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Project 2JZ gets more gears
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Thu, 31 March 2005 23:32
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Once again John from ImportBitz has come through with the goods:
Just gotta wait 8 weeks for the container to arrive from Japan. 
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I supported Toymods
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Re: Project 2JZ gets more gears
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Thu, 31 March 2005 23:45
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Haha, that is AWESOME! V160 or V161?
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Re: Project 2JZ gets more gears
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Fri, 01 April 2005 01:38
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Looks like a V161 but can't be sure until the box arrives. The car it came out of was an SZ-R, ie atmo 2JZ-GE, so hopefully that means the box has had a pretty easy life. 
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Re: Project 2JZ gets more gears
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Fri, 01 April 2005 02:04
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Hehe, respect
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Melbourne
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May 2002
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Re: Project 2JZ gets more gears
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Fri, 01 April 2005 02:26
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so where do you find a F series diff ratio to fit that???
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Re: Project 2JZ gets more gears
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Fri, 01 April 2005 03:02
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Haha, you dont
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Adelaide
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September 2003
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Re: Project 2JZ gets more gears
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Fri, 01 April 2005 03:11
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| justcallmefrank wrote on Fri, 01 April 2005 12:32 |
Haha, you dont
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Where there is a will, Norbs will find a way.
People told Justen that a G series diff wouldn't fit in the back of the GpA, but it did. !!!
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Re: Project 2JZ gets more gears
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Fri, 01 April 2005 03:38
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This is true. Although it isn't that bad, first gear would be the worst.
These are speeds for 7000rpm changes:
Gearbox/Diff
V160/3.54 1st-61.9 2nd-100.4 3rd-140.6 4th-180.6 5th-236.9 6th-298.8
V161/3.54 1st-63.6 2nd-105.5 3rd-153.7 4th-196.6 5th-236.9 6th-289.7
R154/3.54 1st-72.8 2nd-121.2 3rd-180.9 4th-236.9 5th-314.7
W58/3.54 1st-72.1 2nd-125.1 3rd-185.8 4th-236.9 5th-302.6
W58/4.1 1st-62.2 2nd-108.0 3rd-160.4 4th-180.6 5th-261.3
Yes, and before you ask, I am bored.
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Re: Project 2JZ gets more gears
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Fri, 01 April 2005 03:41
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woot... go W58 with the 4.1 YEA!
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Re: Project 2JZ gets more gears
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Fri, 01 April 2005 03:56
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Okay, they're a little bit out because I needed to do it for 3.58 instead of 3.54, but they're close enough for comparison.
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Toymods Social Secretary
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Re: Project 2JZ gets more gears
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Fri, 01 April 2005 04:24
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woooo.
now before you go and get all gloaty....
*SLAP* <--you know what that is for!
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Perth
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October 2003
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Re: Project 2JZ gets more gears
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Fri, 01 April 2005 05:47
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| justcallmefrank wrote on Fri, 01 April 2005 13:08 |
This is true. Although it isn't that bad, first gear would be the worst.
These are speeds for 7000rpm changes:
Gearbox/Diff
V160/3.54 1st-61.9 2nd-100.4 3rd-140.6 4th-180.6 5th-236.9 6th-298.8
V161/3.54 1st-63.6 2nd-105.5 3rd-153.7 4th-196.6 5th-236.9 6th-289.7
R154/3.54 1st-72.8 2nd-121.2 3rd-180.9 4th-236.9 5th-314.7
W58/3.54 1st-72.1 2nd-125.1 3rd-185.8 4th-236.9 5th-302.6
W58/4.1 1st-62.2 2nd-108.0 3rd-160.4 4th-180.6 5th-261.3
Yes, and before you ask, I am bored.
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But Norbs has a W57 at the moment .....
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Re: Project 2JZ gets more gears
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Fri, 01 April 2005 05:58
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This is true, so look at the W58 one and then drop off some kph from the 5th gear one He's had both, and the W57 was just a temporary measure 
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Re: Project 2JZ gets more gears
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Fri, 01 April 2005 06:18
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| justcallmefrank wrote on Fri, 01 April 2005 15:28 |
This is true, so look at the W58 one and then drop off some kph from the 5th gear one He's had both, and the W57 was just a temporary measure
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Yeah, but you're bored remember .....
Anyway, after a short ride in the car, it is a bloody bullet in first gear as it is with the 3.58, let alone what it will be like with the 6 speeder.
Mind you, 9km/hr difference at about 280+ is not worth worrying about...
As an interesting point, the new Aisan 6 speed box used in the SV6 Crumpledore has a 2.87:1 final drive ratio !!!!!!
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Re: Project 2JZ gets more gears
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Fri, 01 April 2005 06:26
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hgow much for the box if you dont mind me asking norbie?
Also, what sort of tranny tunnel/shifter position problems do you expect to encounter?
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Re: Project 2JZ gets more gears
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Fri, 01 April 2005 06:34
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| draven wrote on Fri, 01 April 2005 15:56 |
hgow much for the box if you dont mind me asking norbie?
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A better price than you or I wopuld pay
Norbs has a good relationship with John 
Lucky bastard ....
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Re: Project 2JZ gets more gears
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Fri, 01 April 2005 09:03
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| justcallmefrank wrote on Fri, 01 April 2005 13:38 |
R154/3.54 1st-72.8 2nd-121.2 3rd-180.9 4th-236.9 5th-314.7
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314.7km/h... nice
Any idea what the R154 does in front of a 3.78 diff ?
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Re: Project 2JZ gets more gears
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Fri, 01 April 2005 09:32
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Haha thanks JCMF, damn you must have been bored. Not a huge difference in first between the W58 and V161, so hopefully it will work out ok. Mind you, I haven't ruled out the possibility of an A series diff conversion...
Draven: I expect retail price would have been around the $3k mark, but obviously that depends how much the box goes for in Japan. I've seen a difference of over $1k in the selling price over there.
What problems am I expecting? Lots of them.
Shortening the shifter mechanism is an option but Stenno reckons I should leave it be and butcher my transmission tunnel instead. I'll decide that one after taking a few measurements. The tunnel will also need some serious "adjustment" to accomodate the extra width towards the rear of the box... I'm hoping I can do this with a BFH and lots of elbow grease, but I suspect it will be necessary to cut and shut. Once again, we'll have to wait and see.
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Re: Project 2JZ gets more gears
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Fri, 01 April 2005 09:57
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No problems mate. 1st gear will be the only problem, probably akin to your original setup pre Truetrac and 3.58.
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Re: Project 2JZ gets more gears
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Fri, 01 April 2005 11:24
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norbs, how much?
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Re: Project 2JZ gets more gears
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Fri, 01 April 2005 12:05
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mr 1ggte - it has been inferred by previous posts that this info wont be let loose, and for good reason.
V161's are NOT CHEAP. lets just leave it at that.
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Re: Project 2JZ gets more gears
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Fri, 01 April 2005 14:13
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First off congrats. This is serious kickass material.
| Norbie wrote on Fri, 01 April 2005 19:32 |
The tunnel will also need some serious "adjustment" to accomodate the extra width towards the rear of the box... I'm hoping I can do this with a BFH and lots of elbow grease, but I suspect it will be necessary to cut and shut.
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Before you go wacko and cut and shut (mind you I had to do this in the Crown to adequately fit the A340), try drilling a hole, screw in a screw and weld it in place to firmly secure it and then try and "pull" the tunnel into shape with a slide hammer and appropriate attachment. Sure beats using the sledgy under the car.
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Re: Project 2JZ gets more gears
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Sat, 02 April 2005 02:05
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| THE WITZL wrote on Fri, 01 April 2005 21:35 |
mr 1ggte - it has been inferred by previous posts that this info wont be let loose, and for good reason.
V161's are NOT CHEAP. lets just leave it at that.
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Re: Project 2JZ gets more gears
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Sat, 02 April 2005 04:09
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| gianttomato wrote on Sat, 02 April 2005 00:13 |
Before you go wacko and cut and shut (mind you I had to do this in the Crown to adequately fit the A340), try drilling a hole, screw in a screw and weld it in place to firmly secure it and then try and "pull" the tunnel into shape with a slide hammer and appropriate attachment. Sure beats using the sledgy under the car.
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Good thinking! Methinks I'll try the GT method when the time comes. Believe me I don't want to go butchering my trans tunnel if I can avoid it.
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