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Razor
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Setting up a new Car Shop Sun, 03 April 2005 03:53 Go to next message
Hi

I'm thinking of establishing my own small car repair shop and would like to know how much do you guys think the tools and equipment would cost?
so far I'm thinking of maybe around 2 - 3 hoists, sets of tools, etc
maybe two mechanics for start.

or Smash Repair place
I was thinking this would be more expensive as the equipments are more expensive.

For those who are working as a mechanic by trade, knows someone who owns a shop or owns a shop , and advice would be great.

so far the budget is $500,000 to start.

Cheers!

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Re: Setting up a new Car Shop Sun, 03 April 2005 10:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
bugger that dude by a bakers delight for that price.
u can set up a spray shop for about $300,000
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Re: Setting up a new Car Shop Sun, 03 April 2005 10:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
stuff opening a mechanics workshop, you gotta deal with dickhead customers all day who think you offer a life time warranty. as soon as you lay a spanner on a car, they think every part of the car somehow relates to what you fixed therefor is your fault when it fails.
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Re: Setting up a new Car Shop Sun, 03 April 2005 10:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
performance side of mechanics would be the go more money and people usualy have a beter understanding lol
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Re: Setting up a new Car Shop Sun, 03 April 2005 11:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I highly recommend against getting in the trade or going anywhere near it.
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Re: Setting up a new Car Shop Sun, 03 April 2005 22:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Yeah, My auto-elec buddy says he'd have had a gutful ages ago if He wasn't setting up his stereo installation side-business.

You need a nearly unquenchable appettite for dealing with irate cockheads to tuff-it-out, seriously. People catch a whiff of a bill bigger than what they expected, and lose their friggin minds. This seems to apply to the electrical side more than the mechanical side, but you're still gunna cop it daily.

Have fun! Very Happy
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Re: Setting up a new Car Shop Mon, 04 April 2005 02:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I'm more interested on setting up a Smash Repair shop than mechanic shop but I know 2 very good mechanics already

any sites on equipments with prices???

seen a lot but no prices... I guess they want you to call them and get the price

Im still on planning so need to know costs

cheers for the input
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Re: Setting up a new Car Shop Mon, 04 April 2005 04:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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stuff opening a mechanics workshop, you gotta deal with dickhead customers all day who think you offer a life time warranty. as soon as you lay a spanner on a car, they think every part of the car somehow relates to what you fixed therefor is your fault when it fails.
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I highly recommend against getting in the trade or going anywhere near it.

TOTALY AGREE
the money you have would be better off invested in other places not to mention the stress involved being tied to shitbox cars. The whole automotive industry bar maybe wreckers is FUCKED, to repair a car for $4000 - $8000 may sound like a lot but it is not if the car requires a qualified tradesman on even the shithouse base rate of pay ($18 a hour from memory-not much more than some moron who left school straight for a factory job doing sweeet FA, particaraly as you have to buy your own tools and put up with shit pay for 4 years) to be on it for a week or two then at the painters for another week or so, moral in these industrys is low nobody gives a shit because of the low pay and hard work, so dont expect hardworkers. The smash repair shop is the only industry I know of where some arsehole assesor can walk in, have a look of a quote for a job and then write his own times/price on it and the bosses just sit there and sucks arse. Imagine walking into cash converters say and because your a regular customer you feel you have the right to write your own price on items which infact you know VERY little about, at best the owner will tell you to fuck off and dont waist my time more likely police would be involved. Tradesmen are hard to come across simply because by the time they "graduate" they have been treated like shit for so long the smart ones fuckoff out of the industry to cleaner better paid more respected jobs. could keep going on and on but hopefully the message is clear DONT-DO-IT, custom shops are even worse by the way!!!
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Re: Setting up a new Car Shop Mon, 04 April 2005 04:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i reckon getting into a performance workshop would b fun! i wouldn't want to get into actually body repairs or mechanical repairs, but performance upgrades would b good, like stated above u would get people with a little more knowledge on there cars, but u would also get the boy racers with there Gli Lancers wanting a 4G63 installed so they can pretend they have an evo, even tho it would b FWD and have rear disks.... fully sik mattttttttte
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Re: Setting up a new Car Shop Mon, 04 April 2005 06:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Thats one of my dreams, to finish up with my engineering when im like 35-40 and start a performance/custom building garage, now that would be the shit.
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Re: Setting up a new Car Shop Mon, 04 April 2005 06:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
my mates recently sold his auto elec business.
He used to be a really bright happy guy.

But after owning the business he got really depressed and had to sell it.

From what i was told at college a hoist is worth around 2/3 grand it depends where they lift from.

if it's the drive on type or the pads style one.

Get one of each .
Don't forget u will need materials aswell.
even tho every new business will have teething problems this will reduce the chances.

also if you can try to employ a person who doesn't deal with cars just cutomers and paperwork maybe a wife or daughter or son.
Somebody who can explain things in laymans terms.

It also helps to keep things clean when it's time to do the taxes.

I have u got a shop in mind ?
You will need plenty of parking aswell and if u can a hose off floor.

Also a big bin out the back so good but make sure a truck can get to it.

This is all i can remember at the moment nice time i see him i will ask him more.
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Re: Setting up a new Car Shop Mon, 04 April 2005 07:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
It'd be cheaper to open up a brothel and you'd make more money too.
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Re: Setting up a new Car Shop Mon, 04 April 2005 07:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Farkurnell wrote on Mon, 04 April 2005 17:19

It'd be cheaper to open up a brothel and you'd make more money too.


and more friends hehehe
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Re: Setting up a new Car Shop Mon, 04 April 2005 10:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Farkurnell wrote on Mon, 04 April 2005 17:19

It'd be cheaper to open up a brothel and you'd make more money too.

60 grand for the brothels licence
money left over for the imports to work there Laughing
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Re: Setting up a new Car Shop Mon, 04 April 2005 11:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
haha so you've looked into it Evil or Very Mad
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Re: Setting up a new Car Shop Mon, 04 April 2005 11:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Quote:

any sites on equipments with prices???


Good luck. The trade still thinks EFI is a fad. I don't think they're on the internet just yet.


On the other (more helpful) hand, visit Repco and ask for a workshop equipment catalogue. It's got everything you'll need.

And as long as we're on equipment:

2x hoists
2x toolkits
Insurance for mechanics/employees
Wideband ego sensor w/laptop for road tests
Snapon OBD computer + cards (I insist)
Fire extinguishers (A, B and C)
4 gas analyser (if you're keen)
Lead lights
Insurance for customers cars
Big sturdy benches
Creepers
Great big container for used oil
Steam pressure washer
3 way interceptor (big $$$, EPA req.)
Weatherproof industrial air compressor
Press
On-car brake lathe
Bench drill
Sundries (ie angle grinder, g clamps, drill bits, SST's, jacks, stands)
Big bins for scrap metal as well as ordinary workshop rubbish
Insurance for customers onsite
Personal computers for admin
Fire and villainproof safe

Not to mention a decent clean joint to put it all in; with a seperate lunchroom, loo and reception. Remember insurance for the building and all the crap in it.

The above list is by no means comprehensive. Perhaps I may compile a more concise list for you, if you havent been scared by this one?

When you've taken out a loan to pay for all of that crap, it's dealing with your whinging bitch mechanics and the rest of the trade that's the BIG HEADACHE. Customers can wait.

For the record, light vehicle technician award is $14.88 an hour. No No No

[Updated on: Mon, 04 April 2005 12:27]

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Re: Setting up a new Car Shop Mon, 04 April 2005 11:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
you think so? some places wont even touch carbies nowdays, you have to go to a specialist. and i know they dont even teach carbies at tafe, its an elective module, everything is about EFI and electronics.
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Re: Setting up a new Car Shop Mon, 04 April 2005 12:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
It's just taking the piss.

They taught carbs at my trade school- last year in fact. Old teachers.

[Updated on: Mon, 04 April 2005 13:03]

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Re: Setting up a new Car Shop Mon, 04 April 2005 12:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
EVOSTi wrote on Mon, 04 April 2005 21:39

you think so? some places wont even touch carbies nowdays, you have to go to a specialist. and i know they dont even teach carbies at tafe, its an elective module, everything is about EFI and electronics.


yup, u dont learn anything about carbys nowadays at tafe, pretty bad considering that there are still a fair few carbys around..


oh and any1 who keeps telling razor not to get into the mechanic buisness,

a) he is asking for prices and advice, not ur opinion on whether he should do it or not.
b) if every1 thought fuck it..its not worth becoming a mechanic who would fix our cars?

CHEERS

NOLAN

good luck buddy


[Updated on: Mon, 04 April 2005 12:33]

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Re: Setting up a new Car Shop Mon, 04 April 2005 13:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Every1 IS thinking fuckit.

Automotive repair is a dying trade- mechanics are amongst the most sought after employees in the country.

[Updated on: Mon, 04 April 2005 13:14]

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Re: Setting up a new Car Shop Mon, 04 April 2005 13:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Yea, fuckit.

Get into real estate. You have an awesome starting capital, then just keep using the equity in each property to then buy more.
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Re: Setting up a new Car Shop Mon, 04 April 2005 16:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i suggested my parents get into real estate as they are getting old and i'm sure as hell not paying for their nursing home.

If it's a passion follow it
if you love it you will make it work.

Just aslong as u have support from the people close to you.
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Re: Setting up a new Car Shop Mon, 04 April 2005 22:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hey Mr Smart thanks for that list
I would love to see a more comprehensive list if you have the time to waste on me... Smile

no I wont be borrowing money (good thing) we have the money ready for business!

We are going to start a small mechanic shop then upgrade later on and then add a performance shop then smash repairer on the other side.

I know two very good mechanics already so not a problem there...

Oh anyone knows how much roughly a good space for the shop cost a month to rent? to someone who knows someone who rents one.

cheers everyone for the input.

[Updated on: Mon, 04 April 2005 22:04]

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Re: Setting up a new Car Shop Mon, 04 April 2005 22:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Awesome... Can I get a discount on my timing belt change?? I couldn't be fuggered doing it myself... I've allready got one here... Just change it for me...
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Re: Setting up a new Car Shop Mon, 04 April 2005 23:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
79rollaboy wrote on Tue, 05 April 2005 08:15

Awesome... Can I get a discount on my timing belt change?? I couldn't be fuggered doing it myself... I've allready got one here... Just change it for me...

lol, you drivin up to Brissy just to have a timing belt changed.Even if he did give you a real big discount it'd still be cheaper to have it done down here. Very Happy
OH by the way Razor good luck with your venture.

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Re: Setting up a new Car Shop Tue, 05 April 2005 00:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
thanks

rollaboy would love to but shop is not established yet, still on planning
of course all members on this forums will get discounts!!!
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Re: Setting up a new Car Shop Tue, 05 April 2005 06:27 Go to previous message
rollaboy, come to my work, ill do it cash for cheap on a saturday.

razor, i dunno what prices are like where you are but as a comparrison, my dads old shop about 5 years ago cost about $600 per week, it was on parramatta road which is busy as fuk, could hold 40 cars so he rented out space to a rally team, mix106.5 and a pannel beater to store cars in.
he sold that business for about $50 000 which included 3 hoists, welders, lathes, everything fro a workshop excluding hand tools.
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