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Re: Toyo, Kumho, Hankook.. Which one?
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Wed, 30 March 2005 07:27
 
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Quite a few guys from the Soarer club won't buy anything but the Kumho Ecsta 712 tyres. Obviously it's their opinion, but I'll probably join them when I get my next set of tyres.
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Toymods Vice President
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May 2002
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Re: Toyo, Kumho, Hankook.. Which one?
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Wed, 30 March 2005 07:41
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The ECSTA's are really nice for the amount of grip you get for the money but they also weigh a tonne.
I guess that's what compromises are about.
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Toronto, Downtown
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September 2004
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Re: Toyo, Kumho, Hankook.. Which one?
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Wed, 30 March 2005 07:51
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how much are a539's?
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Sydney
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April 2003
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Re: Toyo, Kumho, Hankook.. Which one?
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Wed, 30 March 2005 08:13
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if you can stretch the budget to about $150/$160 a corner, i'd recommend some Yokohama A539's. awesome tyre in my opinion, plenty of grip, car feels solid through corners, nice feedback through the wheel, ive got them on Superlites, also with stock AE86 suspension. they're 205/50R15's. 
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Toronto, Downtown
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September 2004
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Re: Toyo, Kumho, Hankook.. Which one?
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Wed, 30 March 2005 08:36
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i have also used a539's amongst other tyres and i reckon they are probably the best mid range tyre around.
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I supported Toymods
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Perth, WA
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May 2003
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Re: Toyo, Kumho, Hankook.. Which one?
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Wed, 30 March 2005 09:19
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bridgestone potenza g3 is around 120 i believe
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Melbourne
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March 2004
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Re: Toyo, Kumho, Hankook.. Which one?
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Wed, 30 March 2005 11:19
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I've got those Toyos (205/55R15) on my car and they're pretty good... but that's compared to the cheapo 195/60R14's I used to have, so it may just be placebo. They've worn out pretty quick with occasional bursts of spirited driving.
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Newcastle
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July 2003
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Re: Toyo, Kumho, Hankook.. Which one?
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Wed, 30 March 2005 11:23
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| 4agte wrote on Wed, 30 March 2005 18:36 |
i have also used a539's amongst other tyres and i reckon they are probably the best mid range tyre around.
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really ? ive absolutly hated the a539. knocked the steering out, handled like shit and that as in the dry. wet was worse. very unimpressed with them.
ive always liked the good year gs-d2 but they have just been dropped. ive got a set of goodyear revspecs on the mr2 atm and they seem good but i still think the gs-d2 was a hint nicer. im keen to try out som gs-d3's next time aournd.\ as ive heard nothing but good things about them.
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Campbelltown, NSW, Austra...
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January 2004
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Re: Toyo, Kumho, Hankook.. Which one?
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Wed, 30 March 2005 12:02
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mmm, i'd go a bridgestone. I've got hancooks on my car, albeit only the 866 radials (budget), but i find they grip in the dry only average, in the wet they can be pretty bad.
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I supported Toymods
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melbourne
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June 2002
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Re: Toyo, Kumho, Hankook.. Which one?
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Wed, 30 March 2005 12:28
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a friend of mine who recently joine the brotherhood of the hachi roku just bought a set of G3s on 14 inch rims, he is happy with them.
i'm more of a tightass, so i bought dorals, my car sjould be back on the road this weekend, so if you dont hear from me again, dont buy dorals.
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I Supported Toymods
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Wollongong, NSW
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December 2003
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Re: Toyo, Kumho, Hankook.. Which one?
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Thu, 31 March 2005 00:21
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I'll be needing the same size tyres on the front of my AE102 soon. Grip is important to me, so I might look at those Kuhmos. Though everyone seems to like the Bridgestones too.
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Terrigal
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May 2002
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Re: Toyo, Kumho, Hankook.. Which one?
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Thu, 31 March 2005 00:44
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Thanks for the comments guys.
Does anyone know the difference between the Kumho 711s and 712s?
Cheers
Joel
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Melbourne
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January 2003
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Re: Toyo, Kumho, Hankook.. Which one?
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Thu, 31 March 2005 01:24
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There the replacement , the 711 is not available in some sizes
I have them as daily driving tyres atm , shit stuff really for grip , lots of comfort {smoke real good if you are into that}.
The dunlop lm901 i think thats the model ? which where on last where better , but the rear tyres started to delaminate at the outer edges and then started to bubble in the sidewalls so they had to go . The dunlops didn't last 5000ish k's and the directional pattern radial pulled big time . Good in the wet on the track for a road tyre .
Normally all my car have yoko's fitted just that all the rims i have purchased lately seem to have crappy tyres already . With the yoko's the 539 are a great tyre , just work crappy if the car has rubbish suspension geometry . It might take some time fine tuning the alignment but well worth it , just got 40.000+ k's {three years driving}out of the 539's on the old bmw and are now going to replace them with the newer model tyre the c drive . I have driven the 539 on lots of cars from camry's to alfa's and as a all round tyre they are hard to beat on price .
Bridgestones seem to always have rock sidewalls , when they are new this is great with really sharp driving . But as the years get on there compounds seem to go hard with age , then there wet grip gets scary in light cars .
Toyo's , there pricing always seems high and there discontinue the tyre so fast that if you need just two replaced due to wear then by that stage there no available and you have to go another set of run different tyres ! they where trying to flog off some semi slicks at one stage , and after some research i found that they where four year old models left overs which must have been dumped here to get rid of .
Hankook , yeah great truck tyres 
Michelin's , there semi slicks with the duel compound are the most unpredictable tyre i have every driven on , and Jim Richard complained no end about the crappy tyres in the Porsche Cup . There road tyres don't last any distance , they start to powder and maybe brake down in the sun ? To much money for the value for sure .
Falkens , yeah noisy , so cheap there semi slick if you where not doing many k's you might as well uses them for normal tyres . There road tyres make you think the wheelbearings are gone there so loud .
Goodyear , NOT , direction tyres are once again noisy , there tyres always last since there so bloody hard , double there wear rating and you might be there .
Pirelli's , are there the best tyres on the planet , well at there cost they should be . Most pirellis never last till the tread wear indicators since the sidewalls will bubble and bulge due to road inpacks by then . We use to remove they p6000 from a unnamed european car due to the tyres squealed so bad that you couldn't show people the cars handling without scaring them . The removed tyres where given to a apprentice which used them as burnout tyres on his 195kw vp commodore , he loved them they seem to last and last the burnouts with ease .
Continental , don't buy them you might have to import one tyre if you need to replace one seen there cars being sold with models which are not stocked here , don't laugh i have seen this happen . Most of there tyres are designed with fuel economy in mind .
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South Australia
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July 2002
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Re: Toyo, Kumho, Hankook.. Which one?
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Thu, 31 March 2005 01:50
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Bridgestones seem to always have rock sidewalls , when they are new this is great with really sharp driving . But as the years get on there compounds seem to go hard with age , then there wet grip gets scary in light cars .
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Not in my experience, Potenza G3s (who said they were $120 per corner? I've never seen 'em less than $180, especially for 15's) and RE711's have very weak sidewalls, I'd say that my biggest complaint with them is how much the sidewall squishes under hard cornering! Wet grip is a bit dicey as they get older.
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I Supported Toymods
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Sydney
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Re: Toyo, Kumho, Hankook.. Which one?
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Thu, 31 March 2005 01:56
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| FWDboy wrote on Thu, 31 March 2005 11:50 |
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Bridgestones seem to always have rock sidewalls , when they are new this is great with really sharp driving . But as the years get on there compounds seem to go hard with age , then there wet grip gets scary in light cars .
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Not in my experience, Potenza G3s (who said they were $120 per corner? I've never seen 'em less than $180, especially for 15's) and RE711's have very weak sidewalls, I'd say that my biggest complaint with them is how much the sidewall squishes under hard cornering! Wet grip is a bit dicey as they get older.
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Bloody oath!
I have potenza's on my stock rims and the compound has gone rock solid after leaving them in the shed for a year or so... I put them back on when my 17's were running low on tread.
In the rain the compound was useless!
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Campbelltown
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November 2003
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Re: Toyo, Kumho, Hankook.. Which one?
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Thu, 31 March 2005 02:00
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i have a wheels mag that compares premium replacemenst etc and it gives the gong to the A539 it wins all but two categories in the comparo and those that it didn't win it came third. Just my 2 cents.
Our Pajero came with Yokohamas stock and the tyres only lasted like 20000km just a note thats all, things may have changed since then but they didn't wear as well as competitors just talking Yokohama in general hear. The firestone firehawk's that we used to run after that lasted anywhere up to 80000km
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Terrigal
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Re: Toyo, Kumho, Hankook.. Which one?
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Thu, 31 March 2005 02:06
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I got a price on the yoko a539s, $135 per tyre. But heard both good & bad comments about these.
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South Australia
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July 2002
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Re: Toyo, Kumho, Hankook.. Which one?
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Thu, 31 March 2005 03:13
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| Toobs wrote on Thu, 31 March 2005 11:26 |
| FWDboy wrote on Thu, 31 March 2005 11:50 |
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Bridgestones seem to always have rock sidewalls , when they are new this is great with really sharp driving . But as the years get on there compounds seem to go hard with age , then there wet grip gets scary in light cars .
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Not in my experience, Potenza G3s (who said they were $120 per corner? I've never seen 'em less than $180, especially for 15's) and RE711's have very weak sidewalls, I'd say that my biggest complaint with them is how much the sidewall squishes under hard cornering! Wet grip is a bit dicey as they get older.
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Bloody oath!
I have potenza's on my stock rims and the compound has gone rock solid after leaving them in the shed for a year or so... I put them back on when my 17's were running low on tread.
In the rain the compound was useless!
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That's wierd, I'm about to try some old tyres (like a year old or so) in a week or two so I guess I'll know then! It could be climate related as well, I'm not sure whereabouts you live but humidity or some other atmospheric condition could alter the lifetime of stored tyres?
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Re: Toyo, Kumho, Hankook.. Which one?
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Thu, 31 March 2005 03:43
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| toof wrote on Wed, 30 March 2005 21:23 |
| 4agte wrote on Wed, 30 March 2005 18:36 |
i have also used a539's amongst other tyres and i reckon they are probably the best mid range tyre around.
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really ? ive absolutly hated the a539. knocked the steering out, handled like shit and that as in the dry. wet was worse. very unimpressed with them.
ive always liked the good year gs-d2 but they have just been dropped. ive got a set of goodyear revspecs on the mr2 atm and they seem good but i still think the gs-d2 was a hint nicer. im keen to try out som gs-d3's next time aournd.\ as ive heard nothing but good things about them.
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you must have had a differnet set of a539's to me as mine were awesome better than the gIII's i had
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I supported Toymods
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Perth
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Re: Toyo, Kumho, Hankook.. Which one?
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Thu, 31 March 2005 03:55
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MY RE711's after a few years still shit on my current tyres from a great height in terms of wet and dry grip, even though they are partially worn. Needless to say, the XX will be receiving G3's.
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I Supported Toymods
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Wollongong, NSW
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December 2003
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Re: Toyo, Kumho, Hankook.. Which one?
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Sun, 03 April 2005 23:24
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Joel, where did you get those prices in the first post from? A major distributor or someone local up your way?
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Terrigal
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Re: Toyo, Kumho, Hankook.. Which one?
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Sun, 03 April 2005 23:50
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Those prices were just local places up my way.
Totally confused now what one to get though.. I think i'll go the kuhmo's as most reviews put them in the middle/upper section of the tests they do.
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Newcastle
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July 2003
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Re: Toyo, Kumho, Hankook.. Which one?
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Mon, 04 April 2005 00:27
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| 4agte wrote on Thu, 31 March 2005 13:43 |
| toof wrote on Wed, 30 March 2005 21:23 |
| 4agte wrote on Wed, 30 March 2005 18:36 |
i have also used a539's amongst other tyres and i reckon they are probably the best mid range tyre around.
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really ? ive absolutly hated the a539. knocked the steering out, handled like shit and that as in the dry. wet was worse. very unimpressed with them.
ive always liked the good year gs-d2 but they have just been dropped. ive got a set of goodyear revspecs on the mr2 atm and they seem good but i still think the gs-d2 was a hint nicer. im keen to try out som gs-d3's next time aournd.\ as ive heard nothing but good things about them.
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you must have had a differnet set of a539's to me as mine were awesome better than the gIII's i had
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i must have gotten a dud set of 539's i thought they were rubbish. still do  but heaps of people seem to give them the thumbs up.
im starting to think the goodyear RS-02's ive got on the aw11 atm have hardened up from storage shade, they are supposedly goodyears best performin road tyre.. accoring to goodyear but i think they are *ok* not anythign spectacular but ok. probaly just casue they have been sitting around for yonks,.
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NSW
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September 2003
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Re: Toyo, Kumho, Hankook.. Which one?
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Mon, 04 April 2005 01:12
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Yeah I'm not overly impressed with the A539's either. Great tyre for the price but not really a high performance tyre. Sorry I have to bum out on the Ecsta's too... really noisy, worse than Yoko's.
I have a problem with Hyundai's so I don't personally like Korean tyres like Kuhmo and Hankook... go the Jap tyres.
Best tyres I ever had were Toyo Proxes T1S's, $185 each and the were truly a beautiful tyre... only got 14000k's out of them though but the grip was unbeliavable and the car acted so predictable on turn-in.
I just priced some Toyo Proxes for $159 each 195/50 15R.
Michellin Pilot Precedas $172 or the new budget priced Yoko C-Drive $140... Other good tyres... Falkens & Bridgestone Potenza.
Tyre guys must love rainy periods.
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I supported Toymods
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Epping, Sydney
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Re: Toyo, Kumho, Hankook.. Which one?
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Mon, 04 April 2005 01:46
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on the same topic, but for different wheels... 235-255/40R17 - what do you guys recommend? I've heard the falkens delaminate under extreme condition (ie, track use) so they're a no go. I'm currently looking at hankook K104, as they're great bang for buck. I'm willing to spend over $250 per corner... as long as I get great dry weather grip, safe wet weather grip, and a half decent life outta the tyre (although I am not expecting too much in this category). any suggestions?
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