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A Idea. XF Ute + 1UZ+Auto (Toyospares -- Looking at you!)
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Thu, 21 April 2005 08:31
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I'm thinking of getting a XF ute for a tow car among things, and I was also thinking of the eligability for it to have a 1uz (maybe one of the landcruiser 2 uz's? with an auto behind it. All standard, standard computer and the likes.
Matt, I'm thinkng I'd be able to get some form of complete conversion from you no?
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Re: A Idea. XF Ute + 1UZ+Auto (Toyospares -- Looking at you!)
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Thu, 21 April 2005 08:32
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| stradlater wrote on Thu, 21 April 2005 18:31 |
I'm thinking of getting a XF ute for a tow car among things, and I was also thinking of the eligability for it to have a 1uz (maybe one of the landcruiser 2 uz's? with an auto behind it. All standard, standard computer and the likes.
Matt, I'm thinkng I'd be able to get some form of complete conversion from you no?
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too much fucking around just drop a cheapo 351 or even a 460 can be had for very little
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Re: A Idea. XF Ute + 1UZ+Auto (Toyospares -- Looking at you!)
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Thu, 21 April 2005 09:19
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460 huh?
I was hoping for some sort of fuel efficiency though.
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Re: A Idea. XF Ute + 1UZ+Auto (Toyospares -- Looking at you!)
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Thu, 21 April 2005 10:06
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Late-model 302's aren't too bad for fuel. Should be a bolt-in too.
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Re: A Idea. XF Ute + 1UZ+Auto (Toyospares -- Looking at you!)
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Thu, 21 April 2005 10:08
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1UZ into XF has been done.
One of the guys on Lextreme just bought one.
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Re: A Idea. XF Ute + 1UZ+Auto (Toyospares -- Looking at you!)
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Thu, 21 April 2005 11:24
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Just out of interest where do u plan to get the funds for all this crap lol but i tell ya if you want to do it, im up for the helping tasks, just wait a couple of weeks till i get my car sorted out 
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Re: A Idea. XF Ute + 1UZ+Auto (Toyospares -- Looking at you!)
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Thu, 21 April 2005 11:38
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I'm gonna buy an XF as a tow car and a daily driver to the train station and back for when I move back home.
Because I have lost my car park in the city now
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Re: A Idea. XF Ute + 1UZ+Auto (Toyospares -- Looking at you!)
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Thu, 21 April 2005 11:46
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just buy a 351 clevo, itll end up costing u a LOT less and be a LOT easier than rooting around with a toyota v8.
Id expect for a whole conversion pending box you choose etc itd only be ~$3000 including a reasonably GC motor....
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Re: A Idea. XF Ute + 1UZ+Auto (Toyospares -- Looking at you!)
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Thu, 21 April 2005 12:17
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It has been done I have worked on it and it go's great 
As a tow car you could not ask for more I use my UZX-73 to tow the rally car on a tandem trailer to rally's and when I am passing cars going up steep hills at 130km/h (not that I condone that sort of thing  )and using FA fuel doing it, I am smiling very wide
I Have not heard of ANY engine from ANY manufacturer that is more efficient or reliable than the LEXUS V8.
Short term cost would be the ONLY reason you would use anything else.
MATT.
P.S. gee do I sound like a 1UZ fan 
P.P.S yes we do a kit give me a call (03)9720-3177
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Re: A Idea. XF Ute + 1UZ+Auto (Toyospares -- Looking at you!)
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Thu, 21 April 2005 13:22
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Clevo into an XF requires extra work cutting the firewall etc. anyway - definately not worth the effort. Then again, the Toyota V8 is a tight fit as well, and probably needs the same mods, which are quite common in falcon circles. Remove the XF heater box etc., cut that piece out of the firewall, weld in similiar piece from XD/XE and use the earlier heater box. Anyway, best I shut up about Falcons before somebody round here spears me 
If you're keen, do it. The rest of the car will still be a pile of scrap, but at least the engine will be alright
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Re: A Idea. XF Ute + 1UZ+Auto (Toyospares -- Looking at you!)
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Thu, 21 April 2005 13:25
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xfs were designed for clevos shinny....you sure you're not confused with later/ earlier motors where windsors were fitted?
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Re: A Idea. XF Ute + 1UZ+Auto (Toyospares -- Looking at you!)
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Thu, 21 April 2005 13:44
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Don't think so. Then again, one should never argue with a true Ford nut 
(I may be wrong, but I'm fairly sure XF's have got the heater hoses coming out bang in the middle of one of the heads on a Clevo, but the Windsor is slightly narrower and can pretty much be jammed in there??)
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Re: A Idea. XF Ute + 1UZ+Auto (Toyospares -- Looking at you!)
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Thu, 21 April 2005 13:47
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| mrshin wrote on Thu, 21 April 2005 23:44 |
Don't think so. Then again, one should never argue with a true Ford nut
(I may be wrong, but I'm fairly sure XF's have got the heater hoses coming out bang in the middle of one of the heads on a Clevo, but the Windsor is slightly narrower and can pretty much be jammed in there??)
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well my windsor into ma61 was a piss easy conversion, only thing we modded was xmember and sump... heater hose on windsors comes out of timing covers..clevos i dunno where they are...
windsor is a better motor anyway...better revving, more performance orientated...and smaller!
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Re: A Idea. XF Ute + 1UZ+Auto (Toyospares -- Looking at you!)
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Thu, 21 April 2005 13:53
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What I meant is where the heater hoses come out in the car, not on the engine.
The Clevo vs. Windsor argument is always a good one for meatheads after a few bourbons
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Re: A Idea. XF Ute + 1UZ+Auto (Toyospares -- Looking at you!)
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Thu, 21 April 2005 13:55
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| mrshin wrote on Thu, 21 April 2005 23:53 |
The Clevo vs. Windsor argument is always a good one for meatheads after a few bourbons
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much like myself really...
nfi re heater hoses, as i think xfs are poo...long live XA,XB, and XC..and some XDs are tuff looking when done right
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Re: A Idea. XF Ute + 1UZ+Auto (Toyospares -- Looking at you!)
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Thu, 21 April 2005 13:59
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| V8_MA61 wrote on Thu, 21 April 2005 23:25 |
xfs were designed for clevos shinny....
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if they were designed for clevos why did they never release a v8 in them?
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Re: A Idea. XF Ute + 1UZ+Auto (Toyospares -- Looking at you!)
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Thu, 21 April 2005 14:07
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my apologies, it was the XE and XD with the 5.8L or 351 cleveland.
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Re: A Idea. XF Ute + 1UZ+Auto (Toyospares -- Looking at you!)
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Fri, 22 April 2005 00:01
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Easy on the lock thread, I wasn't after an argument. I was just after some advice. But looks like the man who was going to give me the advice already has. Just gotta find out how much it costs now.
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Re: A Idea. XF Ute + 1UZ+Auto (Toyospares -- Looking at you!)
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Fri, 22 April 2005 02:50
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| mrshin wrote on Thu, 21 April 2005 21:22 |
Clevo into an XF requires extra work cutting the firewall etc. anyway - definately not worth the effort. Then again, the Toyota V8 is a tight fit as well, and probably needs the same mods, which are quite common in falcon circles. Remove the XF heater box etc., cut that piece out of the firewall, weld in similiar piece from XD/XE and use the earlier heater box. Anyway, best I shut up about Falcons before somebody round here spears me
If you're keen, do it. The rest of the car will still be a pile of scrap, but at least the engine will be alright
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Consider yourself speared!!!
I've skimed the whole thread and will simply add:
XF's never came with any form of V8, and as such have a slightly different firewall with relocated heater pipes, compared to the older XD and XE Falcons. As a result when fitting a Cleveland V8 into an XF you need to pay attention to those heater pipes, they will be very close to the LH rocker cover - ut with a bit of gentle manipulation, you can install the motor, move the pipes slightly and have everything happy - been there done that. I'd say the Windsor would be an even easier install, however their rarity and cost these days is enough to make most people stay with a Cleveland. You don't need to cut the firewall, you just need to pay attention!
Contact "cosmorotor" on these forums - he has a friend with a twin turbo Lexus V8 into XF, so should be able to give you a few pointers on install.
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Re: A Idea. XF Ute + 1UZ+Auto (Toyospares -- Looking at you!)
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Fri, 22 April 2005 02:55
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Twin turbo XF hey? Hrm.....
*thinks*
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Re: A Idea. XF Ute + 1UZ+Auto (Toyospares -- Looking at you!)
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Fri, 22 April 2005 05:32
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not worth the effort of a 1uz you could get ether of these for probably $500 cash 
FORD FAIRMONT 1979 yellow, sedan V8 4.9ltr automatic, Runs very well. Small rust patches. No RWC. SUK267 FC $850 (0431)238515 Mentone
Ad Details:
MAKE/MODEL: Ford Falcon XD
YEAR: 1979
PRICE: $999.00
BODY: sedan
COLOUR: Green
TRANSMISSION: automatic
ENGINE: V8
REGO NUMBER: SKD-460
as traded, good motor and box.
DEALER: Tony's Cars Sales
DEALER NUMBER: LMCT8828
PHONE: (03)96879933
ADDRESS: 130 Moreland Street
Footscray,VIC 3011
EDIT: THORPY SPEC BELOW..
Ford XE 302 V8, motor in A1 condition, pedders sports susp, new brakes, 2.5in exhuast, 12 slotters, good tyres, needs respray, PTH-339 $1800ono (03)97379012, Silvan.
[Updated on: Fri, 22 April 2005 05:37]
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Re: A Idea. XF Ute + 1UZ+Auto (Toyospares -- Looking at you!)
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Fri, 22 April 2005 05:38
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You suggesting buy whole car and put v8 out of other car into the ute and then trash the other car?
I guess I'd probably get all the bits I needed out of the spare car too hey?
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Re: A Idea. XF Ute + 1UZ+Auto (Toyospares -- Looking at you!)
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Fri, 22 April 2005 06:38
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you have room dont you
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Re: A Idea. XF Ute + 1UZ+Auto (Toyospares -- Looking at you!)
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Fri, 22 April 2005 06:46
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Oh hell yeah, I was just checking what you meant.
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Melbourne
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Re: A Idea. XF Ute + 1UZ+Auto (Toyospares -- Looking at you!)
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Fri, 22 April 2005 07:23
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plop the 6cyl in the shitter and thrash it around the farm like you should with an old ford
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Re: A Idea. XF Ute + 1UZ+Auto (Toyospares -- Looking at you!)
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Fri, 22 April 2005 07:25
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Hrm, yes, Sounds like a plan.
May require some assistance, fords aren't my thing.
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Melbourne
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Re: A Idea. XF Ute + 1UZ+Auto (Toyospares -- Looking at you!)
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Fri, 22 April 2005 07:29
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| stradlater wrote on Fri, 22 April 2005 17:25 |
Hrm, yes, Sounds like a plan.
May require some assistance, fords aren't my thing.
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thay are just like a toyota just less bolts but in harder places... in fact thay can make an entire BA falcon with one melted down M series engine block
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Re: A Idea. XF Ute + 1UZ+Auto (Toyospares -- Looking at you!)
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Fri, 22 April 2005 07:39
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Shit, I hope for the sake of some of my mates, that's not infact the case
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Re: A Idea. XF Ute + 1UZ+Auto (Toyospares -- Looking at you!)
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Sat, 23 April 2005 14:29
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We should all head over to www.ford.pussbucket.slabsofiron.boatanchor.com
for more info they should be able to help.
MATT.
P.S. if the link does not work its because they could not afford internet after paying $1.16 /lt for petrol
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Re: A Idea. XF Ute + 1UZ+Auto (Toyospares -- Looking at you!)
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Sun, 24 April 2005 02:52
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Stradlater - theres a number of XD and XE utes in the trading post atm with v8's already in them for under 7 grand ..
theres a BEAUTIFUL XD one i saw with a 351 in it - and XF front conversion too - black - simmons f45's - looks super tough ..
Im thinking of doing exactly the same as you atm - as back up for the ever in the workshop Gt4
either getting a falcon ute for daily hacking about - V8 preferred - or buying a sprinter or a GE swapped Ma61 to punt about in ..
any three of these examples should be able to be picked up well within my 6 - 7k budget
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Re: A Idea. XF Ute + 1UZ+Auto (Toyospares -- Looking at you!)
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Sun, 24 April 2005 04:44
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| Classique71 wrote on Sun, 24 April 2005 12:52 |
either getting a falcon ute for daily hacking about - V8 preferred - or buying a sprinter or a GE swapped Ma61 to punt about in ..
any three of these examples should be able to be picked up well within my 6 - 7k budget
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you could get a 7m-ge ma70 for 7k! wana be one hell of a ma61 for 7k!
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