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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Sun, 13 March 2005 06:06
 
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GOT DISH ALRIGHT!!!!!!
im having trouble picking my jaw up of the floor........
from my second storey balcony!!
quick question though, who is your photographer of those mad broadside pics and how much does he charge?
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Adelaide
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January 2004
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Sun, 13 March 2005 11:09
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| mr2drift wrote on Sat, 12 March 2005 06:39 |
thats not very nice
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lol arc up!
im just kidding man, new rims look tuff as 
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Tue, 15 March 2005 12:30
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ahahahahaha it has massive track now, so unbelievably stable at any speed, and slides soooo smoothly and predictably...
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Tue, 15 March 2005 12:43
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| mr2drift wrote on Tue, 15 March 2005 23:30 |
ahahahahaha it has massive track now, so unbelievably stable at any speed, and slides soooo smoothly and predictably...
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not as if it didnt already 
just a question mate when your on the drift track what revs are u pulling around turn 2 at QR you know the high speed one? i just want to know because your engine sounds quiet and doesnt seem to be reving hard. one of the smoothest engine notes ive ever heard on a drift track
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Tue, 15 March 2005 13:19
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mmmm expensive wheels...
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Tue, 15 March 2005 15:00
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those dish mags are just awesome...
I want some...
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Tue, 15 March 2005 16:08
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hey man, was good to see your car at qld raceway.. i dunno if you saw me there but i was with phil, you were doin well till the clutch problems, car looks awesome in person
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Tue, 15 March 2005 20:43
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around turn 2 the car is pullin between 7500 and 8000 rpm in third, but it/ll hold that all the time, we are gonna be pullin the centermuffler out, cause we feel its restricting airflow just a bit too much, so we'll see what happens..
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Wed, 16 March 2005 08:07
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| mr2drift wrote on Wed, 16 March 2005 07:43 |
around turn 2 the car is pullin between 7500 and 8000 rpm in third, but it/ll hold that all the time, we are gonna be pullin the centermuffler out, cause we feel its restricting airflow just a bit too much, so we'll see what happens..
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should be interesting, you can see the car moving at a good speed  , you see wheels smoking good enough  but you hear not much 
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Thu, 17 March 2005 01:11
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i could hear your clutch getting the shit worked out of it, you probably clutched more on that day than i have in my car ever
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Fri, 18 March 2005 13:43
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bit worried about the clutch actually, the new gearbox has a leaky front main seal, and the clutch is slipping badly, so box is comin out again tomorrow
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Fri, 18 March 2005 13:59
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see.. cars are fun............................................... ........................
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Fri, 18 March 2005 15:48
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brand new engine and the rear main seal leaks?
throw that junk thro the engine builders bedroom windoqw...
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Fri, 18 March 2005 20:51
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| Simon-AE86 wrote on Sat, 19 March 2005 02:48 |
brand new engine and the rear main seal leaks?
throw that junk thro the engine builders bedroom windoqw...
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you got it wrong man, the front gearbox seal on my crappy untested spare t50 is leaking, not the engine seal....
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Sat, 19 March 2005 00:44
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oops
then the engine AND the gearbox are junk, throw them through that dudes window
all jokes dude
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Sat, 19 March 2005 01:10
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josh when do you plan to go for a W series box?
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Sat, 19 March 2005 02:03
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am lookin at it asap, have a w58 ready to go, its just a time thing, gotta get clutch and tailshaft done, we have an adaptor for it, but if 1 turns up would love to get a bell housing, but the adaptor will do
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Sat, 19 March 2005 03:57
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my front main in my t50 is leaking too... how much ya rekn to reco it and the syncros and MAYBE 1,2,3 quiafe straightcut gears in too
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Sat, 19 March 2005 04:30
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reco = 700
gears = 1500
cheaper to fit a stronger box garth
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Sat, 19 March 2005 05:04
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LOl update, turns out to not be either. front box seal intact not a spot of oil, rear engine main spotless many leaks from edge of sump , need new sealant and gasket, so now gotta put whole thing togeather then drop the crossmember out to take the sump off 
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Sat, 19 March 2005 05:23
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| Simon-AE86 wrote on Sat, 19 March 2005 02:18 |
brand new engine and the rear main seal leaks?
throw that junk thro the engine builders bedroom windoqw...
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sorry but i had too
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Sat, 19 March 2005 06:58
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| Simon-AE86 wrote on Sat, 19 March 2005 15:30 |
reco = 700
gears = 1500
cheaper to fit a stronger box garth
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yeah i know but i like to keep it original simmo, u know that.
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Sat, 19 March 2005 08:32
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| ae86drift wrote on Sat, 19 March 2005 17:58 |
| Simon-AE86 wrote on Sat, 19 March 2005 15:30 |
reco = 700
gears = 1500
cheaper to fit a stronger box garth
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yeah i know but i like to keep it original simmo, u know that.
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PFFFT at the expense of performance garth at the expense of performance....
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Sat, 19 March 2005 08:55
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| ae86drift wrote on Sat, 19 March 2005 17:28 |
| Simon-AE86 wrote on Sat, 19 March 2005 15:30 |
reco = 700
gears = 1500
cheaper to fit a stronger box garth
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yeah i know but i like to keep it original simmo, u know that.
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garth honestly you would spend $2K on a box that will probably break again anyway just becuase of originality?
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Sat, 19 March 2005 09:09
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yeah i would
the w58 is stronger but what about the ratios?
and isnt it 6 spd?
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Sat, 19 March 2005 09:12
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no its not
and as for ratios. W55 or W57 is the way to go, they are as close to t50 as u will get
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Sat, 19 March 2005 09:19
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ok sik
does the w55/w57 come in a locally delivered car? which?
and what about clutches? same?
price?
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Sat, 19 March 2005 09:20
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nah need new clutch.
comes in celcia's n shit.
do a search fuckface. theres so much info on these cars.
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Sat, 19 March 2005 09:25
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meh, why search when i have you lol
ill stick with a t50 i think with billet dog gears and new syncros i dont think ill have to worry about it breaking with my pansy drifting lol
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Sat, 19 March 2005 09:35
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yeah but the question will always remain in your mind...i have just spent $2200 on a poo ass T50, WHAT IF IT BREAKS!
you convert to a W series box and once the conversion is done, i.e. clutch/bellhousing/tailshaft/etc etc, if you still break which would be hard, you can get a W55 or W57 out of an RA60 for $100 down here in adelaide from U Pull It and Bammo done! (not that you would break it anyway)
you could convert to W57 for about $1000 if you were handy and then you will never have to change the gearbox ever again.
p.s. LMAO @ fuckface 
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Sat, 19 March 2005 09:37
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yeah but fuckign hell, custom job and a half
and the gears still wont be straightcut closies...
im a purist GAH i hate it
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Sat, 19 March 2005 11:30
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| ae86drift wrote on Sat, 19 March 2005 20:37 |
yeah but fuckign hell, custom job and a half
and the gears still wont be straightcut closies...
im a purist GAH i hate it
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i would'nt say fucface, just TOOL man its such an easy swap, and reliable..
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Sat, 19 March 2005 14:14
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hey i resent that
isnt a close-ratio fully-reco'd dogbox better than a std old but strong one?
im only gunna be running an NA 210hp flywheel 4age thru it anyhow...
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Sat, 19 March 2005 14:38
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isnt a close-ratio fully-reco'd dogbox better than a std old but strong one?
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not when it breaks, and no not for the cash that u will have to spend, fuckface
lol all jokes
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Sat, 19 March 2005 14:42
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ok fuckfaces
lol
why would it break?
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Sat, 19 March 2005 15:32
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garth,
pull a T50 apart, pull a W57/58 apart...
compare the sheer size difference of the gears ffs
straight cut boxes are also notchy dude
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Sat, 19 March 2005 15:37
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garth is a massiv bellend and i am drunk
but yeah. tree fiddy boxes are shithouse!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Duble Yyou boxes rock
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Sat, 19 March 2005 23:29
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i like notchy straight cut gears
fuck you all im doing the ne0-t50
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Sun, 20 March 2005 01:26
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| ae86drift wrote on Sun, 20 March 2005 10:29 |
i like notchy straight cut gears
fuck you all im doing the ne0-t50
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dude notchy from straight cut gears isnt like tight from gear to gear, you basically have to crunch it from gear to gear, therefore more stress than normal
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Sun, 20 March 2005 01:38
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you're a wally
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Sun, 20 March 2005 01:38
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i know what a close ratio dog box is guys... lol
i realise its more synchro stress but any dog box is
t50, w57 or otherwise.
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Sun, 20 March 2005 02:11
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dog box not needed if you go W57...
its the simplest language i could think of
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Sun, 20 March 2005 04:21
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wtf?
how is a w57 going give me closer ratio dog boxed gears?
i want close ratio.
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Sun, 20 March 2005 04:24
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close ratio wont make u a sicker drifter
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Sun, 20 March 2005 04:28
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MWAHAHAHAHA funny shit simo
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Sun, 20 March 2005 05:17
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jsut swap the god damn box
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Sun, 20 March 2005 05:56
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Hey Garth for around $1400 I'll be pretty much running a bulletproof 'box, which then will enable me to run a bigger clutch then what is usually behind a 4agte. I've got a W58, albeit at mates rates, plus the Niteparts bellhousing which was expensive yes, but then I can run a 230mm clutch, which wouldnt hurt behind an N/A 4age either I would think. My T-50 felt dodgy behind the 4ac, let alone behind a 4age or even gz/te. For the amount of money you're going to spend on dog-gears for a T-50, you might aswell get a W58, 4a bellhousing and beefy clutch for around 1/2 the price of a dog-box, also being safe in the knowledge that you could give the thing absolute hell behind your 4age and it wont hurt it one bit. I'd be mighty pissed if my big-dollar T-50 spat the biscuit after a bit of abuse, when you could do the W58 swap in no time at all, you'd never have to touch the 'box again. Originality VS reliability/strength, I sure as hell know which one I'd go for, even if it means a bit more weight from the W58. 
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Sun, 20 March 2005 07:02
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Very sensible answer that one!
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Sun, 20 March 2005 14:12
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ok you experts, answer me these questions 3... or more
so what kinda clutches can i get for a w57/58
which w box is better?
now much are niteparts 4a housings?
is the shifter position the same?
do i need to cut anything or move any crossmember mounts?
can i get a shortshift for a w series?
and from where?
does it weigh much more?
do i have to modify the tailshaft to accmodate?
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Sun, 20 March 2005 16:41
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ok you experts, answer me these questions 3... or more
so what kinda clutches can i get for a w57/58
which w box is better?
now much are niteparts 4a housings?
is the shifter position the same?
do i need to cut anything or move any crossmember mounts?
can i get a shortshift for a w series?
and from where?
does it weigh much more?
do i have to modify the tailshaft to accmodate?
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DAMMIT garth.......
ANy clutch you like, custom anything
Niteparts approx 700 ( but others are out there just look)
three shifter options on w boxes so can be same or choose forward or back
redrill w crossmember to suit sprinter floor
shortshifter easy
weight PFFFTT (like you drive your car hard enough to make it matter)
Yes custom tailshaft.
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Sun, 20 March 2005 22:15
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| mr2drift wrote on Mon, 21 March 2005 03:11 |
| ae86drift wrote on Mon, 21 March 2005 01:12 |
ok you experts, answer me these questions 3... or more
so what kinda clutches can i get for a w57/58
which w box is better?
now much are niteparts 4a housings?
is the shifter position the same?
do i need to cut anything or move any crossmember mounts?
can i get a shortshift for a w series?
and from where?
does it weigh much more?
do i have to modify the tailshaft to accmodate?
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DAMMIT garth.......
ANy clutch you like, custom anything
Niteparts approx 700 ( but others are out there just look)
three shifter options on w boxes so can be same or choose forward or back
redrill w crossmember to suit sprinter floor
shortshifter easy
weight PFFFTT (like you drive your car hard enough to make it matter)
Yes custom tailshaft.
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you dont necessarily need a niteparts bellhousings, there are other ones on the market that go for around $450, just dont get the dellow ones because they dont fit, and dellow are rather gay to deal with.
but just to reiterate on what josh has said, all of that shit is easy to get, as the W series boxes were actually used in more cars than T50's and there are a host of aftermarket parts for them, including short shifters I know it shocked me too
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Sun, 20 March 2005 22:48
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| ae86drift wrote on Mon, 21 March 2005 01:12 |
ok you experts, answer me these questions 3... or more
so what kinda clutches can i get for a w57/58
which w box is better?
now much are niteparts 4a housings?
is the shifter position the same?
do i need to cut anything or move any crossmember mounts?
can i get a shortshift for a w series?
and from where?
does it weigh much more?
do i have to modify the tailshaft to accmodate?
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* any clutch, I'll be using a 4agze flywheel so a clutch to suit that but which will also happily put up with 200hp.
*I went W58 because they seemed the most common, plus my gearbox mate gets 20 of the fuckers on a pallet from his supplier every couple of months lol, so it was convenient, plus I know its strong.
*My Niteparts bellhousing was well over $800, but that was the sacrifice to be able to run a bigger clutch.
*My shifter is about an inch further forward now with the W58 I think, but the shifter does have a bit of a rearwards angle on it, so pretty much the same spot as T-50 I think, you've just got to make sure you get the 1st or 2nd shifter position.
*Yeh the W58 is a bit heavier than the T-50 so just strip some weight out of the hatch lol.
*Yeh custom tailshaft, will set you back all of about $200.
[Updated on: Sun, 20 March 2005 22:50]
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Wed, 23 March 2005 09:12
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w 58 aquired as it has closer ratios 1-4 ( only marginally, and 4.6 diff gears are being rebearinged and having my trd 2 way installed nect week. happy days bring on 4th gear mega slides!
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Wed, 23 March 2005 10:45
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so what... do you need to modify the interior plastic surround for the shifter posi? or does it fit straight up thru the chassis and the plastic?
$500 for a reconditoned w58?
$900 for a niteparts bellhousing?
$200 for a custom driveshaft
$250 for a c's shortshifter
is all this really required for an 200hp NA 4age?
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Wed, 23 March 2005 12:23
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well ive smashed one jap spec t50 and ive only got 160hp, so yes its very necessary... and when or if it breaks its only $350 for a w58 so easy to replace not like an $1800 set of gears for a t50.. i know my choice...
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Re: mr2drift's 86 engines back!
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Sat, 26 March 2005 00:58
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heres a shot of them overall, crappy resoloution tho, i sooo need a digital camera!
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Re: mr2drift's 86 drift toy
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Sun, 27 March 2005 02:37
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*droooooooooollll*
Fine, damn fine....
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Re: mr2drift's 86 drift toy
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Sun, 27 March 2005 07:57
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So what bodywork was done to fit the wheels?
Rolled guards .. and?
I had my eyes on those wheels (option1?)
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Re: mr2drift's 86 drift toy
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Sun, 27 March 2005 12:16
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nope these were from another friend, they came in on one of his cefiro's stuck out like 3 inches from the guards on it....
just so happens they fitted my bodywork already, hehe but good luck putten em under stock bodywork. read previous in the thread to see how the guards were done.....
ohh and just a teaser of another set of rims we are cleaning up at the moment......
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