
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Re: Install of shift light in a Sprinter (4ac)
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Tue, 15 March 2005 12:28
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wouldnt it be the same as anyother tacho installation?
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Location:
Melbourne
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December 2004
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Re: Install of shift light in a Sprinter (4ac)
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Tue, 15 March 2005 12:43
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ok have to look into that thanks leo
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Montrose, VIC
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May 2002
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Re: Install of shift light in a Sprinter (4ac)
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Tue, 15 March 2005 13:18
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That's it, I'm getting rid of my sprinter.
Someone PLEASE suggest for me a car that won't make me feel like such an idiot?
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I Supported Toymods
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Lwr Templestowe, Melbourne
Registered:
August 2004
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Re: Install of shift light in a Sprinter (4ac)
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Tue, 15 March 2005 14:10
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Heh heh heh 
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Location:
Melbourne
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December 2004
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Re: Install of shift light in a Sprinter (4ac)
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Tue, 15 March 2005 14:44
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Ok if you dont have any advice please dont say anything at all, im just asking for some future wiring help im not asking your opinion on the shift light, as for wanting to put a shift light in is because at the moment I can only do a couple bull shit mods cause Im not able to put a 4age in as I dont I am not allowed to atm and can only do it untill I get my P's.
Now mrshin
If you have any mods that I could do that I wouldnt require the 4age engine please feel free to give me some ideas, but if you dont try not to make smart ass comments about others.
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I supported Toymods
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Brisbane
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September 2004
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Re: Install of shift light in a Sprinter (4ac)
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Wed, 16 March 2005 00:19
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www.carsales.com.au
Best mod you could do, put it in there? 
I kid, I kid.
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I Supported Toymods
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Sydney
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December 2002
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Re: Install of shift light in a Sprinter (4ac)
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Wed, 16 March 2005 00:32
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| mrshin wrote on Wed, 16 March 2005 00:18 |
That's it, I'm getting rid of my sprinter.
Someone PLEASE suggest for me a car that won't make me feel like such an idiot?
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A Hyundai Excel with a 3' high wing?
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I Supported Toymods
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Lwr Templestowe, Melbourne
Registered:
August 2004
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Re: Install of shift light in a Sprinter (4ac)
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Wed, 16 March 2005 00:43
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| Toobs wrote on Wed, 16 March 2005 11:32 |
| mrshin wrote on Wed, 16 March 2005 00:18 |
That's it, I'm getting rid of my sprinter.
Someone PLEASE suggest for me a car that won't make me feel like such an idiot?
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A Hyundai Excel with a 3' high wing?
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And a full rally bodykit.
and the number plate SIKBRO
Sorry, I'll leave this thread alone now.
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Adelaide
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May 2002
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Land of Oz
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June 2004
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Re: Install of shift light in a Sprinter (4ac)
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Wed, 16 March 2005 04:16
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Hi,
Mate, I don't want to rain on your parade, but really, a shift-light is very unnecessary if you know your car and are competent driving a manual gearbox.
You should be able to tell by the sound of the engine, the speed you're going and the general feel of the car when it is necessary to change the gears. Furthermore, the light comes on at max power revs and you won't be screaming the engine at those revs each time you need to change gear, unless you're in a drag.
I'm not saying this to piss you off or to have a go at you, but I'm sure there's better things you can blow your money on (for your car) than a light that tells you when to do something that you already know how to do. Just a stock tacho is more than adequate to determine engine speed - assuming your car doesn't have one.
seeyuzz
river
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Location:
Epping, Sydney
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April 2003
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Re: Install of shift light in a Sprinter (4ac)
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Wed, 16 March 2005 04:18
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like diss..... ?
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Location:
Potts Point, Sydney
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October 2003
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Re: Install of shift light in a Sprinter (4ac)
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Wed, 16 March 2005 04:26
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what river said ^^ 
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Terrigal
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May 2002
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Location:
Melbourne
Registered:
November 2003
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Re: Install of shift light in a Sprinter (4ac)
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Wed, 16 March 2005 05:18
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I own a 4ac powered Sprinter, and frankly, knowing how long the motor takes to get to redline, having a shift light like that one would create an effect more like the sun coming up. It'd take 10 minutes for the light to be fully on...
Take River's advice!
Cheers,
Dan
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November 2002
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Re: Install of shift light in a Sprinter (4ac)
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Wed, 16 March 2005 05:46
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Hope this shift light is not going onto an auto 4AC.....
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Montrose, VIC
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May 2002
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Re: Install of shift light in a Sprinter (4ac)
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Wed, 16 March 2005 06:36
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Exactly - I bought a 4AG for an astounding $400 with ECU, and it's still going much stronger than expected.
Rex, while I appreciate the support, you mustn't make fun of air horns - they're an essential part of Kenworth daily life (frightening the piss (and frequently other excretial matter!) out of cattle, deer, antelopes and alpacas that stray onto the highway)
Shift lights DO serve a purpose on many vehicles - they replace the often lacking levels of sunshine exposure, as well as drawing attention to silky white pants. All you have to do is set it to come on at 2500rpm so that it's actually useful(?) on your VN, I mean, sorry, 4AC.
How do you connect it? Should be three wires - one goes to earth, one to power (ignition switched) and one to coil - (which already goes to the tacho, black wire with orange tracer)
How to make a 4AC go harder? Put it on LPG, make sure it's always above the temperature required to brew a pot of Bushell's, and abuse it. I did that with mine, and it REFUSED to blow a head gasket. I had to give it away to someone else afterwards to make sure it could continue such excellent service... (Frighteningly enough, you CAN actually get a few different grinds of cam for them!)
There, that helpful enough?
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Location:
Melbourne
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December 2004
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Re: Install of shift light in a Sprinter (4ac)
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Wed, 16 March 2005 06:38
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Thanks river you have made a good point and changed my mind, I dont need a shift light, I guess I just got caught up in the moment of going down to the shop and looking at them, I think the only thing that I was really considered to put one in was for the rice factor, I guess ill just have to find some thing else to get instead.
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Melbourne
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December 2004
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Re: Install of shift light in a Sprinter (4ac)
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Wed, 16 March 2005 06:44
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Just saw the second post mrskin so where did you get a 4age for that much most of the ones that I have seen are $700+, If I could get one for $400 I would buy it
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May 2002
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Re: Install of shift light in a Sprinter (4ac)
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Wed, 16 March 2005 07:02
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| Rex_Kelway wrote on Wed, 16 March 2005 14:14 |
- Move number plate to one side of bumper
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uh ohh... i think im in trouble now
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I supported Toymods
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Brisbane
Registered:
September 2004
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Re: Install of shift light in a Sprinter (4ac)
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Wed, 16 March 2005 15:39
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In all serious mate, save your pennies. Look at upgrading suspension or something like that first, if you don't want to tackle an engine swap straight away. Or upgrade the rear breaks to disc instead of drums. Many other worthwhile things you could be spending your money on, more important things.
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Adelaide, drift capital
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May 2004
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Canberra
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May 2002
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Re: Install of shift light in a Sprinter (4ac)
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Wed, 06 April 2005 12:13
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I tried to blow up a 4ac on the weekend, sat it in the driveway in neutral and buried the accelerator, it already had a blown headgasket, but the multimeter tacho showed 7560 rpm
Didn't need a shift light though, and you definately wouldn't see the sunrise, cause past 7000rpm it was spewing that much oil onto the windscreen from the valve cover breather (no bonnet) that you would have known it was time to change cogs  
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Adelaide, drift capital
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May 2004
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Re: Install of shift light in a Sprinter (4ac)
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Wed, 06 April 2005 13:50
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| TE72_Turbo wrote on Wed, 06 April 2005 21:43 |
I tried to blow up a 4ac on the weekend, sat it in the driveway in neutral and buried the accelerator, it already had a blown headgasket, but the multimeter tacho showed 7560 rpm
Didn't need a shift light though, and you definately wouldn't see the sunrise, cause past 7000rpm it was spewing that much oil onto the windscreen from the valve cover breather (no bonnet) that you would have known it was time to change cogs
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lol.
Last year for we had our annual engine endutrance test at uni, and I used a 4AC
We ran the motor on the ground, no water...very little oil, on full throttle. The thing ran from dead cold on full throttle for 4mins and 10 seconds before it shat itself and seized. Everyone was very impressed. After 2 mins it spat out every bit of oil and ran making a fuckload of smoke for the remaining 2. Apparently it was some uni record, and was the first time a toyota motor was used for the endurance test!
I want to try it this year with a 4AGE, but unlike the 4AC, I will actaully have to pay for it :s
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Central Coast, NSW
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February 2005
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Re: Install of shift light in a Sprinter (4ac)
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Wed, 06 April 2005 14:23
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| Callifo wrote on Tue, 15 March 2005 23:16 |
And if it could, your 'expert' shifting aint going to beat any* car on the road.
*possibly except really old single cam excels
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awww let him have his rice would you!
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