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Re: VK Commodore
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Mon, 18 April 2005 06:24
 
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no offense dude but for your first post this might be a little sensitive, you might get some help, but i'm tipping a lot of flamish about your first post being on a topic of commodores. Its a toyota forum, so realistically if you want better or more info, try street commodores or the likes, they may be better able to answer your questions.
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Re: VK Commodore
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Mon, 18 April 2005 06:53
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Sell shitbox 6 cylinder VK and buy V8 Commodore.
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Profit.
You have asked this question 15 times on Performance Forums. Stop asking the same shit. The answer is the same.
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Re: VK Commodore
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Mon, 18 April 2005 07:29
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What's stage 2?
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Re: VK Commodore
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Mon, 18 April 2005 07:56
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Dream on.
Which part of your post actually refers to anything toyota specific?
Like all conversions, double your budget and halve your "RWKW" figure..
Think about the cost of suspension, brakes, tyres, reconditioning or replacement of 20year old parts, including rubbers and points of fricton (moving parts).
If you have to ask such general questions you havent done your home work.. The conversion should be entirely your idea for the finished project ie. what you want to do with it.
Also factor EFI mods, gearbox to suit, new tailshaft, diff, engine mounts, exhuast etc..
Dont forget your MONSTER TACHO...
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Re: VK Commodore
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Mon, 18 April 2005 09:20
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use a toyota lexen motor, they are great.
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Re: VK Commodore
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Mon, 18 April 2005 09:31
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welcome new poster
not to scare you off asking questions on the internet, but there is usually a place for everything. this board is predominantly about toyotas, most of the members here probably don't know a thing about your VK, and we'll just tell you to put a toyota motor in it 
i suspect you would find a much better range of answers, filled with experience of people who have been in the same/similar situation as you, as well as a vast range of technical know-how about your specific car on a forum dedicated to commodores, as opposed to one dedicated to celicas, corollas, coronas, supras, camrys, etc
here's a couple of likely ones i found by typing "holden commodore club" into google. good luck!
http://groups.msn.com/commodoreclub/commodoresstat s.msnw
http://forums.commodorecarclubwa.com/
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Re: VK Commodore
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Mon, 18 April 2005 13:08
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4EFTE coversion with a T88 Turbo will be the goods.... 
Better yet, your steps to success..
Step 1) Buy a 200KW engine
Step 2) Install
Step 3) Enjoy!
Step 4 - 400) Fix the parts of the VK that can't handle teh powaz.
Or a more serious note,
Sell the VK
Purchase a VL
Then go to this site and follow instructions on converting a RB30DE into a RB30DET
http://home.iprimus.com.au/chris_white82/
That guy spend $1500. (add $2000 on top of that and it won't explode) and it will probably put out 200KW (at the fly)
-Adam.
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Re: VK Commodore
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Mon, 18 April 2005 13:17
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I'll be nice 
If you want my truly honest opinion, ditch the car - but that's what I'd do. If you like the car, well that's your thing, and it's not hard to improve a Commodore. Personally, I'd never consider any of the Holden options, and would rather stick a Toyota engine in there (1UZ, 1/2JZ.) Second to that is the easiest option, being to stick in a Nissan engine - VL crossmember etc. and you can bolt in RB20/25 (no way I'd waste a 26 on a VK!) without TOO much difficulty. Fuel tank? EFI VK, and use a bigger pump. Transmission? Do you like manual or auto? Suspension? Talk to any reasonable suspension place - Commodores aren't exactly hard to find bits for. Bolt on some 17s so you can fit larger brakes. Easy fit is the hub-type SV5000 (about 330mm) rotors. Use common calipers - Nissan 4 potters are easy to come by. That should at least give you something to think about.
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Re: VK Commodore
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Mon, 18 April 2005 13:20
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Oh, and if your 202 is only starting to chug, then somethings amiss:
1. You're immune to chugging, as are most who drive these things
2. You've done bloody well to get it started in the first place
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Re: VK Commodore
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Mon, 18 April 2005 15:52
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Mate has a 3.8lt v6 from a vs ute in his vk. Doesn't look half bad either
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Re: VK Commodore
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Tue, 19 April 2005 12:54
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Ignore those wallys, especially MrShin.
If you want a good 6, stick with the 202. Top performance motor, with great potential. The natural flow capabilities of the 12 port head blow me away. Sorry, bad joke. But seriously, the bottom end will rev forever, especially with starfire rods (ooooh another great motor!), and with triple strombergs you can run it rich as too! My mate spent 2 grand on his 202 and got 97kw at the treads. Dead serious! I can find the dyno graph to prove it.
Whatabout a box? The Aussie four speed is definitely an excellent choice. If you're lucky you can find one at a wrecker. They have a shift feel second to none, and with 4 gears you've always got power when cruising.
However, if you want to upset the Holden purists I know the perfect motor for you. Ford sold it up until the early 90's, it's the 250 crossflow. Apparently the air goes in one side of the head and out the other. I don't know why they bothered making the head that way, but it's made of alloy, and you can have an AlloyHead II badge. Alloy is lighter, so not as tough as cast iron, but they used it anyway. And then for the gearbox you'll need a toploader. Another great piece of engineering.
I'll stop there. Have fun!
edit: what city do you live in?
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Re: VK Commodore
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Tue, 19 April 2005 15:06
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| mrsmart wrote on Tue, 19 April 2005 22:54 |
Ignore those wallys, especially MrShin.
If you want a good 6, stick with the 202. Top performance motor, with great potential. The natural flow capabilities of the 12 port head blow me away. Sorry, bad joke. But seriously, the bottom end will rev forever, especially with starfire rods (ooooh another great motor!)
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And here i was thinking was that the fartfire was based on the 186.
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, and with triple strombergs you can run it rich as too! My mate spent 2 grand on his 202 and got 97kw at the treads. Dead serious! I can find the dyno graph to prove it.
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That all from a 202. what head did he use ?
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Whatabout a box? The Aussie four speed is definitely an excellent choice.
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Yep, ya not wrong till you make a gear change and the lever pops out and you're left with a lever in your hand and no gears 
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However, if you want to upset the Holden purists I know the perfect motor for you. Ford sold it up until the early 90's, it's the 250 crossflow.Apparently the air goes in one side of the head and out the other. I don't know why they bothered making the head that way, but it's made of alloy, and you can have an AlloyHead II badge. Alloy is lighter, so not as tough as cast iron, but they used it anyway. And then for the gearbox you'll need a toploader. Another great piece of engineering.
I'll stop there. Have fun!
edit: what city do you live in?
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Re: VK Commodore
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Tue, 19 April 2005 20:34
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i got 88rwkw out of my 202 on straight LPG. that was with a yella terra head, mild cam and free flow exhaust. and it cost me a FORTUNE to do it.
if you don't mind spending a small countries income for little return then sure - the 202 will be ideal for you.
otherwise you can do the following :
1. an RB30E or RB30ET will fit in your VK using a VL K frame. i think a custom gearbox crossmember may be required due to there being no bulge in the floor of the VK for the cat convertor like there was in the VL. this also opens up options for rb20s, rb25's and rb26s (rb26 needs mods to fit)
2. a V6 will also fit - using a k frame from a VN-VP - it will also bolt straight in no mods required - again - a custom gearbox crossmember would be required here.
3. an injected v8 will also go in there no issues - but again - extracting 200rwkw out of an injected v8 is not an easy (or cheap) kind of feat
200rwkw can be obtained by use of a newer kind of motor from either toyota OR nissan - and probably far cheaper too (and return some sort of decent fuel economy)
hope this helps.
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Re: VK Commodore
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Tue, 19 April 2005 22:48
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Ive had a naturaly asparated 202 that did low 14s in a torana.
202 red, 60tho over(208), 40,80 cam, cain manifold, 350 holley jetted up and bigger power valve, extractors into 2 1/2" exhaust, straight through lukey muffler, 3" muffler back and under the diff.
I still had the standard head, 3 speed manual(floor shift but), and a 3.36 diff.
If you use a yella terra bathurst 12 port head, celica 5 speed and 3.55 diff gears in a vk should do high 13s
vk only 200kg more than lx torana.
cheap and lots of stick.
or
i have a 304 black brock motor 4 sale pm me for details.
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