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melbourne
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February 2005
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moth balls
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Tue, 03 May 2005 07:08
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does ne one know where i can get liquid moth balls?
or how too make?
i was watching myth busters last night and they were doing tests on this motor n mixed petrol n liquid moth balls n it was like high octane fuel... 
well yah....
u thought i would ask if ne one knows where how or wat?
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Location:
Baulko Hillo
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April 2004
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Re: moth balls
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Tue, 03 May 2005 07:16
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I've been waiting for this post all day!
Despite the engine sounding a lot better post moth balls, i personally wouldn't recommend it...
Actually no - Do it. 
The bleach in the oil filler was my favourite though.
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Location:
Perth, WA
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December 2004
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Re: moth balls
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Tue, 03 May 2005 07:16
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pour methalated spirits into your fuel? that should raise your octane level... Failing that, medical alcohol.
goto bunnings or something... last time i checked they stock pretty much everything for around the house.
Eldar.O.
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Location:
melbourne
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February 2005
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Re: moth balls
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Tue, 03 May 2005 10:17
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hahah well i was waiting for this too but no body had it so i did it.... i reckon it is nutz... i was guna try it on my go kart motor (lawn mower engine) see if it has ne effect.... cheap hp!
i was thinkn bunnings but kinda b abit fishy going in there *Hi, im looking for liquid moth balls - do u have ne?* young fellow like me they be like *raise of eye browl* n wtf?
so yeah ill c
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Location:
Adelaide
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September 2003
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Re: moth balls
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Tue, 03 May 2005 10:21
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dont put in too many or your fuel will turn into napalm. Dont let bunnings know your mixing it with petrol. ASIO will arrest you!
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Location:
Newcastle
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July 2003
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Re: moth balls
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Tue, 03 May 2005 10:31
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if your actually keen get some moth balls, normal solid ones or the flakes and mix them with some petrol (outside tank) then i imagine they will disolve. then add away.. not that i recomend it..
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I Supported Toymods
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Casula
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January 2005
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Re: moth balls
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Tue, 03 May 2005 11:28
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Reads with interest and awaits the outcome.
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Melbourne, South East
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May 2004
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Re: moth balls
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Tue, 03 May 2005 11:49
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| Hi-Ace wrote on Tue, 03 May 2005 23:28 |
Reads with interest and awaits the outcome.
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likewise
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Location:
Sydney
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January 2003
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Location:
Sydney
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February 2005
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Re: moth balls
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Tue, 03 May 2005 12:25
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interesting.
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Location:
Perth
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August 2003
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Re: moth balls
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Tue, 03 May 2005 14:41
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haha heard about this, someone do it 
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Location:
melbourne
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February 2005
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Re: moth balls
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Wed, 04 May 2005 01:33
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i plan to do it.. but need to nkow where to get liquid or how too disolve the moth balls......
i wish i didnt drop out of bio chem n i wuold've kinda understood that ^^^ above.. i get it but would know more about n wat would happen but yah.......
where can i buy this toluene?
if i have a good liquid wat would b a good ratio for reconmendation?
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Location:
Central Coast, NSW
Registered:
February 2005
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Re: moth balls
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Wed, 04 May 2005 01:38
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| h3ff44 wrote on Wed, 04 May 2005 11:33 |
i plan to do it.. but need to nkow where to get liquid or how too disolve the moth balls......
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he told you how to dissolve them...
just put them in petrol, and then theyll dissolve... then put the petrol in your car
so if you have a jerrycan or fuel container, put a shitload of mothballs in there, then full with petrol
they'll dissolve in the petrol, and then you can pour that petrol into the engine!
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Location:
Brisbane
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February 2003
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Location:
Campbelltown
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November 2003
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Re: moth balls
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Wed, 04 May 2005 03:12
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hmmm nest we'll see all the noobs at the drift events pull out a pack of moth balls put them in a jerry can to dissolve em and poor it into the car, be funny anyway.
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Location:
melbourne
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February 2005
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Re: moth balls
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Wed, 04 May 2005 04:50
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| thechuckster wrote on Wed, 04 May 2005 13:09 |
| h3ff44 wrote on Wed, 04 May 2005 11:33 |
i plan to do it.. but need to nkow where to get liquid or how too disolve the moth balls......
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when you do make your moth-ball enhanced fuel - can you get a mate video the event so we can watch you run around screaming and on fire?
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haahah yeah i can imagine that............... running around no fire would kinda b amusing....
and as for drift shit... haahah could imagin that haha
how much do moth balls cost???? cbf goin to bunnings to c prices.....
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Location:
Adelaide
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September 2003
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Location:
melbourne
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February 2005
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Re: moth balls
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Wed, 04 May 2005 06:19
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| EnFlaMEd wrote on Wed, 04 May 2005 16:08 |
It will be an interesting experiment.
" I love the smell of napalm in the morning... "
If you really wanna see how flammable the stuff is, sprinkle it over a naked flame but keep your hands away.
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yeah i might try that and c wat happens... we have an open fire in the living room hahaha could get interesting..... ill get some video or audio either way... ill prob try n get to bunnings tomorrow coz i got guests over for dinner tonight so yah...
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Location:
NSW Engadine
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June 2003
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Re: moth balls
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Wed, 04 May 2005 06:39
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Yes, mothballs will slightly assist the octane rating of gasoline. HOWEVER, in
that grain of truth there lurks the potential for disaster. One must use very
few mothballs (naphthalene only) because the ratio of carbon to hydrogen in
the molecules makes for a very dirty burning fuel. Too many mothballs and your
engine will load up with carbon deposits -- very bad news in the performance
department.
Also DO NOT mistakenly use moth crystals (paradichlorobenzene). The chlorine
atoms in this material becomes HCl upon combustion. Hydrochloric acid (HCl) is
very destructive to engine internals.
Finally, unless your engine is high compression and in need of high octane
fuel, enhancing the octane rating of the fuel over what is required is simply
a waste of money. High octane fuel burned in an engine designed for lower
octane fuel does not increase engine power.
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Not recommended! Mothballs are often paradichlorobenzene, not
naphthalene. The former would form HCl and oxychlorides upon combustion
which would be very corrosive to the engine cylinders. Even if it is
naphthalene, the ignition system whether old fashioned carburetor or new
fashioned solid state, is not "expecting" an aromatic hydrocarbon. The
fuel/air combustion mix is going to be very smokey and possibly foul up the
engine, the fuel injectors (if present), and make a mess of you catalytic
converter. Sounds like a good way to mess up an engine to me.
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DO IT ANYWAY!!!!
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Location:
NSW Engadine
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June 2003
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Re: moth balls
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Wed, 04 May 2005 06:40
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Just make sure theyre the balls, not crystals...
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Location:
NSW Engadine
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June 2003
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Location:
Brisbane
Registered:
January 2005
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Re: moth balls
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Wed, 04 May 2005 08:25
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just buy 'napthalene flakes'
try your local woolies or other supermarket.
in the pest control section.
make a few phone calls and ask them if theyre pure napthalene or that other crap. itll save you a trip or nine.
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Location:
Dubbo NSW
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June 2004
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Re: moth balls
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Wed, 04 May 2005 14:46
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| Dr_Love wrote on Wed, 04 May 2005 18:25 |
make a few phone calls and ask them if theyre pure napthalene or that other crap. itll save you a trip or nine.
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He might as well make the trip or nine, get the most out of his car before he kills it
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Location:
melbourne
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February 2005
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Re: moth balls
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Thu, 05 May 2005 05:57
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well yeh.. a few calls might b needed but ehh how cares its like a 5min drive
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Location:
Brisbane
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January 2005
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Re: moth balls
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Mon, 09 May 2005 14:29
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dude i work @woolies and i happened to be filling the naphthalene flakes in the pest control aisle. 3$ for a 300g?? tub.
unsure of the size of the tub. was about the size of a can of beer but shorter and fatter.
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Location:
Adelaide
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January 2004
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Re: moth balls
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Mon, 09 May 2005 14:49
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u done it yet?
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Location:
Sydney
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September 2004
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Re: moth balls
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Tue, 10 May 2005 04:19
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Can someone PM me or let me know in this thread what time and channel this myth busters show is on?
I've heard quite a bit about it.
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Location:
Campbelltown
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November 2003
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Re: moth balls
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Tue, 10 May 2005 04:23
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SBS Monday nights at 7:30pm the series is probably neraing a n end but the DVD's are out.
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Location:
Tassie
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October 2003
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Tue, 10 May 2005 06:22
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it's also on cable TV aswell
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Location:
Sydney
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September 2004
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Re: moth balls
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Tue, 10 May 2005 07:06
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w00t thx! 
I'll check it out 
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Location:
melbourne
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February 2005
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Re: moth balls
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Tue, 10 May 2005 11:55
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| Arch wrote on Tue, 10 May 2005 00:49 |
u done it yet?
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sorry nah not yet... been tide down with work too do.... an extra work.. ill go have a look in woolies in lunch break tomoz!
and im guna need to top up my jerrycan with some fuel too!
i wonder if it would work with 2 stroke fuel? if u mix it then add in the oil mix?
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Location:
sydney
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May 2002
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Re: moth balls
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Tue, 10 May 2005 15:50
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metho is good every now and then thou. mixes whatever water u might have in your tank with the petrol.
anyone blown up yet?
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Location:
Perth, WA
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December 2004
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Tue, 10 May 2005 16:00
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putting WD40 in your tank cant be healthy, surely?
i understand the fact that it displaces water.
what about this stuff called After Run Oil, that we use in our Nitro RC Engines? this stuff actually ABSORBS the water.
Eldar.O.
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Location:
melbourne
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February 2005
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Re: moth balls
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Wed, 11 May 2005 06:41
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well i bought some moth balls from woolies! in a yellow container.... thing for cupboards like hanger style 3 in a pack n teres a total of 9 moth balls in each... n i bought 2 packs so i have 18 moth balls for 4bux... rpob bit pricey but ehhh all in the name of science 
1 gallon = ? fuel?
is it 1 gallon = 4 litre fuel?
i just have to buy some petrol mix it and get my motor running! lol stupid motor... ill get my old man to pick up some fule in his jerry n ill top mine up off his lol.... i want to try it on my go kart motor im making so i can blow it up or wat ever b4 i put into car...
ill make sure i document it lol
photos n video
might have it all done by week end
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Location:
Coffs Harbour, NSW
Registered:
November 2004
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Re: moth balls
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Wed, 11 May 2005 07:01
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1 gallon = 3.785 litres
thats US gallons, mind you, there's UK gallons too
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Location:
melbourne
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February 2005
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Wed, 11 May 2005 07:19
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so roughly 4 litre!
wikid
if it ratio 5:1 5=moth balls 1=4litres fuel
so roughly for 8litres worth u would need 10 moth balls?
thats alot... isnt it>?
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Location:
Rockhampton QLD
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July 2004
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Wed, 11 May 2005 07:46
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i doubt less would hurt
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NSW Engadine
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June 2003
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Re: moth balls
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Wed, 11 May 2005 07:51
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10 Moth balls for 8L fuel...
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Location:
melbourne
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February 2005
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Re: moth balls
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Wed, 11 May 2005 10:02
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| 79rollaboy wrote on Wed, 11 May 2005 17:51 |
10 Moth balls for 8L fuel...
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is that meant to b some kind of comment question? or ..
hopefully over w/e i can do it... although i got work n gota get motor running....... results should b soon!
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Location:
NSW Engadine
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June 2003
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Wed, 11 May 2005 10:05
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Comment...
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Location:
Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
Registered:
January 2003
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Re: moth balls
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Wed, 11 May 2005 11:09
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LOL oh dear
aren't many of the "octane boosters" mostly toluene anyway?
be careful with 'organic' compounds, ie ones based on benzene rings = not good for health...
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Location:
Newcastle
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April 2004
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Re: moth balls
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Wed, 11 May 2005 11:39
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| oldcorollas wrote on Wed, 11 May 2005 21:09 |
LOL oh dear
aren't many of the "octane boosters" mostly toluene anyway?
be careful with 'organic' compounds, ie ones based on benzene rings = not good for health...
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and by not good for health you mean carcenogenic. All coal tar derivatives are now classified as carcenogenic, and benzene is a big no no. However, ethanol is an effective solvent when hot.
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Location:
melbourne
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February 2005
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Re: moth balls
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Wed, 11 May 2005 12:31
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nah i read a thing on net earlier about it all... says isnt bad.... well not that they have found... apparently the epa has done test on it.... so i read on another forum... 
some interesting things going around on other forums... some guy did it to a deseil n got 30 mile per gallonover the original 15!
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Location:
Newcastle
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April 2004
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Re: moth balls
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Wed, 11 May 2005 12:35
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Ok, you believe "some website" and not the chemist.
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Location:
melbourne
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February 2005
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Re: moth balls
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Thu, 12 May 2005 06:05
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| Miss MR2 wrote on Wed, 11 May 2005 22:35 |
Ok, you believe "some website" and not the chemist.
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did i said i didnt believe.. but the question is do u believe????
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Location:
Brisbane
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January 2005
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Re: moth balls
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Thu, 12 May 2005 06:57
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dude tell me the packet of moth balls says NAPHTHALENE
remember you dont want that other shit and the woolies where i work ha sonly one type of NAPHTHALENE moth repellent and its in flake form in a white tub.
just make sure.
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Location:
melbourne
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February 2005
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Thu, 12 May 2005 09:47
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yes they do say "NAPHTHALENE" first thing i checked on it..... i didnt look at it to see wat kind of moth balls it was till i was walking to pay but all i knew at the time that it was NAPHTHALENE... so yahhh.... i hoping to do it tihs w/e maybe
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Location:
melbourne
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February 2005
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Re: moth balls
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Tue, 17 May 2005 06:12
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ITS BEEN DONE....!!!!!!!
ok my mate was scared about fumes outa motor.... tried with a dodgy lawn mower engine..... and it was full of water n we started it up n mate reckons that it gave out nasty fumes but i dont reckon it did... i was standing over it (we were down the side of the garage with it just to b saw keep fire contained if netihng happen etc.. ne way the exhaust going out straight into my face i could smell it was just burning nicely n mate freaked n ordered it to b turned off...
then tried it on my motor... didnt run for long only wanted to c if it would run n the motor was cold too....
it does rev out harder than would expect... seems to have more talk n get to rev range quicker... got crappy video from digi camrea.. but my dik head mate wasnt reving it the same so cant really tell...
ill get a decent one when i get it home here - only thing is i need some where to post
when i mixed them fuel -i had a 1.25l bottle of fanta empty n filled to about the litre mark and then stuck a moth ball in (since its like 5:1 ratio 5=moth balls - 1=gallons which equals 4litres) and had to shake the bottle and u could watch the ball shrink.... the fuel changes colour (goes from a purply colour to a dark shade)
once i get a decent vido ill post up... think ill borrow somebodies decent video camera to do the job - then will just have to edit n change file size
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Location:
melbourne
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February 2005
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Re: moth balls
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Tue, 17 May 2005 06:16
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the other thing y i didnt run motor long is that these little motors running full bore n u got ur head rite next to it is rather scary...
well this thing runs at 3500rpm well so says info on the net and i reckon i had it reving out at least 3 times that... was way up there... and i have noticed that theres no nasty backfire with this fuel aswell.. normally when u let go of the throttle at full bore it back fires really nasty... and shoots the baffles out of the exhaust....
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Location:
Melbourne
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January 2005
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Location:
Campbelltown
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November 2003
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Re: moth balls
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Tue, 17 May 2005 07:11
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meh i know someone that works at bankstown airport and runs his cars solely on avgas, it works a treat he has an old isuzu belet, calais turbo and a mirage and a couple race cars. he gets it for free and has the know how and has tuned the cars accordingly.
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Location:
Melbourne
Registered:
November 2003
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Re: moth balls
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Tue, 17 May 2005 07:52
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| Corona RT142 wrote on Tue, 17 May 2005 17:11 |
meh i know someone that works at bankstown airport and runs his cars solely on avgas, it works a treat he has an old isuzu belet, calais turbo and a mirage and a couple race cars. he gets it for free and has the know how and has tuned the cars accordingly.
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That... is so awsome...
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