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Location: Bundaberg, Qld.
Registered: May 2002
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dog communication
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Thu, 05 September 2002 13:46
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we have two dogs at home,
the other day when i was eating breaky (it was nice too) i seen the dog's walking up beside the house, one dog is big and a young one, the other is a little old one. the young one was a bit ahead of the old one, then it stopped turned it's head back, and waited till the old one caught up. now..... can dog's talk to each other somehow?
did the old dog say "hey, hang on there young-un, your walking a bit fast, wait for me"?? thats what it looked like to me.
so can dog's communicate with each other? and how?
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Location: Adelaide
Registered: July 2002
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Re: dog communication
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Thu, 05 September 2002 14:01
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i actually like this post because its something not car related for a change lol
anyways, i dont think dogs can communicate, but im sure they have some kind of 'sense' to work out this kind of things. actually, i guess its some kind of subtle communication. im also sure they can sense fear
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Location: Sydney
Registered: May 2002
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Re: dog communication
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Thu, 05 September 2002 14:10
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yeah i agree they sense it.
Have u ever noticed ...pretending to be pissed off at your dog is never as effective as actually being totally pissed off to your dog in demanding obedience
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Location: Bundaberg, Qld.
Registered: May 2002
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Re: dog communication
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Thu, 05 September 2002 14:14
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they seem to be able to sence ANGER as well
so their barking must be just useless expressions of wasted air?
when one dog bark's at another one, it seem's to take note. (especially when the dog barking is much bigger and meaner)
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I supported Toymods
Location: Adelaide
Registered: May 2002
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Re: dog communication
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Thu, 05 September 2002 14:57
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I think dog's just sense what is going on.
Somehow our dog know's what's going down. esp more so now that she is getting on.
The main thing I do know is that she can 'sense' whan I get home past 4 or 5am and she 'sense's ' that I want to be woken every 5min from 8-11:30 on a Sat and Sun morning whilst I try and sleep.
Then, when I get up hell pissed off, she sense's I will kill her, and scurries inside and shuts the F up...for 15 min till I fall asleep.
And my parent's open the back door again to let her out.
Dog's are funny like that.
Jaz
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Location: Western Sydney
Registered: May 2002
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Re: dog communication
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Thu, 05 September 2002 15:00
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They definately sense things... like fear.
When I was a little kid I was running around in the park and a guy was walking his german shepard. This was a big dog, well compared to me at the time. When I saw it I started to $h1t myself and the dog picked up on it and attacked me! Luckily the owner managed to stop it before it did any major damage. Just a couple cuts to the stomach.
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I supported Toymods
Location: Adelaide
Registered: May 2002
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Re: dog communication
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Thu, 05 September 2002 15:15
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Now there's a story why people hate dog's.
sorry to hear, Scares for life?
And why ALL dogs should be on leash's. I don't care if you can telepathically control your dog.........-> look tasty kid ........-> dog runs off.
Jaz
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I supported Toymods
Location: Berowra-Sydney
Registered: July 2002
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Re: dog communication
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Thu, 05 September 2002 22:12
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i've got a German Shepard, Labradore and a king charles spaniel and you would be surprise at how smart dogs actually are, there is 4 cars at this house two of which get parked in the garage and the other two outside so if we park outside we come into the house via the front door where if you park in the garage you come in via the garage door and the dogs hear a car and straight away know which one it is and go straight to the door where you usually come in, German Shepard is the smartest for sure, know how to open gates and everything even ones with latches but the spaniel???? well thats the dumbest little shit around!
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I supported Toymods
Location: Perth
Registered: May 2002
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Re: dog communication
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Thu, 05 September 2002 23:41
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Dogs definetly must be able to sleep. My girlfriend has a Dalmatian that is deaf. Even if it has been sleeping in the back yard, behind the tall fence with no gaps, it will wakeup all excited when you get home...weird.
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Location: Cabramatta, NSW
Registered: May 2002
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Re: dog communication
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Fri, 06 September 2002 00:25
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Dogs are pack animals, so yes they do sense things between each other.
Plus, they can smell our moods 'coz we release different pheremones depending upon our moods.
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Location: Melbourne
Registered: May 2002
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Re: dog communication
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Fri, 06 September 2002 01:10
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there was one time i had my dog at a friends farm. My friends dog got a bone and instead of eating it himself, he gave it to my dog.
a few weeks ago my dog spewed up on my bed and when dogs get sick they eat grass. the thing is though he put the grass over the bits of spew on my bed like he was trying to cover it up. I was quite proud of him for doing that. he also knows how to open sliding doors and can open the gate by jumping up on it and pulling it backwards with his legs.
so i think dogs are a lot smarter than people may think.
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Location: Coffs
Registered: May 2002
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Re:ferret communication
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Fri, 06 September 2002 01:49
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Yeah Dogs are smart and i believe they have some kind of communication system.
And so do ferrets heheheh
My sister and I have one each they are always getting up to mischtuf like opening the fridge and cardboard where there food is. Climbing to the top of the clothes draws to sleep.
Running off with food eg. whole tomotas, apples and anything they can get.
They love playing and chasing each other around the house.
Anyone else here have ferrets??
Brett
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I supported Toymods Banned User
Location: Brisbane
Registered: May 2002
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Re: dog communication
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Fri, 06 September 2002 03:17
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How the hell do ferrets open a fridge?
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Location: Coffs
Registered: May 2002
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Re: dog communication
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Fri, 06 September 2002 03:32
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They are smart oh yeah and strong.
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I supported Toymods Banned User
Location: Brisbane
Registered: May 2002
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Re: dog communication
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Fri, 06 September 2002 03:37
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Jezzz they'd wanna be strong!
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Location: Coffs
Registered: May 2002
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Re: dog communication
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Fri, 06 September 2002 03:45
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Their bite is hell strong.
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Location: GoldCoast/Brisbane
Registered: May 2002
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Re: dog communication
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Fri, 06 September 2002 07:03
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We had a big ass Rottie next door to us about 6 years ago. My chihuahua was about 2 at the time. Anyhoo my lil dog somehow escaped under the fence to the neighbours yard, while I was looking for it for bath time....it SENSED or at least heard the water running lol
I go to the veranda and hear this rottie howling and moaning scared shitless, then I see the little terror chasing this bahemouth of a dog, jumping on its back, biteing its ears, its neck, got thrown off, went back again, latched onto the rotties nuts a couple times etc etc!!
After he was happy that he had dished enough out to the rottie, he grabs this huge bone that was left for the rottie and procededs to carry it back under the fence to the front of his kennel!!
Funniest thing I have ever seen involving animals!!, except for this one time at the zoo where these chimps where hurling their own shit at people ....but thats a different story!!
Cheers,
Adrian!!
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I supported Toymods
Location: Berowra-Sydney
Registered: July 2002
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Re: dog communication
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Fri, 06 September 2002 07:37
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the question is who is smarter? dogs or humans? can you understand what your dog says? but can your dog understand what your saying? hmmmmmm
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Location: Sydney
Registered: May 2002
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Re: dog communication
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Fri, 06 September 2002 07:42
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one thing that ALL dogs do thats freekn stupid is whenever your playing around and u do an up and down chopping motion with your arm ...they ALWAYS get under it and deck themselves
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Location: GoldCoast/Brisbane
Registered: May 2002
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Re: dog communication
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Fri, 06 September 2002 08:15
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Hmmmm tough question, I thinks dogs are smarter than us!!
Then again......how smart can you be if you lick your own ballsack!
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Location: MACKAY
Registered: May 2002
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Re: dog communication
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Fri, 06 September 2002 11:14
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Dogs are very smart and can plan revenge .
I had a big shepherd x and he would only crap in one corner of the yard never near the house so anyway every time one of my mates would come to my house and bring his big rotti , the rotti would come into my shed and piss on everything , my dog hated him doing that , so one day I took my dog over to the rotti's place for a drive , When we got there we hopped out of the car and I started talking to my mate , The rotti came up to greet my dog , my dog looked at the rotti and then walked into my mates shed , sat right in the middle of the shed and dropped the biggest pile of crap and then stood up and casualy walked back to me sat down . If thats not revenge what is it !!!
Trevor
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Location: Sydney
Registered: May 2002
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Re: dog communication
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Fri, 06 September 2002 11:45
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ok i just wanna throw a spanner in the works, dogs are stupid, they allow themselves to be trained to do basic tasks, therefore on that not cats are smarter because they dont allow themselves to be trained.
*Dons flame suit*
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Location: Sydney
Registered: May 2002
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Re: dog communication
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Fri, 06 September 2002 12:02
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Bugman i think that has more to do with independance rather than intelligence
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Location: Newcastle
Registered: June 2002
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Re: dog communication
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Fri, 06 September 2002 12:17
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"still laughing"
TA22-3SGTE
SPEEDCORE
Those stories are great
keep em coming!!!!!
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Location: Sydney
Registered: June 2002
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Re: dog communication
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Fri, 06 September 2002 12:26
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Man, i bet your a cat person
i think cats are selfish. i'd like to see a cat defend its beloved owner, or guard its house, or take revenge (hahaha, teriffic story TA22-3SGTE).
fish are better than cats, they dont allow themselves to be trained basic tasks either.
ferrets sound hella cool
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I supported Toymods
Location: Adelaide
Registered: May 2002
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Re: dog communication
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Fri, 06 September 2002 13:46
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Dogs rule, cats sux.
Simple.
Seen a cat climb an 8 foot fence in about 1/8 sec ?
Our dog found a cat in the back yard. Never seen a cat move so kwik, ain't seen our dog move so kwik in a long time Whould have loved for Kosh to catch the bastard. Teach it for pissing on my parts in the backyard
Jaz
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Location: Cabramatta, NSW
Registered: May 2002
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Re: dog communication
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Fri, 06 September 2002 23:55
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Goldfish are better than cats 'coz, not only can't you teach them anything, they'd forget it all after 20 seconds anyway!
People who like cats are suckers for punishment. A cat just uses you for its own purposes. They're not pack animals like dogs so they don't understand concepts such as loyalty.
How many tales have you heard of cats saving their owners?
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Location: Newcastle
Registered: June 2002
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Re: dog communication
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Sat, 07 September 2002 07:05
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cats are toss.......
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Location: Colac, Victoria
Registered: May 2002
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Re: dog communication
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Sat, 07 September 2002 09:26
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IMHO cats are good for two things - Chew toys for Dogs - and Dim Sims
Dogs do communicate on a lot of levels - by voice , by look , by smell - you just have to know what to look for .. My sheppie is incredibly smart - and shes learned means to communicate just about any need she has to us , and her pack mates ( two rat dog jack russels ) .. they know EVERYTHING thats going on around them - and will " tell you " whats going on if asked ..
if one dogs down the yard - and the other two are in the house - you hear a woof - and all three investigate , they know when my mums coming home , or when my uncle arrives by the sounds of their cars , even before the cars are within a block they are at the door wagging their tails ..
whoever says dogs cant communicate - and dont know whats going on are wrong by a ong shot - they just havent been able to translate their perception into english
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Location: Bundaberg, Qld.
Registered: May 2002
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Re: dog communication
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Sat, 07 September 2002 12:39
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ok, back to the liitle old dog and the big young dog.......
the little old dog must be really smart in doggy communication, as it can somehow order the big young dog what to do....
we used to have a tuff stuffy (now sadly passed away) anyway, i am on a property, and here there are echidnas/porkypine thingys,
and the little old dog loves to try and hunt them to (much to our discust) kill them. the little old dog used to somehow tell the tuff staffy to dig for the echidna (as they borrow down when scared or attacked) the tuff staffy would always come back with his upper and lower lips red raw and feeling very sorry for himself, from trying to get through the dirt and mud (it must have been like sandpaper) and the little old dog would have not a mark on it, so how was the little old dog ordering the tuff staffy to do all the work??
and now the other day, the big young dog has come back with it's upper and lower lips red raw and feeling very sorry for herself, so the smart (and lazy) little old dog has now trained the big young dog to do all the work.......!!??
go figure.......
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Registered: May 2002
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Re: dog communication
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Tue, 10 September 2002 10:31
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I've had a couple of smart dogs, one was a golden retriever/collie thing, we could never keep it in the yard, it once jumped an 8-foot chain-link fence with barbed-wire at the top (this was at a vets) stuffed if I know how she did it. She would always know what was going on. you could see it in her face. IN 13 years the local dog catcher couldn't lay a finger on her. Lame-ass. Her only weakness was cars, she loved driving in cars. You open the door and she's completely torn, she knows that she will be caught in the car but want's to go for a drive sooooo bad!!
My current dog (a labrador/staffy cross) once had a little spider that had a pull-string spider that vibrated when you pulled the string. it was on the floor once and we came into the room to find her playing with it. she'd pull the string and then let it go to watch it vibrate then she'd grab it in her paws again and pull the string with her teeth...funny sight..
Tim
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I supported Toymods
Location: Berowra-Sydney
Registered: July 2002
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Re: dog communication
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Tue, 10 September 2002 10:39
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at my brothers 18th we got a striper and whilst she was on her knees over the top of my brother someone let go of the German Shepard and he gave her a nice big lick right between the legs she sure freaked out and turned around straight away then once she saw it was the dog she just continued along with the show, dog has been classed as a legend ever since
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Re: dog communication
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Tue, 10 September 2002 12:19
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my grandma's dog goes crazy barking and yapping BEFORE the phone rings, but (get this), only when my mum's on the other end....
<cue twilight zone music>
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I supported Toymods
Location: Sydney
Registered: May 2002
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Re: dog communication
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Tue, 10 September 2002 12:25
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thats all some crazy dog stories! its amazing what these creatures can do
we had one of those small fluffy house dogs before.. it wasnt really trained.. just to sit but it knew when she wanted togo the loo. she would come upto you.. sit down, soon as you stand up she would run to the back door and wait for you to open it. Leave it open, and she'll come back in later scratching your foot telling you to close the door.
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Toymods Board Member
Location: Sydney
Registered: September 2002
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Re: dog communication
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Tue, 10 September 2002 21:59
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I can safely say that my dog is pretty stupid.. but is pretty loyal.. She knows the basics.. Sit, stay . normal stuff..BUT!!
..,. She once ran into my room and ate a tube of superglue and glued her mouth shut. . She also drunk the coolant as I emptied out of my radiator... She got a golf ball stuck in the back of her jaw and couldn't shut her mouth,, kinda funny watching her try and pick up her food with her tongue..
She tried to chase a taxi... and then got hit by it.. She head butted the wall once trying to run to me.. now she has a patch on the top of her head where hair doesn't grow... Saying that.. I still love her to death!!!!
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Location: Tassie
Registered: October 2003
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Re: dog communication
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Wed, 04 May 2005 05:47
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I was taking pics of my dog and i thought "i wonder what toymodders dog r like" so i searched and found this.
The dog in the pic is really smart sometimes. but a dumbass the rest of the time.
for instance today i was kicking her ball and the ball hit a tree and bounced back......................so did she but acted like nothing happened no conssucion or anything.
I can chuck logs not sticks or branches log about as round as a tyre in the creek and she will pull it out like it's a twig.
But back on the topic of communication i've seen my dogs do it by just moving their ears it's scary.
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Location: Hobart, Tasmania
Registered: January 2005
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Re: dog communication
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Wed, 04 May 2005 06:04
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Mookie your dog is tough!!! Whats her name?
Looks like a Tyson...
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Location: Tassie
Registered: October 2003
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Re: dog communication
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Wed, 04 May 2005 06:09
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Her name is ally as in ally mcbeal (i'm sure you can see the irony)
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Location: Bathurst
Registered: September 2004
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Re: dog communication
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Wed, 04 May 2005 06:23
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So Mookie,
Did Ally do that to your PC?
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Location: Tassie
Registered: October 2003
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Re: dog communication
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Wed, 04 May 2005 06:43
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Haha no my dad did that he was trying install a DVD player.
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Location: south east - melbourne
Registered: March 2004
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Re: dog communication
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Wed, 04 May 2005 06:55
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hmmm got a lot of dog stories to tell from fights to how they understand when ur sick , plus when shit goes wrong , plus when u tryign to hide medicine in the food ,
owning 4 dogs 3 german sheperds and a pomeranian , ive got plenty to tell but im not going to as it willo take ages when i finish
but yueah i sure miss all of em as they were all in india and in now in australia ,
when i left india they knw exactly what was happening and would just stare at me as if don’t leave us here and go away
the best part is when they give birth the pups are so cute , couple of weeks later shit goes missing and most prob will be found in the kennel or in thwe garden nearby
sometimes the pups even carry shit twice the size of them , have u ever watched them do it , their head high in the air so the stuff doesn’t drag on the ground and run into shit cause they cant see where they going anyway
3 of them are dead now and no idea what happened to one of em which was given away to a distant friend
anyway dogs are the best
cheers
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Location: Hobart, Tasmania
Registered: January 2005
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Re: dog communication
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Wed, 04 May 2005 06:56
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Ally as in Ally McBeal is a dog?
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Location: NSW Engadine
Registered: June 2003
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Re: dog communication
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Wed, 04 May 2005 07:09
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My dog is a psyco to certain people... If your resonably tall, have darkish hair... and a deepish voice... my dog will attack you...
Its bitten my neighbour, 3 mates, a mates dad... But otherwise its a completely normal dog...
Weird... maybe it can sense theyre fear... or maybe it thinks theyre trying to take over his territory...
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Location: NSW Engadine
Registered: June 2003
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Re: dog communication
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Wed, 04 May 2005 07:11
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My dogs communicate to me, they dont shut up til i feed them... and it works...
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Location: Bayside Melbourne.
Registered: May 2003
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Re: dog communication
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Wed, 04 May 2005 07:24
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manipulate wrote on Fri, 06 September 2002 17:42 | one thing that ALL dogs do thats freekn stupid is whenever your playing around and u do an up and down chopping motion with your arm ...they ALWAYS get under it and deck themselves
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LOL - my dog is pretty smart but yes I reckon if i moved my arm up and down long enough she would eventually come close enough and get decked.
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Location: Tassie
Registered: October 2003
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Re: dog communication
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Wed, 04 May 2005 08:08
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indian wrote on Wed, 04 May 2005 16:55 |
hmmm got a lot of dog stories to tell from fights to how they understand when ur sick , plus when shit goes wrong , plus when u tryign to hide medicine in the food ,
owning 4 dogs 3 german sheperds and a pomeranian , ive got plenty to tell but im not going to as it willo take ages when i finish
but yueah i sure miss all of em as they were all in india and in now in australia ,
when i left india they knw exactly what was happening and would just stare at me as if don’t leave us here and go away
the best part is when they give birth the pups are so cute , couple of weeks later shit goes missing and most prob will be found in the kennel or in thwe garden nearby
sometimes the pups even carry shit twice the size of them , have u ever watched them do it , their head high in the air so the stuff doesn’t drag on the ground and run into shit cause they cant see where they going anyway
3 of them are dead now and no idea what happened to one of em which was given away to a distant friend
anyway dogs are the best
cheers
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I love curry !
I'm sri lankan and i used to work in a curry resturant, people would talk to me in hindi and expect me to understand .
Dogs are like ants with their power/size ratio
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Location: Melbourne, Australia
Registered: March 2005
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Re: dog communication
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Wed, 04 May 2005 12:18
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Nark wrote on Sat, 07 September 2002 09:55 | Goldfish are better than cats 'coz, not only can't you teach them anything, they'd forget it all after 20 seconds anyway!
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This is a conception that is comprehensively untrue. When I buy new fish (Ryukins and Demekins - species of goldfish) it takes them time to adapt to new feeding methods. I feed them brine shrimp (which is suspended in the water) and sinking pellets (which fall to bottom). When I introduce a new fish, it's immediately clear from their feeding behaviour what they've been previously accustomed to receiving. Over time, fish which for instance have no competency feeding on suspended food will learn to become more successful. Likewise, fish who are accustomed to suspended or surface-borne foods will take time to learn to fossick the substrate properly.
Clearly the fish exhibit learning behaviour, as their feeding behaviour becomes more proficcient over time.
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Location: Sydney
Registered: June 2002
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Re: dog communication
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Wed, 04 May 2005 13:48
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i dont know if this has been covered but dogs can be trained into distinguishing races.
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Location: Bayside Melbourne.
Registered: May 2003
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Re: dog communication
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Wed, 04 May 2005 14:00
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strober wrote on Wed, 04 May 2005 23:48 | i dont know if this has been covered but dogs can be trained into distinguishing races.
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What, motorsport or horse races?
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Location: Tassie
Registered: October 2003
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Location: Sydney
Registered: June 2002
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Re: dog communication
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Thu, 05 May 2005 10:59
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SIMDOG wrote on Thu, 05 May 2005 00:00 |
strober wrote on Wed, 04 May 2005 23:48 | i dont know if this has been covered but dogs can be trained into distinguishing races.
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What, motorsport or horse races?
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hahahahha... dog races of course, chasing mechanical bunnies.
Dogs can be raised as racists and have prejudices against people of varying appearances.
I was told a family unknowingly raised a racist rottweiler and had to surrender it after an incident.
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Location: Sydney
Registered: April 2004
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Re: dog communication
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Thu, 05 May 2005 11:26
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I have some crazy ass random thoughts every now and then, try this one on for size;
we believe every animal is inferior because they cant speak. What if infact we're the inferior ones because we still communicate through sound.. and animals all communicate on a level beyond anything we can pickup(telepathy?)... and the various vocal animal sounds animals make are just attempts at an inferior way of communicating
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Location: Sydney
Registered: April 2004
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Re: dog communication
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Fri, 06 May 2005 10:06
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September_Squall wrote on Wed, 04 May 2005 22:18 |
Nark wrote on Sat, 07 September 2002 09:55 | Goldfish are better than cats 'coz, not only can't you teach them anything, they'd forget it all after 20 seconds anyway!
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This is a conception that is comprehensively untrue. When I buy new fish (Ryukins and Demekins - species of goldfish) it takes them time to adapt to new feeding methods. I feed them brine shrimp (which is suspended in the water) and sinking pellets (which fall to bottom). When I introduce a new fish, it's immediately clear from their feeding behaviour what they've been previously accustomed to receiving. Over time, fish which for instance have no competency feeding on suspended food will learn to become more successful. Likewise, fish who are accustomed to suspended or surface-borne foods will take time to learn to fossick the substrate properly.
Clearly the fish exhibit learning behaviour, as their feeding behaviour becomes more proficcient over time.
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yeah, proved on Mythbusters, goldfish do have a memory and can be trained, they taught the goldfish to relate food with bright colors and trained them to get through a maze to get their food.
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Location: Melbourne, Australia
Registered: March 2005
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Re: dog communication
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Fri, 06 May 2005 15:39
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ke35 - 4AGZE wrote on Fri, 06 May 2005 20:06 |
September_Squall wrote on Wed, 04 May 2005 22:18 |
Nark wrote on Sat, 07 September 2002 09:55 | Goldfish are better than cats 'coz, not only can't you teach them anything, they'd forget it all after 20 seconds anyway!
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This is a conception that is comprehensively untrue. When I buy new fish (Ryukins and Demekins - species of goldfish) it takes them time to adapt to new feeding methods. I feed them brine shrimp (which is suspended in the water) and sinking pellets (which fall to bottom). When I introduce a new fish, it's immediately clear from their feeding behaviour what they've been previously accustomed to receiving. Over time, fish which for instance have no competency feeding on suspended food will learn to become more successful. Likewise, fish who are accustomed to suspended or surface-borne foods will take time to learn to fossick the substrate properly.
Clearly the fish exhibit learning behaviour, as their feeding behaviour becomes more proficcient over time.
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yeah, proved on Mythbusters, goldfish do have a memory and can be trained, they taught the goldfish to relate food with bright colors and trained them to get through a maze to get their food.
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I don't think they have a conscious 'memory' of explicit events, rahter they can simply be trained in a stimulus-response style to react instinctively to certain environmental cues.
But yes, they learn.
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Location: MELBOURNE
Registered: December 2004
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Location: Tassie
Registered: October 2003
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Re: dog communication
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Sat, 07 May 2005 04:23
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Yeah i know what u mean.
I know a guy who breeds american pitbulls.
He can make them kill with just one word but those dogs are great pets they wouldn't hurt anybody unless instructed.
Ppl see my staffy and get worried but little do they know they were only bred as fighting dogs not attacking dogs.
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Location: MELBOURNE
Registered: December 2004
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Re: dog communication
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Sat, 07 May 2005 13:01
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Yeah I know, thankfully my dog is insanely happy so people don't get worried. Yeah they are great dogs if trained properly like any of the 'guard dog' breeds i.e. Doberman, Rottweiler etc. etc. They just have to be trained well! Poor dogs that are forced to fight sot heir owners can make some money, thats shocking.
Thanks
Troy
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Location: Victoria, Melbourne
Registered: April 2005
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Re: dog communication
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Sat, 07 May 2005 13:17
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:'(
reminds me of my ex dog, she was the best dog man... had a few kilowatt's at her legs *Sobs* this adorable dog could keep up to my rav4 (3s-fe) and thats got like what, 70kilowatts or someshit?
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Location: Sydney
Registered: June 2002
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Re: dog communication
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Sat, 07 May 2005 14:48
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verbatim210 wrote on Sat, 07 May 2005 23:17 | :'(
reminds me of my ex dog, she was the best dog man... had a few kilowatt's at her legs *Sobs* this adorable dog could keep up to my rav4 (3s-fe) and thats got like what, 70kilowatts or someshit?
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then that would be power/weight ratio
does anyone know what the p/w ratio is for a human?
i heard the y outlawed pit bulls in NSW. what happens if you already have one? do you have to give it up to RSPCA or something?
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Location: Tassie
Registered: October 2003
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Re: dog communication
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Sun, 08 May 2005 01:20
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That is so wrong
it's stereotyping to the max !
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