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Removing MS123 Hubs
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Tue, 12 April 2005 09:11
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Hi Guys,
I just went to my local wreckers, and miraculously found a Toyota Crown MS123, with rear hubs attached!!!!
What is the easiest way to remove these babies?
Can i take off the supports on either end and take the whole unit out?
Also, what is the going rate i should offer the wrecker for them?
I do have to remove them, so they arn't off the shelf, which i guess makes it cheaper.
Any help appreciated!!!
VPR
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Membership Secretary
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Sydney
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June 2002
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Re: Removing MS123 Hubs
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Tue, 12 April 2005 09:16
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Front hubs I would tell you, as for rear hubs never played with a crown with IRS
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I supported Toymods
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Australia
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November 2003
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Re: Removing MS123 Hubs
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Tue, 12 April 2005 09:17
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AFAIK they have to be pressed out.
And pressed onto the MA61 whatevers.
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Lost in the K hole
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May 2002
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Re: Removing MS123 Hubs
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Tue, 12 April 2005 10:02
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undo cvs and 1/2 shafts from insade face of hub, slide them off hub spline.
reattach large nut to hub shaft/spline, place socket over nut, whack with big heavy sledge hammer
*plonk*
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I supported Toymods
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Australia
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November 2003
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Re: Removing MS123 Hubs
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Tue, 12 April 2005 10:37
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Then what am I thinking about that has to be pressed?
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Brisbane
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May 2002
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Re: Removing MS123 Hubs
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Tue, 12 April 2005 12:09
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When I found my hubs at the wreckers I grabbed the whole trailing arm assembly with hubs attached... much easier than trying to dick around with 30mm sockets and sledge hammers in a wrecking yard.
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Adelaide
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May 2003
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Re: Removing MS123 Hubs
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Tue, 12 April 2005 12:22
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Heh, i saw some guys doing a similar thing to another wreck in the yard, except they had it on the side and were using an angle grinder. 
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Adelaide
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September 2003
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Re: Removing MS123 Hubs
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Tue, 12 April 2005 22:09
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| ed_ma61 wrote on Tue, 12 April 2005 19:32 |
undo cvs and 1/2 shafts from insade face of hub, slide them off hub spline.
reattach large nut to hub shaft/spline, place socket over nut, whack with big heavy sledge hammer
*plonk*
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What he said, but sometimes it is more like whack, whack, whack, whack, whack, whack, whack, whack, whack, whack, mumble, fudge, shit, whack, whack, whack, whack, whack, whack, whack, whack, whack, whack, poo fark bugger & bum, whack, whack, whack, whack, whack, whack, whack, whack, whack, whack, whack, whack, jesus farkin H christ, whack, whack, whack, whack, whack, whack, whack, whack, *plonk*
I have dione it both ways, and depending on the price grab the IRS arms out of the car. (I have got it down to 35 mins to get the arms out of the car and the hubs separated - a bit of practice  )
Price can vary from $75 per side to $200 per side
Cheers
Michael B
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Hawthorn, Vic
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March 2005
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Re: Removing MS123 Hubs
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Sun, 17 April 2005 13:13
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right...
i attempted to rip apart the rear end... after 3 1.2 hrs.. i failed
i got a nasty gash in my hand for the trouble too.
i mananaged to remove the brakes, disk, and rear axel thingy no problem, all came off with a 14mm spanner and some wd40.
even removing the single 27mm locking bolt on the back was easy, although, i was expecting 30mm (Norby ), but no matter.
that shaft is a bitch to remove. we tried a few different methods, all fails.
-Puller/Pusher, no go, bitch kept slipping off
-Hammer & Wood. no go, not enough room to swing under a car
-Attaching brake disk, and jaming bolts hiding it to try and pull the unit out. no go, just started to bend the brake mountings.
We that, we dicided to give up. After consulting with a freind, we dicovered he had a hydrolic pusher, with extenders.
Perfect!!!
Ill drop the diff, and push both the bastards out using it.
Its rated to 10 tonne, so it should do.
Damn this shit is triky 
[Updated on: Sun, 17 April 2005 14:06]
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Re: Removing MS123 Hubs
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Sun, 17 April 2005 15:10
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| Viper_III wrote on Sun, 17 April 2005 09:13 |
right...
i attempted to rip apart the rear end... after 3 1.2 hrs.. i failed
i got a nasty gash in my hand for the trouble too.
i mananaged to remove the brakes, disk, and rear axel thingy no problem, all came off with a 14mm spanner and some wd40.
even removing the single 27mm locking bolt on the back was easy, although, i was expecting 30mm (Norby ), but no matter.
that shaft is a bitch to remove. we tried a few different methods, all fails.
-Puller/Pusher, no go, bitch kept slipping off
-Hammer & Wood. no go, not enough room to swing under a car
-Attaching brake disk, and jaming bolts hiding it to try and pull the unit out. no go, just started to bend the brake mountings.
We that, we dicided to give up. After consulting with a freind, we dicovered he had a hydrolic pusher, with extenders.
Perfect!!!
Ill drop the diff, and push both the bastards out using it.
Its rated to 10 tonne, so it should do.
Damn this shit is triky
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Just use a large, spike and a really heavy hammer. There should be enough room with the diff in place to hammer it out. I've done it this way before and so have others. It works alaways seem to work.
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Adelaide
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September 2003
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Re: Removing MS123 Hubs
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Sun, 17 April 2005 22:06
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| bbaacchhyy wrote on Wed, 13 April 2005 07:39 |
I have dione it both ways, and depending on the price grab the IRS arms out of the car. (I have got it down to 35 mins to get the arms out of the car and the hubs separated - a bit of practice )
Cheers
Michael B
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Removing the arms is much easier (as mentioned).
Only another 4 bolts per side (2 ea for the trailing arm, 1 for the shock, and 1 for the handbrake cable) 
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Hawthorn, Vic
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March 2005
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Re: Removing MS123 Hubs
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Mon, 18 April 2005 02:57
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yeah.
i couldnt be stuffed removing the whole arms
i attemtped to, and thats what distroyed my hand 
plus the guys didnt want to get off their fat arses adn tell me exactly how much it was going to cost, so fuk that. they can keep the arm that no-one will buy.
ill just go in with the hydrolic extender, and as backup, a long crowbar and hammer.
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Re: Removing MS123 Hubs
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Mon, 18 April 2005 03:00
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| CrUZsida wrote on Tue, 12 April 2005 20:37 |
Then what am I thinking about that has to be pressed?
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putting the new ones back in
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