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its all over boys and girls
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Wed, 13 April 2005 05:43
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its all over!!!!!
toyota has annonced there will never be a car called a celica or MR2 ever again made after this year.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!
they may bring out a hybrid of the two thought next year if were lucky.
i think they will have to because if they dont only the limited edition exports to the united states will be there sports cars like the soarer.
making toyota look like a granny car company with only rav4s corollas and camrys.
so show your support and write to toyota to make this hybid car  lol.
cheers
matt
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On Probation
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Re: its all over boys and girls
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Wed, 13 April 2005 05:49
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they already make a hybrid car man. its called a prius. your dreams have come true and you didnt even haf to write a letter for it
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Re: its all over boys and girls
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Wed, 13 April 2005 06:12
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| studman wrote on Wed, 13 April 2005 15:49 |
they already make a hybrid car man. its called a prius. your dreams have come true and you didnt even haf to write a letter for it
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he doesnt mean a hybrid as in hybrid fuel car
he means hybrid as in a hybrid of the MR2 and celica
like a mix of the two
At least that's my interpretation.
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Re: its all over boys and girls
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Wed, 13 April 2005 06:27
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yes thats what i mean a hybrid of the two cars lol
i dont think the prius is a performer like the celica or mr2 lol 
cheers
matt
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Re: its all over boys and girls
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Wed, 13 April 2005 06:30
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Although TRD did set a land-speed and power record for their worked Prius....but we want petrol power not sun power.
They are run by a bunch of accountants and not car enthusiasts so they dont understand that die-hard toyota fans want performance,class and comfort all in one.All they see is that dollars can be made in selling family cars in Australia.
How crap
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Re: its all over boys and girls
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Wed, 13 April 2005 06:31
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| Merudo wrote on Wed, 13 April 2005 16:12 |
| studman wrote on Wed, 13 April 2005 15:49 |
they already make a hybrid car man. its called a prius. your dreams have come true and you didnt even haf to write a letter for it
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he doesnt mean a hybrid as in hybrid fuel car
he means hybrid as in a hybrid of the MR2 and celica
like a mix of the two
At least that's my interpretation.
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would that mean a Front engine RWD car???
orr a mid engine FWD 
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Re: its all over boys and girls
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Wed, 13 April 2005 06:31
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who cares, its not like anyk of us here can afford those new toyotas anyway, and if you can odds are yoru gonna get a jza80
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Re: its all over boys and girls
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Wed, 13 April 2005 06:37
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| rob-ae86 wrote on Wed, 13 April 2005 16:31 |
orr a mid engine FWD
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Re: its all over boys and girls
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Wed, 13 April 2005 06:43
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it could be a front mount rear wheel supercharged small based car sounds the closest of the two combined.
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Re: its all over boys and girls
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Wed, 13 April 2005 06:46
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i found it in top gear magazine its a english tv show and magazine its really good for finding stuff out.
the presenter is one of the best drivers alive.
one of his cars in his garage is an ex la mans porsche group 3.
lol
but i was flicking through and found the info from the january or december edition.
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Re: its all over boys and girls
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Wed, 13 April 2005 06:57
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I wouldn't rate Jeremy Clarkson (if he's still the presenter) as one of the best drivers alive, as whenever they need to do a track speed test, they get a 'professional' driver to do it. But he is a pretty tops driver and indeed very funny. Best job in the world imho.
Don't think a new hybrid would be supercharged though as they haven't been for 15 odd years. Nice idea though 
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Re: its all over boys and girls
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Wed, 13 April 2005 06:59
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meh I lost faith in toyota's ability to produce anything decent ages ago,look at what we have to choose from at the moment,camry and corolla sportivo!!  give me a fukkn break  when im 50 and sensible ill buy another toyota,untill then im left to milk asmuch power out of my ta22 as possible
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Re: its all over boys and girls
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Wed, 13 April 2005 07:00
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This is about the 4th time someone has popped up and "annouced" this information.
This is only relevant for the USA. Hence why Davedave cannot find this press release on the toyota japan website 
Try toyota USA and it will be there.
Now please kids, dont scare the other kids.
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Wed, 13 April 2005 07:25
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| StuC wrote on Wed, 13 April 2005 16:30 |
Although TRD did set a land-speed and power record for their worked Prius....but we want petrol power not sun power.
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i want an electric car with a 200kw electric motor at each corner 
as long as the batteries last long enough for a few runs, who cares ... mmm 800kw
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Wed, 13 April 2005 10:10
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yep that would be the ultimate oldcorollas.
I so badly want to get a hold of a big phyco powerful japanese electrical motor and a big bank of fuel cells and mount them babies in a ae86 or some light car, mated to the gearbox or something simular. may not even need a gearbox!
the acceleration would be so sweet and smooth and disturbingly quite.
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Re: its all over boys and girls
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Wed, 13 April 2005 10:54
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| THE WITZL wrote on Wed, 13 April 2005 17:00 |
This is about the 4th time someone has popped up and "annouced" this information.
This is only relevant for the USA. Hence why Davedave cannot find this press release on the toyota japan website
Try toyota USA and it will be there.
Now please kids, dont scare the other kids.
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Phew..... I was worried that Toyota had decided to can the Celica (and mr2 ) in Japan too.
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Re: its all over boys and girls
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Wed, 13 April 2005 11:05
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MR2 Celica hybrid...
whats the target market.. "Hairdressers in a Hurry" ?
LOL, no i only know how to react to bad news with comedy.. Toyota aswell as other companies have totally lost the plot. As the current people in power sux0r... but nevermind in a decade or two the generation who loved the cars we love will be in power and we'll see a revival!
The return of the celica, mr2, trueno/levin (proper), skyline, rx7, silvia, supra... the list goes on.
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Wed, 13 April 2005 11:13
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for the most part, performance cars dont sell a great deal in comparison to 'normal' cars, so dont make near as much money. it also doesnt help that the head of toyota has no interest in motorsport.
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Re: its all over boys and girls
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Wed, 13 April 2005 11:27
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blah to toyota new cars
if i was gonna buya mid priced new car
id get a used evo over a jza80 any day
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Re: its all over boys and girls
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Wed, 13 April 2005 11:32
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| customSA63 wrote on Wed, 13 April 2005 16:27 |
yes thats what i mean a hybrid of the two cars lol
i dont think the prius is a performer like the celica or mr2 lol
cheers
matt
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Dunno about this one.
Ok yes its not in the same league, but the one I saw on Monday night on North Rocks Rd was absolutely hammering. He would've been using both electic & petrol motors all the time.
I couldn't keep up from the lights (no great surprise there though ), but he also wasted a Mazda 3 who was trying.
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Wed, 13 April 2005 22:42
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| Intensevil wrote on Wed, 13 April 2005 16:31 |
who cares, its not like anyk of us here can afford those new toyotas anyway, and if you can odds are yoru gonna get a jza80
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if i could fetch myself a JZA80 in 10 years time, i will
unless my taste in cars radically changes in that time
ahh screw it ill just get a crown
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Re: its all over boys and girls
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Wed, 13 April 2005 22:46
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the last mr2 sucks balls anyway, and the celica was really no match for the type R integra.
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Re: its all over boys and girls
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Thu, 14 April 2005 01:41
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| bathurst-91 wrote on Wed, 13 April 2005 21:05 |
whats the target market.. "Hairdressers in a Hurry" ?
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but yeah, i think ill just keep with the older sports cars for the moment
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Re: its all over boys and girls
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Thu, 14 April 2005 11:16
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Hi,
It was "over" after 1977. The shape changed, the style waned and the accountants took over. It hasn't been the same since and it never will.
On the rare occasion a glimmer of hope was produced, only to go wayward on the subsequent evolution of the design.
Treasure your classics, for they'll never return.
seeyuzz
river
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Re: its all over boys and girls
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Thu, 14 April 2005 11:30
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Sorry River, as much as I like my classics, I'm a sucker for technology and they just don't deliver. Sure they look nice, but some of the wedgy 80's designs appeal to me, as do *some* JZA80 models.
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Re: its all over boys and girls
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Thu, 14 April 2005 11:33
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i would call it a MR Celica
or Em-ar-lica
or Celicar
or Merlica
or Celica 2
or MR Cel!
oh the possibilities!
-Gaz
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Thu, 14 April 2005 11:56
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| wagonist wrote on Wed, 13 April 2005 21:32 |
| customSA63 wrote on Wed, 13 April 2005 16:27 |
yes thats what i mean a hybrid of the two cars lol
i dont think the prius is a performer like the celica or mr2 lol
cheers
matt
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Dunno about this one.
Ok yes its not in the same league, but the one I saw on Monday night on North Rocks Rd was absolutely hammering. He would've been using both electic & petrol motors all the time.
I couldn't keep up from the lights (no great surprise there though ), but he also wasted a Mazda 3 who was trying.
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Dunno if that 3 was trying too hard, the Prius's aren't too bad but they'll only keep up with your standard echo type car but CVT mnn heheh.. should run it at 250rpm to all the time and use the electric for power rather then the petrol  Oh well
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Re: its all over boys and girls
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Fri, 15 April 2005 08:38
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| charliechalk wrote on Thu, 14 April 2005 21:56 |
| wagonist wrote on Wed, 13 April 2005 21:32 |
| customSA63 wrote on Wed, 13 April 2005 16:27 |
yes thats what i mean a hybrid of the two cars lol
i dont think the prius is a performer like the celica or mr2 lol
cheers
matt
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Dunno about this one.
Ok yes its not in the same league, but the one I saw on Monday night on North Rocks Rd was absolutely hammering. He would've been using both electic & petrol motors all the time.
I couldn't keep up from the lights (no great surprise there though ), but he also wasted a Mazda 3 who was trying.
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Dunno if that 3 was trying too hard, the Prius's aren't too bad but they'll only keep up with your standard echo type car but CVT mnn heheh.. should run it at 250rpm to all the time and use the electric for power rather then the petrol Oh well
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Thats the main thing going in the Prius's favour. It has the same torque as your average 6 cyl diesel due to the Electric motor. I think hybrid technology is definitely the way to go...if they (toyota) were to see this and match a small efficient turbo powerplant like the 770cc turbo out of a Smart roadster combined with the torque from an electric motor, you would have one damn quick (and efficient) car.
imagine the stats...
130kw @ 5000
350nm from 1000 upward in a tabletop flat torque curve
1200kg GVM in a 4 seater sporty hot hatch...
mmmmmm.....sacrilicious
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Re: its all over boys and girls
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Fri, 15 April 2005 08:50
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should run it at 250rpm to all the time and use the electric for power rather then the petrol Oh well
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unfortunately that would not work at all, electric motors are not powerful (as in producing high HP or KW) infact the Prius electric motor only adds about 10kw to the mix when used in conjunction with the petrol. What they are terrific for is having amazing torque levels in rev ranges where a petrol motor would be labouring or would not be able to function at all.
So you match a peaky petrol engine with a torquey electric motor and you have a winner.
The design for the prius however was on efficiency as the ultimate goal, to show the wider market what hybrid technology is capable of. Once that has been introduced and other motor companies want a piece of that niche (which will become a segment if petrol prices keep going the way they are ) the next evolutionary step will be performance. Fuel cells will become more efficient, lighter ETC. Research may even spread into which method of charging the petrol engine will deliver the big figures....
We are standing at the beginning of what economists have forecast for many years. The turning point of where the cost differential between fossil fuels and developing alternative energies becomes smaller, and the very survival of major companies will rely on their ability to adapt to this change.
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Re: its all over boys and girls
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Fri, 15 April 2005 09:00
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the irony being companies will always leave this sort of thing until the last minute, meaning the situation is already dire by the time this great technology comes out.
If hybrid car technology such as that implemented in the prius was embraced wholly even five years ago... Think of the petrol that would be saved!
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I supported Toymods
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Re: its all over boys and girls
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Fri, 15 April 2005 09:32
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Meh, I've said it before and I'll say it again. Take the BMW approach. Burn hydrogen in an internal combustion engine just like now, don't miss out on the advantages and tweaks afforded by over 100 years of development and not rob them of a soul as well. Produce a safe storage mechanism for home and strap a solar panel to your roof to remove hydrogen from plain old tap water.
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