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Melbourne
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June 2004
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Thu, 21 October 2004 22:49
 
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Fair enuff honky, fair enuff.
I got teh Sime-Tyres koz they were cheap-as, soft, and looked like they'd throw out HEAPS of water (wide channels). Luckily, I guessed right, and they were great in the wet.
May I suggest U save de pennies for cheapie magz and decent tyres, next time around? U can get decent rimz 4 $200/corner nowadays, and decent tyres for $130/corner. Hmm, that still adds up to a $1320 package. . . Cheap for some (Me), a goddamn fortune for others.
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Location:
Campbelltown, NSW, Austra...
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January 2004
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Thu, 21 October 2004 23:55
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I would have gone the Bridgestone Turanze Gr50s, i used these on my camry and i can't fault them, cost $120 per tyre, but performed quite well in the wet.
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Location:
Campbelltown
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November 2003
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Fri, 22 October 2004 03:39
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Yeah I looked at geting some mags, could have got package from bob jane for around 800-900 but that came with shit tyres. My uncle used to work at alan jones pit stop, and prob could have tracked some down pretty cheap as still has contacts, but I was rushed for time cos I wanted to get it done in the school holidays as I am doing the HSC. I looked at getting some second hand mags off the forum but were none around at the time. The about a month and a half ago some AVANTE mags were advertised of a corona was gonna buy them so next time I could get some wider tyres, but then had a minor accident and have been stock piling money to get the car fixed. But once again my uncle a top bloke has offered to fix the car for me as he reckons he should be able to I'll prob get him case a beer or something but heaps better than the 500-730 I was quoted.
I might save up and get a new car though the rona is starting to cost a bit ie petrol, and the engine isn't really in tip top shape. Still makes heaps of power but is starting to use plenty of oil and blowign bit of smoke(only when cold).
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Location:
Campbelltown, NSW, Austra...
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January 2004
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Fri, 22 October 2004 04:16
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Do you drive a blue Corona rt142 5 speed with silver Corona Extra stickers on the side?
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Location:
Campbelltown
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November 2003
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Fri, 22 October 2004 04:23
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yep thats me, where abouts in campbelltown are you, I live there to.
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Location:
Campbelltown, NSW, Austra...
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January 2004
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Location:
Campbelltown
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November 2003
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Fri, 22 October 2004 04:25
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yep thats me, which one were you
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Location:
Campbelltown, NSW, Austra...
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January 2004
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Fri, 22 October 2004 04:27
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Keith
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Location:
Campbelltown
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November 2003
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Fri, 22 October 2004 04:30
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I'm still at k-mart, will work there hopefully a bit once hsc is over, had the last month off, the car hasn't been driven for a while cos of them damage ie smashed indicator, dont wanna risk a fine, so drive me mums camry and my sisters pulsar at the moment, bit more mundane, man I miss rwd and a bit more torque camry isn't too bad but you gotta rev it before it really kicks in
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Location:
Campbelltown, NSW, Austra...
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January 2004
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Fri, 22 October 2004 04:35
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Yeah i sold the camry last month, im driving an 04 Hyundai Elantra now, much better than the camry. Puts out 105kw and its much quicker than the camry being a manual and all. I don't like the stock tyres tho, some traction issues in the wet 
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Location:
Sydney
Registered:
September 2004
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Fri, 22 October 2004 17:09
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| st184 sillycar wrote on Thu, 21 October 2004 18:50 |
| thu187 wrote on Thu, 21 October 2004 18:45 |
Since when to FWD cars get bagged out?
My friend's just like "get RWD baby, drift!"
but never once have i been dissed about owning a FWD car
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Listen to your friend. He is wise. 
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I know, I am.
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Location:
Melbourne
Registered:
June 2004
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Location:
Melbourne
Registered:
June 2004
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Mon, 04 April 2005 11:55
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This is for Rona_Drifta
Read this entire thread from top to bottom, champ.
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Location:
Coffs Harbour, NSW
Registered:
November 2004
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Tue, 05 April 2005 02:27
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| st184 sillycar wrote on Mon, 04 April 2005 21:55 |
This is for Rona_Drifta
Read this entire thread from top to bottom, champ.
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Location:
Melbourne
Registered:
June 2004
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Tue, 05 April 2005 23:48
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| skellator wrote on Tue, 05 April 2005 12:27 |
| st184 sillycar wrote on Mon, 04 April 2005 21:55 |
This is for Rona_Drifta
Read this entire thread from top to bottom, champ.
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Well, He did seem quite concerned about what everyone else genuinely thinks on the subject . . . . . 
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Location:
Sydney
Registered:
September 2003
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Tue, 05 April 2005 23:55
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| Camry_omega wrote on Fri, 22 October 2004 14:35 |
Yeah i sold the camry last month, im driving an 04 Hyundai Elantra now, much better than the camry. Puts out 105kw and its much quicker than the camry being a manual and all. I don't like the stock tyres tho, some traction issues in the wet
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Why oh why, the only time i would get an elantra is if someone payed me to take it off their hands  .
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Location:
Central Coast, NSW
Registered:
February 2005
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Wed, 06 April 2005 00:15
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| smt_007 wrote on Wed, 06 April 2005 09:55 |
Why oh why, the only time i would get an elantra is if someone payed me to take it off their hands .
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Is that just a stereotype because you bag hyundais, or have you actually driven one?
You'd be surprised, you know...
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Location:
Sydney
Registered:
September 2003
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Wed, 06 April 2005 01:41
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Yes i have driven Hyundais including elantras, i would not pay money for one, when there is TOYOTA  .
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Location:
Melbourne
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June 2004
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Wed, 06 April 2005 01:54
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You'd never believe it, but TRUST ME - Daewoo's are REALLY WELL BUILT ! 
And no, I'm not being sarcastic!
shame about the piddly little motors and econ-o-shyte styling 
As for the Hyundai's - I can only comment on Excels - and I wouldn't touch one with a 10-foot pole!
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Location:
Sydney
Registered:
September 2003
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Wed, 06 April 2005 01:57
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| st184 sillycar wrote on Wed, 06 April 2005 11:54 |
You'd never believe it, but TRUST ME - Daewoo's are REALLY WELL BUILT !
And no, I'm not being sarcastic!
shame about the piddly little motors and econ-o-shyte styling
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They are so well built that you need to give away your st184 to me, and get yourself a Daewoo .
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Location:
Central Coast, NSW
Registered:
February 2005
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Wed, 06 April 2005 02:11
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| smt_007 wrote on Wed, 06 April 2005 11:41 |
Yes i have driven Hyundais including elantras, i would not pay money for one, when there is TOYOTA .
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at the risk of sounding like a fanboy, i'll say OF COURSE I'd prefer a toyota (at least from what I've driven from toyota anyway...)
But new hyundais arent exactly the shitboxes everyone seems to think they are. They have some quality cars!
my old 1997 excel twincam went pretty hard
well, it wasnt mine, it was my parents, but i drove it... A LOT that was a fair while ago now but 
seems that the normal ones and excel "sprints" were the crappy ones... the twin cam one is really nice to drive!
i saw it the other day when i went round to visit my parents... its got 195,000km on the clock, thing still starts up straight away at the turn of the key and sounds and feels like it runs brand new 
Still prefer a manual corolla over it though.
Not the one with a 4A-FE though
edit: I'm gonna get burned for saying I don't mind hyundais, aren't I?
[Updated on: Wed, 06 April 2005 03:36]
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Location:
Campbelltown, NSW, Austra...
Registered:
January 2004
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Wed, 06 April 2005 07:17
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Well its been about 9 months since i got my elantra and i haven't had a problem with it. Its not as fuel efficent as i thought, i average about 9.0l/100km.
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Location:
Melbourne
Registered:
June 2004
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Wed, 06 April 2005 23:12
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| smt_007 wrote on Wed, 06 April 2005 11:57 |
| st184 sillycar wrote on Wed, 06 April 2005 11:54 |
You'd never believe it, but TRUST ME - Daewoo's are REALLY WELL BUILT !
And no, I'm not being sarcastic!
shame about the piddly little motors and econ-o-shyte styling
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They are so well built that you need to give away your st184 to me, and get yourself a Daewoo .
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The SillyCar is sold - Sorry bro!
You can buy My skyline off Me for . . . nope. Sorry, not selling teh skyline. Ever.
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Location:
South Australia
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July 2002
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Fuck them up their stupid asses
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Sun, 24 April 2005 03:17
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I officially withdraw everything I've said in front wheel drives defence. E-W is utter bollocks (except I might let a few mid engined cars get away with it) and if you want to know why, well expect to get a barrage of swear words coming your way describing my experiences with these so called wonders of automotive engineering.
Objectively they (FWDs) aren't total crud, but subjectively I think they are piles of dog shit and I can't stand to own one much longer. To use someone elses words -> Fuck front wheel drives, fuck them up their stupid asses.
Long live N-S RWD/AWD (quattro/wrx/gallardo etc style)!!!
None of this is intended as offence to anyone who owns or loves their FWD cars, I can see why and I did love my car for a long time, but the love affair is over. Just like a marriage gone sour, it was good while it lasted
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I supported Toymods
Location:
Adelaide
Registered:
July 2004
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Sun, 24 April 2005 03:26
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sounds like someone has seen the light 
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Location:
NSW Engadine
Registered:
June 2003
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Sun, 24 April 2005 03:37
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This must be the oldest bitch fight in the history of toymods...
Well done!
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I Supported Toymods
Location:
Lwr Templestowe, Melbourne
Registered:
August 2004
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Re: Fuck them up their stupid asses
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Sun, 24 April 2005 04:35
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| FWDboy wrote on Sun, 24 April 2005 13:17 |
Long live N-S RWD/AWD (quattro/wrx/gallardo etc style)!!!
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Welcome to the dark side 
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Location:
Melbourne
Registered:
June 2004
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Re: Fuck them up their stupid asses
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Sun, 24 April 2005 05:20
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| FWDboy wrote on Sun, 24 April 2005 13:17 |
I officially withdraw everything I've said in front wheel drives defence. E-W is utter bollocks . . . . . . . . .
None of this is intended as offence to anyone who owns or loves their FWD cars, I can see why and I did love my car for a long time, but the love affair is over. Just like a marriage gone sour, it was good while it lasted
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What was the deal-breaker honky? did you try and change the timing belt with the engine in-place? understeer off the road?  Something must of happened to bring the dream crashing down around you !
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Location:
NSW Engadine
Registered:
June 2003
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Re: Fuck them up their stupid asses
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Sun, 24 April 2005 05:21
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Yeah, I also want to know what could break a man so suddenly...
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Location:
Wahroonga
Registered:
June 2003
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Sun, 24 April 2005 08:53
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There has to be a reason for him changing his mind so rapidly.
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I supported Toymods
Location:
Adelaide
Registered:
July 2004
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Sun, 24 April 2005 09:05
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they are junk isnt that enough of a reason?
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Location:
South Australia
Registered:
July 2002
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Sun, 24 April 2005 15:31
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Call it an epiphany if you will....I just realised my foolishness I'm just sick of working on the things - you can't do anything with the engine in the car (although I have mastered several 'impossible' feats, such as timing belt changes with the engine inside the car). There is of course, the fact that Toyota are absolutely shocking engineers. I'm sorry to say but every time they stuff something up, they just throw money at the problem, make some kind of bracket and add more bolts to the engine. Whoever works on the different components and the layout of the mechanicals don't communicate well together and end up making a prick of a car to work on. At least with a more conventional layout (read: RWD) there is so much background knowledge about how to put the things together that they don't totally botch it.
That and I've spent bazillions on these cars (ST162 and ST165) and I never get to drive them! They cost to much to just get ON to the road, let alone keep them there.
Whereas my shitbox RA65 that I picked up for $250 still goes and provides about twenty times the fun in five minutes that I've experienced in 4 years of owning ST16x.
To be honest, it all comes down to personal experience. I can say that I've been there and toyed with the FWD and AWD cars (E-W only) and I can't say there's alot I *like* about them anymore. At least not enough to make me want to own one. Now it's time to move on to something that is just, simply, better by design.
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Location:
Melbourne
Registered:
June 2004
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Mon, 25 April 2005 10:35
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Haha - Yeeaahh!
Not wanting to gloat or anything, but I seem to remember saying something along those lines about a year ago, somewhere about page 2->4 of this thread . . . . Sing Halleluja brother . . . SING IT !!
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Location:
South Australia
Registered:
July 2002
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Mon, 25 April 2005 11:33
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I expected you to say that - Mr Gloaty Gloat
The fact is, it's all personal opinion and it's still REALLY hard to say that - objectively - FWD is worse than the others. In my personal experience I have enjoyed RWD more and that's all I can say - that these days I can enjoy RWD more than I can FWD, simply because it's too damn hard for me to keep my FWD cars together and drive them.
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Location:
Melbourne
Registered:
June 2004
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Tue, 26 April 2005 00:07
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| FWDboy wrote on Mon, 25 April 2005 21:33 |
I expected you to say that - Mr Gloaty Gloat
The fact is, it's all personal opinion and it's still REALLY hard to say that - objectively - FWD is worse than the others. In my personal experience I have enjoyed RWD more and that's all I can say - that these days I can enjoy RWD more than I can FWD, simply because it's too damn hard for me to keep my FWD cars together and drive them.
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Muhahahaha - you should get an MR2 : all the joy of RWD, with the whacky, snappy Mid-Rear engine weight distribution craziness, plus all the hassles and headaches of an east-west engine layout! I think owning and working on one would have you in the asylum within 9 months
"I hate this ghey cramped engine bay, but I love the razor's-edge powerslides . . . . aaaaggghhhh!!!"
No seriously - get a TURBO MR2 !
Do it.
Do it.
Do it.
Do it.
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Location:
South Australia
Registered:
July 2002
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Tue, 26 April 2005 01:09
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Hahaha - a car would have to be f***ing damn good for me to accept E-W engine layout. Maybe something like a Lancia Delta S4 maybe, of course it would be a bitch to work on, but really who cares
Until RWD bites me hard in the arse I'll proclaim my love for it.
Now to get my nick changed.
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Location:
Campbelltown
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November 2003
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Tue, 26 April 2005 01:21
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Good to see you have seen the light FWDBOY, but it is likely i might go the other way at the end of this year if my parents have their say, stupid bums are like you can't buy an import its too risky, so if i want a new car its gonna be either a commodore for RWD or a FWD hatch ahhhhh.
Especially when it comes at a time when i am starting to think of a RWD car for possible drift days, i want a newer car sick of owning a old car that has regular problems, ie my fans died and i don't have time to have a look at it so i have no aircon.
Constant checking for oil, it is using a bit lately ahhh. I want a new car that i will still look after with weekly oil checks etc but just need less maintenance have less things that break on it and be a little faster and safer
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Location:
South Australia
Registered:
July 2002
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Tue, 26 April 2005 05:01
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Well looks like my nick has been 'corrected'
Corona -> Just buy an S15?
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Location:
Campbelltown
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November 2003
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Tue, 26 April 2005 05:11
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i am only 19 so an S15 is 4.5K for insurance just a bit too much for my liking
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Location:
VIC, Sth Frankston.
Registered:
July 2003
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Tue, 26 April 2005 06:29
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FWD/RWDboy, all I have to say is... I told you so
Congrats, welcome to the wonderful world of having a rear diff, oversteer, and a gearstick that sits in the gearbox.
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Location:
South Australia
Registered:
July 2002
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Tue, 26 April 2005 06:36
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Lets not forget better weight distributions, 'lighter' steering, less cornering induced oil surge problems, crazy oversteer-inducing engine braking and having to clutch in to use the handbrake on hairpin corner entry.
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Location:
brisbane
Registered:
December 2004
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Location:
South Australia
Registered:
July 2002
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Tue, 26 April 2005 13:13
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Yeah but racing on the road isn't very legal now is it
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Location:
brisbane
Registered:
December 2004
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Wed, 27 April 2005 06:05
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it was a controlld enviroment but lol
come to think of it it was a m8 driving lol
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Location:
cambo
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Wed, 27 April 2005 10:04
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handles better with jic coil overs and whiteline sway bars
http://photobucket.com/albums/v692/SDN16V/ Please disregard the dodgy cable ties around the brake line holding it to the strut im waitng to get a new set made
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Location:
Campbelltown, NSW, Austra...
Registered:
January 2004
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Wed, 27 April 2005 11:19
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I don't know, i think FWD cars corner like they are on rails, only instead of the rails going AROUND the corner, they go off on an angle into a gutter....
Im getting a rwd/awd for my next car.
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I supported Toymods
Location:
Adelaide
Registered:
July 2004
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Wed, 27 April 2005 13:48
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| Camry_omega wrote on Wed, 27 April 2005 20:49 |
I don't know, i think FWD cars corner like they are on rails, only instead of the rails going AROUND the corner, they go off on an angle into a gutter....
Im getting a rwd/awd for my next car.
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Location:
South Australia
Registered:
July 2002
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Wed, 27 April 2005 14:18
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Some ppl mistake good handling with torque steer
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