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I Supported Toymods
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Re: Playin GT4
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Mon, 04 April 2005 13:35
 
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u guys whinge too much......personally i would like to see u on a track in real life handling a 1000hp gtr or supra on in fact anything.....i havent done it but im sure its not easy....damn even having my sprinter on the track was a work out and thats a stock 4age.....so.....instead of whinging.....enjoy a herbal remedy (like parsley) and then appreciate the game for what it is.....a chance to be one rich bitch and throw some cars around a track....
just try to imagine its for real....u wouldnt enter a corner not giving urself room to recover instead of hitting a wall would u?
so....im not saying this to start no war....i been waiting for this game since GT1....then gt2 and so on....its the best u get without being a rich b1tc# 
and btw im up to 42% and personally i love it....me and my mates take turns doing enduros and give the b-spec guy a shot too and its great....give it a shot
anyways im sorry if i anger ppl....not my intention at all
cheers
Adam
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Melbourne
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June 2004
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Re: Playin GT4
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Mon, 04 April 2005 23:10
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My only beef is the wheelspin, and the simulation (or lack-of) of the diffs.
My 440hp WRX (with full diffs) gets wheelspin in 2nd at 130km/h on "sports tyres"
W.T.F? 
There is just no FREAKIN WAY that could happen i.r.l. in a 4wd with LSD's and sticky semi-slick road-rally tyres (which is what sports tyres in GT4 appear to be). I haven't been able to get a diff to "hook up" in GT4 yet either. Every car just single-spins down the road, even though the pretty pictures show smoke from both wheels. I've tried all the diff settings but can't get the bastard to hook up. 
I.R.L. wheelspin ain't so easy to come by: I know it's 400kg heavier than my GT4 WRX, but an open-diff monaro/GTO coupe struggles to in-gear wheelspin cheap, hard 235's in 1st with 400hp and 545nm ! ! !
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Adelaide
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January 2004
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Re: Playin GT4
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Wed, 06 April 2005 14:30
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You just havent practised enough, for the drifting i mean. I found it difficult at first, but now i can drift almost as good as i could in GT3. The trick to gt4 drift is throttle control. this was also the case in gt3, but not nearly as much.
i even managed to slide the daihatsu midget 2 LOL with massive 88ps and 550 or so kilo, FR and not only does it slide, it links! pretty hard tho roflmao
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I Supported Toymods
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Perth
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May 2004
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Re: Playin GT4
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Thu, 07 April 2005 04:11
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what settings do u use mostly? I always find that my cars bog down at exit of corner...like dont spin out but just lose speed....bit of NOS always helps though 
espectially the ae86 and sil80 like mid corner is mad but at exit its crap
Adam
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Melbourne
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June 2004
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Re: Playin GT4
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Thu, 07 April 2005 04:22
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| Bobski wrote on Thu, 07 April 2005 14:11 |
what settings do u use mostly? I always find that my cars bog down at exit of corner...like dont spin out but just lose speed....bit of NOS always helps though
espectially the ae86 and sil80 like mid corner is mad but at exit its crap
Adam
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I've been ripping up the GT4 world series in a 1031hp Mercedes CLK-GTR LeMans car lately - no bogging down out of corners in that, I can assure you!
I'll tell you when I've started driving slower cars again - My CLK-GTR setups are aimed solely at traction and rear-tyre preservation!
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I Supported Toymods
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Perth
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May 2004
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Re: Playin GT4
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Thu, 07 April 2005 04:29
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yeah the merc is good...the minolta toyota is much betta though...same with the 92 nissan....but the thing i cant get is drifting .....
maybe its cos i use the dualshock controller not wheel....but meh....
i want to hear how arch does it.....maybe im just doing something wrong
Adam
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Location:
Melbourne
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June 2004
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Re: Playin GT4
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Thu, 07 April 2005 04:35
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I don't have the luxury of the faster Sportscars, since I'm only at 20% completion, hence can't win teh fast stuff in the enduro's. I think I'll take a break from the insane-o-fast stuff and back-track to some of the one-make and one-country races. I quite enjoyed the Silver-arrow Mercedes races (to win the DTM merc). Maybe it was slight overkill to drive an AMG SL600 tweaked up to 900-odd h.p. . . . . 
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Adel. Hills
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September 2004
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Re: Playin GT4
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Thu, 07 April 2005 13:23
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hey i have it and i rekon its bloody excelent.
at first i though, oh no drift this is shit but if you sort of get what the game developers are trying to acheive with the way the car reacts to the controller inputs, its easy to slide IMO.
i have an MX5 supercharged which is so fun for drift, and an 86 Levin of course, and a Sileighty and they can all be drifted fairly well.
it is just a game though, and when you think about it, who gives a shit how 'real' it is?
it is designed to provide some entertainment for when you CBFd driving your real car, or you wanna see what it MIGHT be like to punt a 34 Vspec around the ring at 250 k's. so in that respect, it serves its purpose bloody well and has provided me with hours of fun while my car has been off the road.
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Sydney
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April 2004
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Re: Playin GT4
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Thu, 07 April 2005 22:50
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just turned out a 45.777 on tsukuba
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Location:
Melbourne
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June 2004
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Re: Playin GT4
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Thu, 07 April 2005 22:55
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| driftymcgee wrote on Fri, 08 April 2005 08:50 |
just turned out a 45.777 on tsukuba
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What car? I had to work My ASS OFF to get down to 45.815 in teh Merc CLK-GTR. I was seriously looking for fractions of a second at a handful of corners to get down to that!
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Location:
Campbelltown, NSW, Austra...
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January 2004
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Re: Playin GT4
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Thu, 07 April 2005 23:31
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I got the F1 car now, its bright orange and not nearly as good as the one from gt3. My fav car is still the 350z LM concept.
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Sydney
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April 2004
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Re: Playin GT4
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Tue, 12 April 2005 05:19
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| st184 sillycar wrote on Fri, 08 April 2005 08:55 |
| driftymcgee wrote on Fri, 08 April 2005 08:50 |
just turned out a 45.777 on tsukuba
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What car? I had to work My ASS OFF to get down to 45.815 in teh Merc CLK-GTR. I was seriously looking for fractions of a second at a handful of corners to get down to that!
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Using the Nissan Z Concept LM
best time i know of is a 44.5ish in the Z Concept
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Location:
Sydney
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March 2003
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Re: Playin GT4
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Tue, 12 April 2005 05:31
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fark, i can only manage a 48 around Skuba in a the concept GTR.
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Location:
Brisbane
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October 2002
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Re: Playin GT4
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Tue, 12 April 2005 06:57
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| Camry_omega wrote on Fri, 08 April 2005 09:31 |
I got the F1 car now, its bright orange and not nearly as good as the one from gt3. My fav car is still the 350z LM concept.
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huh, mines black
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Location:
West Hobart
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December 2004
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Re: Playin GT4
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Tue, 12 April 2005 07:20
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I was pleased to see they have an ST185 in there. And it backfires regularly, just like in real life
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Carlingford, Sydney
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May 2002
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Re: Playin GT4
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Tue, 12 April 2005 13:41
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| Mr DOHC wrote on Tue, 12 April 2005 16:57 |
| Camry_omega wrote on Fri, 08 April 2005 09:31 |
I got the F1 car now, its bright orange and not nearly as good as the one from gt3. My fav car is still the 350z LM concept.
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huh, mines black
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mines blue so go figure
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Brisbane
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July 2002
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Location:
Sydney
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April 2004
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Re: Playin GT4
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Tue, 12 April 2005 23:45
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| Jag7799 wrote on Wed, 13 April 2005 08:15 |
| Camry_omega wrote on Fri, 08 April 2005 09:31 |
I got the F1 car now, its bright orange and not nearly as good as the one from gt3. My fav car is still the 350z LM concept.
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is that the stupid POS that only has power between 7 and 9k rpm?
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i think your talking about the Option Z Stream 350Z, its a top speed car so it doesnt need the power down low
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Carlingford, Sydney
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May 2002
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Re: Playin GT4
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Wed, 13 April 2005 01:04
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no its the stupid pos that makes power between 10000-18500rpm 
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Melbourne
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June 2004
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Re: Playin GT4
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Wed, 13 April 2005 04:48
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| EMP-2TG wrote on Wed, 13 April 2005 11:04 |
no its the stupid pos that makes power between 10000-18500rpm
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NOICE !
So it's modelled on current F1 then? 
JUST unlocked enduro series today, so I go F1 hunting tomorrow I guess . .
oh - and DANG that 350Z-LM concept is quick! Did you modify it to lap tsukuba that quick?
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Sydney
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February 2005
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Re: Playin GT4
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Wed, 13 April 2005 05:09
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I hate the understeer, its fkn bs. No car understeers every time you punch it. Can sum 1 recommend a car for um...in the professional races...the second 1 from the bottom. Coz they all use friggen tommy keira beasts n shit, they always flog me.
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Melbourne
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June 2004
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Re: Playin GT4
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Wed, 13 April 2005 05:23
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| unforgiven wrote on Wed, 13 April 2005 15:09 |
I hate the understeer, its fkn bs. No car understeers every time you punch it. Can sum 1 recommend a car for um...in the professional races...the second 1 from the bottom. Coz they all use friggen tommy keira beasts n shit, they always flog me.
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Yeah - I had trouble widt that series too - can't remember what I did it with either - I'll look through the log tomorrow and see what I did it with.
As for the understeer: Yes, some cars DO understeer every time you get on the throttle!!!! turn off all the driving aidzz for starters. They suck teh massiff kock widt teh devaschtating venereal disease. Buy some semi-pro or full-race suspension and learn about setting a car up. Also note that some powerful RWD's need soft front tyres and medium rears to work properly - this starts happening around 500hp +
I can give you more specific tips later if you need - right now I'm off to bed!
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Brisbane
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July 2002
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Re: Playin GT4
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Wed, 13 April 2005 09:52
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| driftymcgee wrote on Wed, 13 April 2005 09:45 |
| Jag7799 wrote on Wed, 13 April 2005 08:15 |
| Camry_omega wrote on Fri, 08 April 2005 09:31 |
I got the F1 car now, its bright orange and not nearly as good as the one from gt3. My fav car is still the 350z LM concept.
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is that the stupid POS that only has power between 7 and 9k rpm?
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i think your talking about the Option Z Stream 350Z, its a top speed car so it doesnt need the power down low
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still annoying to drive
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Location:
Adelaide
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January 2004
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Re: Playin GT4
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Wed, 13 April 2005 11:14
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| Bobski wrote on Thu, 07 April 2005 13:59 |
but the thing i cant get is drifting .....maybe its cos i use the dualshock controller not wheel....but meh....
i want to hear how arch does it.....maybe im just doing something wrong
Adam
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I use the regular dual shock controller too. Manual. Ill share some of my settings, what i can remember off the top of my head.
Car is trueno shuichi shigeno version, tuned to 243ps NA, or 315ps turbo (i use the set A, set B, set C tabs  )
I like to drift the NA setup, sure the turbo has more power and torque, but i run weaker tyres on teh NA version, letting me slide the car with the littlest of input. Top level suspension is a must if you want to have decent spring rates, basically i run very hard spring rates about 12-13 front and 9-10kg/mm rear, hard shock levels etc. swaybar on front standard (4?) swaybar on rear set to 7 i think. I run N3 front and N2 rear. I find that running weaker on the rear makes the car more prone to oversteer on deccelerationg, whereas equal rubber can sometimes make teh car understeer.
I also get the full customisable diff, this is essential as changing the lsd initial makes a big difference to how you start a slide. i run high initial (cant remember figure, maybe 50?) and high accel and decel (60 or 65 each, cant remember but they are equal).
With this setup i can slide 5th gear down the straight(its close ratio) but 3rd and 4th gears are fantastic to use in the corners. The car will oversteer from just turning in and lifting off teh accelerator, then just get back on teh gas and it will hold the corner. About the bogging down at teh end of the corner could be because you dont have enough entry speed? My 86 weighs no more than 800kg, so its not hard to keep the momentum going, and it will easily link into the next corner.
My favorite drift track is deep forest in reverse, linking the downhill section is fun 
i dont have a capture card, else i would make some vids... can i save a replay onto the memory stick like a picture?
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I Supported Toymods
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Perth
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May 2004
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Location:
Melbourne
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June 2004
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Re: Playin GT4
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Thu, 14 April 2005 03:42
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Active Stability Management is for poofters and communists.
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I Supported Toymods
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Re: Playin GT4
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Thu, 14 April 2005 03:58
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hey hey hey HEY! i used to be a comunist but im ok now...the glorious light of that great country America has showed me that "communism is bad mmmm-kay"  but seriously...try it...set asm (understeer) to 10....other one to 0 and tcs to 0....then enter a corner pretty hot....it gets interesting very very quickly
Adam
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Melbourne
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June 2004
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Re: Playin GT4
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Thu, 14 April 2005 04:00
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Active Stability Management is for poofters and communists.
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I Supported Toymods
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Perth
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May 2004
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Re: Playin GT4
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Thu, 14 April 2005 04:05
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now now...ur not playing very nice....didnt ur mother teach u anything 
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Location:
Melbourne
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June 2004
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Re: Playin GT4
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Thu, 14 April 2005 04:39
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Double post 
whoops! - I stand by it all the same
I don't run any driver aids except for traction control on my 1031hp Merc CLK-GTR LeMans car - to keep the rear tyres alive. I think I'll run T.C. free next time and see what happpens, coz I think that trac.ctrl just encourages me to lean harder on the rear-end, coz I know the computer will gather it up for me.
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Campbelltown
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November 2003
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Re: Playin GT4
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Thu, 14 April 2005 04:41
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tc is for pussy that can't modulate throttle.
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Adelaide
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January 2004
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Re: Playin GT4
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Thu, 14 April 2005 13:43
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| Corona RT142 wrote on Thu, 14 April 2005 14:11 |
tc is for pussy that can't modulate throttle.
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correct
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Sydney
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February 2005
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Re: Playin GT4
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Thu, 14 April 2005 14:04
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The only beef i got with drifting, is when it gets too much angle so you back of a tad and the thing over corrects on you and you find yourself looking the other way.
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Melbourne
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June 2004
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Re: Playin GT4
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Thu, 14 April 2005 22:58
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Is this the same as your blue one, EMP_2tg ?
I doubted it's validity - but I gotta admit B-Spec is handy for the powerful overlord that is a 24-Hour race.
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Carlingford, Sydney
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May 2002
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Re: Playin GT4
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Fri, 15 April 2005 03:35
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thats the gimp
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Sydney
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February 2005
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Re: Playin GT4
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Fri, 15 April 2005 04:00
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Fucking hell, i finished all of the beginner and pro races...but it still won't let me do the last race in professional WTF!!! I have finished everything! It just said you must complete all races in beginner and professional...GRR I HAVE!!
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Location:
townsville NQLD
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February 2004
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Re: Playin GT4
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Fri, 15 April 2005 11:23
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i "tried" the drifting thing. i got a AE86 put on hard suspension etc. etc.
i found the HIGH SPEED RING goes well with the sliding thing....it has good camber to just hang it all the way around the corners...even 6th gear.
i spin out a fair few times
for the drifters: have a go on high speed ring and see what u reckon
brett
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Adelaide
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January 2004
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Re: Playin GT4
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Fri, 15 April 2005 21:27
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| unforgiven wrote on Thu, 14 April 2005 23:34 |
The only beef i got with drifting, is when it gets too much angle so you back of a tad and the thing over corrects on you and you find yourself looking the other way.
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Your lifting off too much, too quick.
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Newcastle
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June 2002
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Re: Playin GT4
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Fri, 15 April 2005 22:31
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| unforgiven wrote on Fri, 15 April 2005 14:00 |
Fucking hell, i finished all of the beginner and pro races...but it still won't let me do the last race in professional WTF!!! I have finished everything! It just said you must complete all races in beginner and professional...GRR I HAVE!!
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You have to do them all in championship mode buddy, i think. Im atthe same point I just need to complete the championship for the pro race 'classic cars'
DAMN that AC car SC 427 thing
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Melbourne
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June 2004
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Re: Playin GT4
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Fri, 15 April 2005 23:49
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| old_mr2 wrote on Sat, 16 April 2005 08:31 |
| unforgiven wrote on Fri, 15 April 2005 14:00 |
Fucking hell, i finished all of the beginner and pro races...but it still won't let me do the last race in professional WTF!!! I have finished everything! It just said you must complete all races in beginner and professional...GRR I HAVE!!
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You have to do them all in championship mode buddy, i think. Im atthe same point I just need to complete the championship for the pro race 'classic cars'
DAMN that AC car SC 427 thing
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It didn't appear in the full-championship when I did it: so I whooped the hell out of the field in my fully tweaked Ginetta G4, which I had built up to try and compete with the AC cobra 427.
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Melbourne
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June 2004
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Re: Playin GT4
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Sat, 23 April 2005 05:16
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Is anyone else trying to log quick Nurburgring times? I'm sick to death of getting flung backwards off he track when I hit a series of big bumps wrong.
-F1 and CLK-GTR are my prefered uber-weapons, btw. (and yes, I have ride height maxxed out)
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