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Defected but not, Police prove their uselessness once again!
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Fri, 15 April 2005 03:48
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So i have gone to pick up lunch from kfc and on the drive home I have pulled out of kfc and driven about 30 metres and I was in 3rd already, got pulled over for originally a license check, then get asked why i was making so much noise(I didnt even hit boost nor go over 2k rpm). I said, I dont beleive I was, if so.. its just the car.
Mr policeman asks me to pop my bonnet and tries to defect me.. He 1st tries to defect me for an ATMO BOV which i dont have(factory plumb back) so that didnt work, next he looks over my engine bay and tries to defect me for Battery not totally secured down, Brake fluid(was on the low line) heater not working(which it does work). Old auto transmission wires which are held up in the back right of the engine bay incase I want to install an auto transmission wires and then finally a brace thats holding up the hood clip(which i replaced the old one with a newer stronger one so I could fit the intercooler, AND its engineered)
I showed the guy my mod plate which was onthe engine bay, he didnt care.
We then had an argument about the heater not working, I offerred him to get in the car and try it.. but he just said "i can see it doesent work"
He kept insisting that I had an atmo bov and external wastegates..
I showed him where it plumbed back, so then he argued I must have done more than change the exhaust from cat back and put an intercooler on...
So he sais he is going to write up the defect notice, sits over there for 5 minutes or more in which a million cars louder than mine go past, 1 got booked and then sped off making a crap load of noise.. and they didnt do anything even though he was basically wreckless right infront of their faces.
After all that time, he comes back and goes.. Your lucky, i cant find my defect book so here I have just written you up a fine for modified silencing device, 45 and 1 point.
I argued with him a bit about the fine and he said to me "if its any louder at all than it came out of mr toyota factory, we can defect you".
This is a load of shit
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Re: Defected but not, Police prove their uselessness once again!
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Fri, 15 April 2005 03:55
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Did you show him the engineers report?
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I supported Toymods
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Re: Defected but not, Police prove their uselessness once again!
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Fri, 15 April 2005 03:55
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Like I said dude, you haven't shown him that your exhaust has been checked to be legal.
So he was in his right to suspect that it wasn't.
Go get the exhaust checked, and if its legal, go contest the fine.
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Brisbane
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May 2002
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Melbourne
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May 2002
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Re: Defected but not, Police prove their uselessness once again!
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Fri, 15 April 2005 04:29
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you own a car that looks modifyed its your choice to attract those kind of police officers!
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I supported Toymods
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Re: Defected but not, Police prove their uselessness once again!
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Fri, 15 April 2005 04:31
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His car doesn't exactly look over the top though, theres no reason for a police officer to be such a prick, especially when you are one of the few who actually have done the right thing.
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I supported Toymods
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Re: Defected but not, Police prove their uselessness once again!
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Fri, 15 April 2005 04:50
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that's why at all times I will carry engineer's report, exhaust noise test, and the RTA document stating the legal noise limit
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Melbourne
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Fri, 15 April 2005 04:54
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thats how a cop sees that car, we live in times where performance car's are the devils transport  unfortunate but thats how it is
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Newcastle
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June 2004
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I Supported Toymods
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melbourne.vic.au
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May 2002
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Re: Defected but not, Police prove their uselessness once again!
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Fri, 15 April 2005 04:58
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Hey Allan,
That's great  Thanks for the insight of the "otherside of the fence"
Cheers.
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Brisbane
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July 2002
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Fri, 15 April 2005 05:23
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yeah.. but its not like i have a big drift king sticker down the side of my car
I cant find my engineers report.. shit.. but I am writing a letter to the cops head officer in order to try and get it abolished
Hopefully its going to work, its over a page and a half of writing haha
My car doesent look low either, cause the sides are sorta high, fair enough it has dark tint, wheels and an intercooler poking out
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I supported Toymods
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Fri, 15 April 2005 05:26
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Lets hope it doesn't sound anything like your last letter.
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Fri, 15 April 2005 05:36
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that last letter was full out abuse of their incompetence, where i hadnt been fined, this one is pointing out their wrong doing
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Brisbane
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February 2003
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Toymods Social Secretary
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Sydney
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July 2002
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Re: Defected but not, Police prove their uselessness once again!
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Fri, 15 April 2005 05:50
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PLEASE REMEMBER PEOPLE: The Police have the internet too.
Dont let this sort of carrying on be a reason for the police to direct attention to these forums and in particular the Toymods Car Club.
I would please request that all comments of such nature be removed and the tone of this thread be changed such that it is more of an informative discussion about the laws surrounding your particular circustances, rather than a "F**K DA POLICE" style thread.
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Re: Defected but not, Police prove their uselessness once again!
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Fri, 15 April 2005 05:55
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| THE WITZL wrote on Fri, 15 April 2005 15:50 |
PLEASE REMEMBER PEOPLE: The Police have the internet too.
Dont let this sort of carrying on be a reason for the police to direct attention to these forums and in particular the Toymods Car Club.
I would please request that all comments of such nature be removed and the tone of this thread be changed such that it is more of an informative discussion about the laws surrounding your particular circustances, rather than a "F**K DA POLICE" style thread.
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I dont beleive anything I have said is of a bashful nature, other than saying they are incompetent.. which is a fair accusation when you look at some of the stuff which is going on. Fair enough a lot of them are good cops and actually do their job in a reasonable manner. but a lot dont.
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Fri, 15 April 2005 07:12
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The letter
Written by me, and fixed up a lot in punctuation and sarcastic remarks etc by JCMF, Thanks 
To the Supervising Officer.
Earlier today I received a fine which I feel was inappropriate and I am writing you to question its validity. The fine in question was “Driving with modified silencing device that reduces the effectiveness” No. A 2197440 3 and was issued by Officer Herburg, Reg #10692 of the station BWDTB.
The incident in question happened as follows. I had just left the car park of the KFC store in Everton Park. I turned right onto Griffiths St and about 30m down the road as I was about to make a right hand turn the police stationed on the corner waved me in.
The officer in question asked to see my license and asked if the car was mine as per usual questioning. He then queried as to why the car was making so much noise. At this point he claimed he could hear my “blow-off valve”. I refuted this on two grounds, firstly that I hadn’t left the car park fast thus not bringing the car onto boost, and secondly as the car does not have a venting blow off valve, just the factory re-circulating air bypass valve.
He then motioned to the front of my car and asked me to open the bonnet which I did. Upon inspection of the engine he then proceeded to point out items on which he was going to defect my car. They are as follows:
- He claimed the car had a venting blow off valve, although as mentioned above, the factory issue air bypass valve is retained.
- He pointed out the fluid level in my clutch master cylinder and claimed it was too low although the level still read above the lower marker.
- He claimed the heater does not work. I offered for him to have a seat in my car to show him it indeed does. At this point, he told me he knew it was not working because he could see the disconnected lines in the engine bay. The lines in question are actually for the air conditioning system, which was never connected upon completing the conversion.
- He then pointed out wiring in the top right of my engine bay that was disconnected when the automatic transmission was removed for a manual. The wires in question are taped up and secured so they cannot move. These were retained in case I wanted to convert the car back to automatic.
- He pointed out the battery, which can move slightly in its clamp although it cannot actually come out. I explained to him that it has always been like this and once the bonnet is closed the battery cannot move at all.
- The last item he pointed out was a modified bracket, which is used to hold up the bottom of the three bonnet latch mounts. It was replaced with a stronger design when the intercooler was fitted as part of the conversion. Its inclusion was noted on the documentation for my modification plate.
The officer then proceeded to go back to his car to write up the defects listed above. This was after I had explained all the information about each one, as described above also. Shortly after he came back over and said he was unable to locate his defect booklet, and instead was going to issue me the fine in question.
Here is a bit of background on my car to help explain things a little better. It is a 1983 Toyota Soarer that has been retrofitted with the engine out of a later model Toyota Soarer. The conversion was completed by a workshop under the supervision of an engineer and once finished the engineer was responsible for writing out the engineering certificate and authorized the modification plate affixed to my car. The car was presented in its current form to the engineer when the report was written and everything mechanical has remained the same, including the exhaust for which I was fined. I have consulted with the modification guides on the QLD Transport website and my exhaust meets the requirements specified and as such this is why the engineer was satisfied when he wrote the report.
The modification plate was issued under the following information if you wish to look it up:
A/Officer 2227
Date 11-5-04
Code LAI
The purpose of me writing this letter is to attempt to have this fine revoked because it should not have been issued in the first place. I feel I am responsible in the fact that I completed the modifications to my car under the supervision of the law and to the requirements specified. Therefore, these are the grounds on which I think it should be revoked.
Your consideration on this matter is most appreciated.
Regards,
Johal Gow
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Fri, 15 April 2005 07:19
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Sounds good.
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Re: Defected but not, Police prove their uselessness once again!
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Fri, 15 April 2005 07:28
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sorry about this - slight offtopic..
but can you guys get defected for not having a working heater over in there in aussie ? 
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I supported Toymods
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Re: Defected but not, Police prove their uselessness once again!
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Fri, 15 April 2005 07:31
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| z|gen wrote on Fri, 15 April 2005 15:28 |
sorry about this - slight offtopic..
but can you guys get defected for not having a working heater over in there in aussie ?
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Yes, because you need them to do things like defrosting windows etc.
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Fri, 15 April 2005 08:15
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FYI ppls, its authoriSe, not authoriZe.
We live in Australia here.
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Fri, 15 April 2005 08:27
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| CrUZsida wrote on Fri, 15 April 2005 18:15 |
FYI ppls, its authoriSe, not authoriZe.
We live in Australia here.
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stupid american version of microsoft word
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Fri, 15 April 2005 08:39
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lol..
sorry, i find that very funny (heater part), iv never heard of that happening over in NZ, and i hope they dont bring it in.
best of luck with your letter
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Re: Defected but not, Police prove their uselessness once again!
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Fri, 15 April 2005 10:29
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when i was gettin the roadworthy certificate for my celica, i asked him about the noise (typical 18rg noise - loud as).
he said that before 1977 (and including i think) cars are like exempt from the noise restrictions (to an extent).
my car being a 79 model is "supposidly" supposed to have the origional exhaust system fitted.
i am a bit worried at the moment.
in townsville (QLD) they have given all the cops Db measuring devices  .
they are fining anyone that exceeds the noise specified by the factory.
they have a book with all the noise levels of all vehicles....it is fukin thick too.
they fine $75 and no demerit points as a standard breech....then if you exceed a certain amount, it is $X.xx for every amout over.
i have been past about 7 cop cars in the last 4 days and have been waitin for them to pull me up about the noise....when i see them i just sit on 1000 - 1500 rpm in every gear 
though in your case being engineered and all.....it means that the engineer recoagnises that the exhaust was modified to suit the engine.
sounds like the cop was having a bad day
brett
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Fri, 15 April 2005 10:38
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know what you need to do
call today tonight and aca and contest the fine based on it was nothing more than harrasment and he had to fien you to justify that it wasnt
call his station and report him for harrasment and intimidation
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Fri, 15 April 2005 11:14
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And become even more of a target, I wouldn't.
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Fri, 15 April 2005 15:16
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*whats that over there officer?*
*officer looks away*
FOOT IN CORNHOLE
Easy.
Eldar.O.
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I supported Toymods
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Re: Defected but not, Police prove their uselessness once again!
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Fri, 15 April 2005 15:29
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that sucks johal...what can I say...I dont really like them, I know its the principle of the matter, but honestly its $45 and one point, pay it and live with it, dont worry his time will come becuase one day some little punk at KFC or Hungry Jacks or Krispy Creme will spit in his coffee and add his own "filling" to his donut/burger becuase he gave him the shits one night too.
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Re: Defected but not, Police prove their uselessness once again!
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Fri, 15 April 2005 16:11
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| MR 1GGTE wrote on Sat, 16 April 2005 01:29 |
that sucks johal...what can I say...I dont really like them, I know its the principle of the matter, but honestly its $45 and one point, pay it and live with it, dont worry his time will come becuase one day some little punk at KFC or Hungry Jacks or Krispy Creme will spit in his coffee and add his own "filling" to his donut/burger becuase he gave him the shits one night too.
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bah
i know its the principal of the matter eyt bend over and take it liek a man is NOT the aussie way
fight it even if it costs you twice as much to the stage that they fuckers consider ever dong it again when every single person does it
remember people the only thign these c01nts know is statistics so give them oen they cant ignore
100% dissatisfaction in the current system
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Fri, 15 April 2005 23:38
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| 4DaDrift wrote on Sat, 16 April 2005 02:11 |
| MR 1GGTE wrote on Sat, 16 April 2005 01:29 |
that sucks johal...what can I say...I dont really like them, I know its the principle of the matter, but honestly its $45 and one point, pay it and live with it, dont worry his time will come becuase one day some little punk at KFC or Hungry Jacks or Krispy Creme will spit in his coffee and add his own "filling" to his donut/burger becuase he gave him the shits one night too.
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bah
i know its the principal of the matter eyt bend over and take it liek a man is NOT the aussie way
fight it even if it costs you twice as much to the stage that they fuckers consider ever dong it again when every single person does it
remember people the only thign these c01nts know is statistics so give them oen they cant ignore
100% dissatisfaction in the current system
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exactly.
like, what happens next time i get pulled over for the exact same thing.. and the next... and the next.. if i fuck it off once, i can basically not get fined for it again
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Sat, 16 April 2005 00:35
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that sucks johal....hope you get the fine revoked 
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Sat, 16 April 2005 00:44
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me too.. its not the money, 50 bucks is nothing.. BUT its the principle of the thing.. its bullshit
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Sat, 16 April 2005 01:11
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You have to watch exhaust fines. There are strict guidelines for testing which no cop seems to abide by.
A) the exhaust can only be tested at idle.
B) the DB meter needs to be x from the outlet pipe and y above
c) a test does not consist of sticking the DB meter up the pipe and revving the shite out of the car!!!!
It is good to see you got the officer number though. cause that will help
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Sat, 16 April 2005 01:40
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| ndgcpr wrote on Sat, 16 April 2005 09:11 |
You have to watch exhaust fines. There are strict guidelines for testing which no cop seems to abide by.
A) the exhaust can only be tested at idle.
B) the DB meter needs to be x from the outlet pipe and y above
c) a test does not consist of sticking the DB meter up the pipe and revving the shite out of the car!!!!
It is good to see you got the officer number though. cause that will help
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Are you sure?
Most states are done at 75% of peak power, ie, around 3500rpm.
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Sat, 16 April 2005 02:04
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| CrUZsida wrote on Sat, 16 April 2005 11:40 |
| ndgcpr wrote on Sat, 16 April 2005 09:11 |
You have to watch exhaust fines. There are strict guidelines for testing which no cop seems to abide by.
A) the exhaust can only be tested at idle.
B) the DB meter needs to be x from the outlet pipe and y above
c) a test does not consist of sticking the DB meter up the pipe and revving the shite out of the car!!!!
It is good to see you got the officer number though. cause that will help
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Are you sure?
Most states are done at 75% of peak power, ie, around 3500rpm.
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really?that seems a bit silly.. cause like some cars can be quiet as a mouse when not driving under power..but as soon as you plant the foot are heaps loud.. that just seems silly
I got his number anyway
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Sat, 16 April 2005 02:20
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Silly, yes.
False, no.
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Sat, 16 April 2005 02:50
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I thought it was like this (from APS website) :
Exhaust Noise Testing
Many statutory bodies around the world currently mandate that vehicles comply with stationary exhaust noise tests specifications - Generally based upon the "SAE J1169 Measurement of Light Vehicle Exhaust Sound Level under Stationary Conditions"
For example, California and various other states in the US mandate J1169 SAE stationary noise tests. In Australia the test requirements are ADR 28/01 stationary noise test and it too is based upon SAE J1169. In fact, the above tests have identical test procedures and only the required limit varies:
USA . . . . . . 95 dB
Australia . . . 90 dB
The test involves positioning a type 1, SIA compliant ANSI S1.4 - 1983 noise level meter, specifically as illustrated in the diagram below. No other positioning is relevant! Noise tests are extremely specific in their scope and must be conducted very carefully!
Diagram from SAEJ1169 Testing Procedures
Engine RPM must be held steady at 75% of rated peak horsepower RPM.
Given the latter figure is 6,000 RPM for the US spec. WRX/STI, the test speed is 4,500 RPM for these vehicles.
Again, it must be emphasised, all facets of a noise test must be specifically followed for the test to have any meaning.
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Wed, 20 April 2005 05:49
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hmm that ADR sounds wrong
My one tunna will be defected as soon as i hit 100km/h in top gear. my tunna has to be under 96db
no under 90.
Cars after 83 or 85? need to be about 86db was my understanding.
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Wed, 20 April 2005 08:52
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fight it even if it costs you twice as much to the stage that they fuckers consider ever dong it again when every single person does it
remember people the only thign these c01nts know is statistics so give them oen they cant ignore
100% dissatisfaction in the current system
totally agree if everybody stood up and said this is bullshit the system would be so overwhelmed it would be awsome. I have been fortunate enough to only have ever been caught a couple of times - generally pulled up and have to contend with arsewipe attitude trying to get me to bite thus playing into their hands esculating the situation if I was to, but its a pitty the general aussie attitude is as long as its not me getting kicked in the nuts give em one more, ill stand by over here siently and wait my turn for you to kick me in the nuts. Current system is bullshit and the brown nose, couldnt catch a real crim if he was nocking something off infront of him type cop love the ego trip. Atleast make it as difficult as possible by writing letters of complaint to his superiors etc, unfortunately untill enough drongos wake up (at which point there will probably be anarchy real inteligence is rare in Australia) not much is going to change the average idiot will still vote labour or liberal - same thing different puppet and another 4 years of Australia being sold off to forign interests, we have the resourses in the ground, being sold for what they are worth revinue rasing is totally unneeded.
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Wed, 20 April 2005 08:57
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fight it even if it costs you twice as much
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Theres some great logic for you 
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if everybody stood up and said this is bullshit the system would be so overwhelmed it would be awsome.
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But over 95% of the people would agree that the system is good, and that it works.
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unfortunately untill enough drongos wake up (at which point there will probably be anarchy real inteligence is rare in Australia) not much is going to change the average idiot will still vote labour or liberal - same thing different puppet and another 4 years of Australia being sold off to forign interests, we have the resourses in the ground, being sold for what they are worth revinue rasing is totally unneeded.
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What makes you think Australia is any different to any other large country on the planet?
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Wed, 20 April 2005 13:44
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hey mate,
sounds like you have been singled out by the police, who would've imagined!
I had a similar incident happen to me down in sydney, i have a stock S13 silvia, i was pulled over randomly one night after a cop pulled a u-turn at a set of lights. He then proceeded to try and tell me i was speeding down a road which i didn't even drive down, and that i was lucky he didn't lock onto me with his radar. He then began looking inside the car for gauges, asked if my licence was disqualified (?) then let me go.
Sometimes it just feels like it's not worth driving cars that you have a passion for! let's all conform and drive commodores!
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Wed, 20 April 2005 23:24
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| F|sh wrote on Wed, 20 April 2005 15:49 |
hmm that ADR sounds wrong
My one tunna will be defected as soon as i hit 100km/h in top gear. my tunna has to be under 96db
no under 90.
Cars after 83 or 85? need to be about 86db was my understanding.
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I think 85db is the limit for one of the driveby tests. There are many noise tests, conducted in different ways with diffeent limits - Wide-open throttle tests, steady RPM & throttle tests, constant speed driveby, etc. etc.. .
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Wed, 20 April 2005 23:31
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Its weird.. when my car was stock, they used to pull me up ALL THE TIME.. now that its heavily modified, ive only been pulled up like 3 times over 8 months, one was justified... but they were following me for ages trying to get anythin on me.. (got done for driving a manual car with auto license)
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Re: Defected but not, Police prove their uselessness once again!
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Thu, 21 April 2005 00:41
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I'm curious to know how much more often I get pulled over now with my super-sexy wheels. Before, with the stockies, even when I was driving normally (read: not always according to the laws) I only got pulled over a couple of times, and never booked. I'm willing to bet they'll see my bling, hear my exhaust and pull me over for a reaming now.
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Brisbane
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July 2002
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Re: Defected but not, Police prove their uselessness once again!
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Thu, 21 April 2005 01:18
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pack ze anal lube, will make it SO much less harsh
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Location:
opening a can of whoop ass
Registered:
June 2004
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Re: Defected but not, Police prove their uselessness once again!
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Thu, 21 April 2005 04:12
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| Jag7799 wrote on Sat, 16 April 2005 10:44 |
me too.. its not the money, 50 bucks is nothing.. BUT its the principle of the thing.. its bullshit
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and the principle is this copper will be out to rape you every chance he gets cause you kicked up a stink about a $50 ticket.
go get an exhaust test and keep it in the car.
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Location:
Sydney
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: Defected but not, Police prove their uselessness once again!
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Thu, 21 April 2005 04:16
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meh you have a modified car, get used to it.
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Location:
BRAY PARK BRISBANE
Registered:
March 2005
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Re: Defected but not, Police prove their uselessness once again!
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Thu, 21 April 2005 04:26
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the cops in that area are bad i used to work in arana hills at the shell servo
i got booked for doing a burnout when i did a uturn, what actualy happened was that i did a u turn and my lsd went doot doot doot and that was it.
they followed us another night from there to aspley at 12:30 at night with no headlights on
and used to pull me over all the time till i sold my skyline shilloute (standard aus spec) and brought a monaro (go figure)
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Location:
Brisbane
Registered:
July 2002
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Re: Defected but not, Police prove their uselessness once again!
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Thu, 21 April 2005 05:12
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the majority that have pulled me over have been reasonably nice.. the one who got me for auto license driving a man car was a real prick about it, i wasnt angry.. and i was as nice as pie to him.. i could see the fact that it wasnt getting to me made him even more angry...
this one was just a total fuckwit
No news back on the letter yet, hopefully before too long.. i leave for the UK in 1 week
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Location:
Brisbane
Registered:
July 2002
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Re: Defected but not, Police prove their uselessness once again!
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Thu, 21 April 2005 05:15
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I just dont like getting treated like i raped a small child every time i get pulled over..
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Location:
Coffs Harbour, NSW
Registered:
November 2004
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Re: Defected but not, Police prove their uselessness once again!
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Thu, 21 April 2005 05:36
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| Jag7799 wrote on Thu, 21 April 2005 15:15 |
I just dont like getting treated like i raped a small child every time i get pulled over..
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Central Coast, NSW
Registered:
February 2005
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Re: Defected but not, Police prove their uselessness once again!
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Thu, 21 April 2005 05:45
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| Bugman wrote on Thu, 21 April 2005 14:16 |
meh you have a modified car, get used to it.
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Since when should owning a modified car mean you deserve to get persecuted?
I own a completely bone stock soarer, so if I get the same treatment, does that mean I have a right to complain and he doesn't?
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I supported Toymods
Location:
Sutho/Hills NSW
Registered:
September 2002
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Re: Defected but not, Police prove their uselessness once again!
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Thu, 21 April 2005 08:20
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Let's get physical, physical
I wanna get physical
Let's get into physical
Let me hear your body talk, your body talk
Let me hear your body talk
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Location:
Brisbane
Registered:
July 2002
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Re: Defected but not, Police prove their uselessness once again!
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Thu, 21 April 2005 08:29
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| EvilJack wrote on Thu, 21 April 2005 18:20 |
Let's get physical, physical
I wanna get physical
Let's get into physical
Let me hear your body talk, your body talk
Let me hear your body talk
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Location:
Coffs Harbour, NSW
Registered:
November 2004
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Re: Defected but not, Police prove their uselessness once again!
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Thu, 21 April 2005 09:05
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| EvilJack wrote on Thu, 21 April 2005 18:20 |
Let's get physical, physical
I wanna get physical
Let's get into physical
Let me hear your body talk, your body talk
Let me hear your body talk
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i was gonna post that, but i thought better of it, for obvious reasons
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Location:
Brisbane
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May 2004
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Re: Defected but not, Police prove their uselessness once again!
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Thu, 21 April 2005 12:57
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ok... no offence cruzida, but your first post is a load of crap.
the police DON'T have the right to heap as much shit as they can at you, legal/illegal, rule/no rule, then see what sticks.
i try time and time again to take a positive attitude towards to the police, but stories such as this, and various incidents i have witnessed first hand have completely 100% destroyed my faith in a system that is meant to ensure the safety of road users.
please stand up for yourself jag7799. some people here know what needs to be done.
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Location:
Brisbane
Registered:
July 2002
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Re: Defected but not, Police prove their uselessness once again!
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Thu, 21 April 2005 13:04
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| white86 wrote on Thu, 21 April 2005 22:57 |
ok... no offence cruzida, but your first post is a load of crap.
the police DON'T have the right to heap as much shit as they can at you, legal/illegal, rule/no rule, then see what sticks.
i try time and time again to take a positive attitude towards to the police, but stories such as this, and various incidents i have witnessed first hand have completely 100% destroyed my faith in a system that is meant to ensure the safety of road users.
please stand up for yourself jag7799. some people here know what needs to be done.
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if they fuck me around.. and dont let me off with that letter, when i get back from the UK ill take it to court or something.. see how i go
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I supported Toymods
Location:
sydney.au
Registered:
August 2002
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Re: Defected but not, Police prove their uselessness once again!
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Tue, 26 April 2005 09:19
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im glad in EPA situations i have a tunable rev limiter on my car
hehehe
"yes officer im flooring it..."
murrrrrr @ 5000 rpm
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Location:
Brisbane
Registered:
July 2002
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Re: Defected but not, Police prove their uselessness once again!
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Fri, 29 April 2005 03:30
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half of success
"Dear Mr Gow,
I acknowledge receipt of your correspondence concerning the issue of the above traffic infringement notice, and I advice that investigations will be conducted into this matter.
No action need be taken to pay the penalty associated with this notice, until you receive further advice.
Yours faithfully" woo
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Location:
Newcastle
Registered:
June 2004
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Re: Defected but not, Police prove their uselessness once again!
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Fri, 29 April 2005 03:32
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gs mate glad to hear they r at least considering it
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