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Big T's AE86 Trueno: Turbo Conversion (edit: pics up)
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Hey all. Got a little bored so i decided to write about my conversion. For those that don't know, i bought "ILLUZN's" Trueno Coupe back in September with the plan to take it track drifting. However, work kinda bitched me hard and i couldn't make the time to see it through. The car is still running but out of rego at the moment. The car mods list is as follows:
ENGINE:
factory 4AGE
Apexi pod Filter
RS*r extractors, front pipe and full exhaust into cannon muffler
TRD spark leads
Cusco Brake Booster Stopper.
HANDLING:
Cusco Strut Brace
Cusco Coilovers with Camber Tops front
TRD 8way adjustable Rear shocks with lowered springs (unknown)
15x6.5 (+18 offset) Black Racing Rims
DRIVE TRAIN:
TRD 2 way LSD
heavy Duty clutch (unknown)
BRAKES:
factory vented front with EBC brake pads
Rear Discs with bendix pads
INTERIOR:
Air Con
Bride Zeta Drivers Seat
Bride Brix Passenger Seat
Nardi Steering Wheel
TRD leather gear knob
Tinted Windows
Willans 4 point harness Drivers side (Passenger not fitted)
EXTRAS:
Viper Alarm.
Central locking
CD player including front 4" alpine 3way in factory spots, Carozerra (pioneer) 6" 3 way rear speakers
Pics of the car:
While browsing the forums and researching the techs, i came across a turbo kit i just couldn't resist bidding on. And thanks to "THE WITZL" and PMP-80Y's turbo, the track drifting will have to wait for the 4agTe conversion.
The plan for the turbo conversion (the stuff in bold are the things i already have)
Redtop Smallport bottom end
GZE pistons 8.9:1 comp ratio
Genuine Toyota piston rings
Bigport Head
Rebuild engine with ACL Bearings
ARP Head Studs
ARP Conrod Bolts
ARP Flywheel Bolts
Fidanza Adjustable Cam Gears
TRD 272 degree, 7.5mm lift Camshafts
TRD Valve Springs
HKS 1.6mm Head Gasket
Autronic SM4
255L/h Walbro Internal Fuel Pump
AE92 Oil Cooler Setup
RB25DET BB turbo on homemade manifold
3" dump pipe
Aristo 2JZGTE intercooler
Custom 3" exhaust
New front brake setup; RX7 Series 6 4 pots on MASSIVE disks.
New rear brake setup; Suggestions please!!! Currently have JDM solid disks.
w55 box on dellow bellhousing
215mm 4age flywheel with custom 4 puck clutch
7MGTE injectors
The injectors:
That's the plan for the moment but working 7 days a week doesn't help the progress much. I'm getting my cousin who's a mechanic at Subaru to help me out. Hopefully they won't notice the extra Toyota engine sitting in their workshop!!  Anyways, that's all for now. I'll update as I go, which will probably be extremely slowly  If anyone has any suggestions or things to add, by all means do so. Thanks for reading guys!
Eddie.
[Updated on: Sun, 04 September 2005 13:32]
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Re: Big T's Turbo Trueno Conversion
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Sun, 01 May 2005 22:37
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Can't wait to see it dude, sounds like it will be awesome when finished 
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Re: Big T's Turbo AE86 Trueno Conversion
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Wed, 04 May 2005 01:25
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sounds good, i usually cringe seeing forced induction in ae86s (just my initial d fanboy attitude  ) but that sounds awesome, keep us up to date with it we can't wait 
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Re: Big T's Turbo AE86 Trueno Conversion
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Wed, 04 May 2005 07:59
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ooooh so ur the one who bought dens car. he took me for a ride in that before he sold it. such a sweet ride, genuine jap spec trueno too. good luck with the turbo conversion, should be a beast.
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Re: Big T's Turbo AE86 Trueno Conversion
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Wed, 04 May 2005 09:50
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how much psi you plan on running? also do you know what the spring rates were on your car when you bought it, felt like a perfect suspension setup for street, tight but not too tight. 272 degree cams + forced induction....mmmmm sounds tasty.
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Re: Big T's Turbo AE86 Trueno Conversion
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Wed, 04 May 2005 13:20
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Nice Eddie, i still haven't seen you around even tho you are like in the next suburb from me 
haha, i just completed my 4agte conversion, WELL worth it, and damn good power upgrade.
any questions/pics ask me
good luck with the build, love to see it in person one day!
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Re: Big T's Turbo AE86 Trueno Conversion
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Wed, 04 May 2005 14:37
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Don't worry Des, you'll see it soon enough! Haven't been driving the Trueno around... the rego ran out in Feb. What kind of gear you running in your car Des?
I looked at your thread but couldn't find the specs. How much did it cost you all up? Pm it if you like or if you don't want to say that's cool. What ecu are you using to run it?
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Thu, 05 May 2005 08:25
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I know this is getting slightly off topic, but i'm in the next suburb to you Des (in Cherrybrook). My friend lives kinda near you and i always drive via your house (my friend somehow knows which house you live in - no idea how!) to see if your car is ever sitting in the driveway (it never has been).
Go the hills!!
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Re: Big T's Turbo AE86 Trueno Conversion
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Thu, 05 May 2005 09:15
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Hey man sounds good, kinda like what im doing. Same cams anyway...
Now if ya need any help getting autronic stuff, i should be able to give you a competetive price on one. My mate works for them.
Let me know what you need and il see if i can help you!
Good luck with it all.
Jezza
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Re: Big T's Turbo AE86 Trueno Conversion
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Thu, 05 May 2005 11:55
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| Doylie wrote on Thu, 05 May 2005 18:25 |
I know this is getting slightly off topic, but i'm in the next suburb to you Des (in Cherrybrook). My friend lives kinda near you and i always drive via your house (my friend somehow knows which house you live in - no idea how!) to see if your car is ever sitting in the driveway (it never has been).
Go the hills!!
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oooooo, i have a stalker!!! The car's always parked in the garage. I leave my other car outside. The Trueno gets preferencial treatment Who's your mate? Do i know him?
Eddie.
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Thu, 05 May 2005 12:09
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And thanks for the offer Jezza. I'll be in contact when i look at buying the ecu. Still have a few things to work out as to whether i'll be running a multi-coil or wasted spark setup.
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Re: Big T's Turbo AE86 Trueno Conversion
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Thu, 05 May 2005 12:32
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| Big T wrote on Thu, 05 May 2005 21:55 |
| Doylie wrote on Thu, 05 May 2005 18:25 |
I know this is getting slightly off topic, but i'm in the next suburb to you Des (in Cherrybrook). My friend lives kinda near you and i always drive via your house (my friend somehow knows which house you live in - no idea how!) to see if your car is ever sitting in the driveway (it never has been).
Go the hills!!
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oooooo, i have a stalker!!! The car's always parked in the garage. I leave my other car outside. The Trueno gets preferencial treatment Who's your mate? Do i know him?
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I think he was talking about my house Eddie 
 perhaps you got the wrong house
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Thu, 05 May 2005 12:45
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Yeah i just re-read the post and got it. 12h work shifts don't do good things to the thinking thingy. Well, just to freak you out Des..... I SEE JOOO!!!!!
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Fri, 06 May 2005 01:42
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Hahaha sorry it sounds so freaky of me to say that guys. I think my mate knows one of your mates or something Des? Anyway, hopefully in about 6 months there will be one more done up sprinter going around in the Hills!
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Re: Big T's Turbo AE86 Trueno Conversion (edit: now with pics!)
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Mon, 16 May 2005 11:20
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I just recieved these in the mail.
Mmmmm shiny.
Yeah i know... its a bit of a wank
Hopefully be hooking this up to a boost selector switch allowing high or low boost settings.
And lastly, a new timing belt. Could have just re-used the old one with the non-interference head and all but this was only $40.
I'll be picking up the engine tommorrow so hopefully things will get started soon!
Eddie.
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Re: Big T's Turbo AE86 Trueno Conversion (edit: pics up)
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Tue, 17 May 2005 05:46
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Update!
Picked up the engine today and dropped it off at my cousins work. We managed to strip it down to the block in about an hour or so. Just need to get the crank/pistons out and see what size bearings i'll need to order.
Also ordered my GZE pistons and rings from Penrith Toyota. $560 for the lot They should be here in 3 weeks. Hopefully by that time we'll have the crank out and i'll get the flywheel off the trueno to have it all balanced up.
Sorry there's no pics but forgot to take the digicam with me when i went for the engine.
Eddie.
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Re: Big T's Turbo AE86 Trueno Conversion (edit: pics up)
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Tue, 17 May 2005 09:46
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I sense a turbo ae86 meeting wen mine is done too.
Go the hills boys!! Im a native of baulko
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Re: Big T's Turbo AE86 Trueno Conversion (edit: pics up)
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Wed, 18 May 2005 06:18
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^ i'm up for that
good stuff Eddie, coming along nicely, should work well, you seemed to have done your homework 
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Re: Big T's Turbo AE86 Trueno Conversion (edit: pics up)
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Wed, 18 May 2005 06:30
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WOW!!!
well done!!!
this has been a pretty quick build!!
nice car!!! i like it
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Tue, 31 May 2005 09:22
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Picked up a few goodies today
GZE Pistons + rings
HKS 1.6mm Metal Head Gasket
AND TRD radiator and Oil filler caps
Unfortunately, I won't have any time to get ripping the head off my current engine due to other commitments So I've decided to put the conversion on hold for a little bit until things smooth out. I should get round to getting the box/engine out in around a month or 2.
Besides, I'll need the time to save up for the Autronic so it doesn't work out too bad. Until the next update then!
Eddie.
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Re: Big T's Turbo AE86 Trueno Conversion (edit: pics up)
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Tue, 31 May 2005 10:51
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nice parts! should make for a bulletproof engine!
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Re: Big T's Turbo AE86 Trueno Conversion (edit: pics up)
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Tue, 31 May 2005 11:41
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can sell u some numbers
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Re: Big T's Turbo AE86 Trueno Conversion (edit: pics up)
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Tue, 31 May 2005 11:50
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Hush potato man! Just the cooler will be fine. You keep those numbers
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Re: Big T's Turbo AE86 Trueno Conversion (edit: pics up)
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Tue, 31 May 2005 11:53
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cooler by monday
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Re: Big T's Turbo AE86 Trueno Conversion (edit: pics up)
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Wed, 22 June 2005 13:48
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Update!!
Well I've gathered some more parts, namely:
2 core radiator
350z brake master/booster
Willwood brake bias adjuster
Bare bigport head (to save me taking my engine out)
I bought this stuff from IRA11Y. I would've bought some more from him but i ran outta cash But don't worry... i'm going back for another run
I've also now got: Water/oil temp, oil pressure, boost gauges and a 3.75" tacho with shift light.
Picked up my ARP Headstuds and rod bolts too. Still waiting on the flywheel bolts though.
I've also ordered a pair of RX7 series 6 calipers  meaning i'll be fitting a MASSIVE 30mm thick disk in there. Haven't yet decided on the diametre...i'll wait till i get some new wheels so i can make sure they'll fit.
I'll take some pics when i get the chance but i can't be farked right now.
On other notes, after talking with my engine builder, I've decided NOT to use the TRD bearings as it's ALOT of hassle trying to get the proper clearances and tolerances. I'll be going with ACL bearings instead.
I have decided to port/polish the head and valve grind and polish/shot peen/grind the rods. I've also decided on going for a slight overbore with the block.
The block/crank/rods/head are currently being chemically cleaned up at the workshop.
Hopefully i'll be getting a w58 box combo soon so i can get the flywheel and balance up the engine internals.
That's about it for now. It all seems to be coming along a bit quicker than i expected but i'm not complaining although my wallet seems to be wailing a bit
Eddie.
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Re: Big T's AE86 Trueno: Turbo Conversion (edit: pics up)
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Fri, 24 June 2005 08:59
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The Bottom pic...
Are they head studs?
Jezza
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Re: Big T's AE86 Trueno: Turbo Conversion (edit: pics up)
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Fri, 24 June 2005 09:01
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Yes indeed they are. They're not bloody cheap either!
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Re: Big T's AE86 Trueno: Turbo Conversion (edit: pics up)
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Fri, 24 June 2005 09:03
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Ok so what is the thread pitch and length?
Are these designed for a smallport head or big port?
Jezza
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Fri, 24 June 2005 09:10
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As far as i know, the big/smallport block threads are identical. Either way, ARP only make ONE 4age head stud kit so that's the one i got. I don't know the thread pitch but i'll measure you up the thread lengths as soon as i finish eating
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Fri, 24 June 2005 09:18
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Nice one mate!
Thanks fo ryour help.
A part # will be nice so i can also look the details of them up and go from there.
Reason I ask is I want to get some that are longer and fit a spacer up in the head so i can get even more clamp force more evenly.
Thanks so far Eddie
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Fri, 24 June 2005 09:53
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The part number's: 2034203. I got mine from Rocket Industries.
Measurements:
The smaller studs: Overall length: 108mm
Shorter thread: 21mm
Longer thread: 24mm
The longer studs: Overall length: 127mm
Shorter thread: 21mm
Longer thread: 24mm.
Hope it helps you out.
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Sat, 25 June 2005 00:06
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No worries,
Thanks muchly for that,
Jezza
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Re: Big T's AE86 Trueno: Turbo Conversion (edit: pics up)
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Sat, 25 June 2005 07:18
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i dont usually like those coupe versions but this one i kind of like.
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Re: Big T's AE86 Trueno: Turbo Conversion (edit: pics up)
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Fri, 01 July 2005 00:45
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more pix goddamnit!
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Re: Big T's AE86 Trueno: Turbo Conversion (edit: pics up)
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Fri, 01 July 2005 08:44
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| hachi-man wrote on Fri, 01 July 2005 10:45 |
more pix goddamnit!
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All in good time
Been having a VERY busy last couple weeks with the engine being rebuilt, gearboxes being purchased, clutches being ordered, pistons being reordered and ontop of that trying to finish off the AE71 i have. All this with 6 days/60h of work as well  Mmmmmm, fun.
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Re: Big T's AE86 Trueno: Turbo Conversion (edit: pics up)
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Fri, 01 July 2005 10:34
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| Big T wrote on Fri, 01 July 2005 18:44 |
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more pix goddamnit!
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All in good time
Been having a VERY busy last couple weeks with the engine being rebuilt, gearboxes being purchased, clutches being ordered, pistons being reordered and ontop of that trying to finish off the AE71 i have. All this with 6 days/60h of work as well Mmmmmm, fun.
Eddie.
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Re: Big T's AE86 Trueno: Turbo Conversion (edit: pics up)
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Fri, 01 July 2005 11:19
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| SEXY 16 wrote on Fri, 01 July 2005 20:34 |
| Big T wrote on Fri, 01 July 2005 18:44 |
| hachi-man wrote on Fri, 01 July 2005 10:45 |
more pix goddamnit!
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All in good time
Been having a VERY busy last couple weeks with the engine being rebuilt, gearboxes being purchased, clutches being ordered, pistons being reordered and ontop of that trying to finish off the AE71 i have. All this with 6 days/60h of work as well Mmmmmm, fun.
Eddie.
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winging pommy
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Oh and having to deal with coke dealing irishmen in my spare time too!!!
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Re: Big T's AE86 Trueno: Turbo Conversion (edit: pics up)
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Sat, 02 July 2005 09:52
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I picked these up today
Mmmmm. 4 puck, brass button sprung centre clutch disk with a 1550lbs rated pressure plate to suit 212mm 4age flywheel mated to a w5* box.
I was originally planning on getting a 5 puck but the 4 puck was available off the shelf from Exedy and was a bit cheaper. If anyone's planning the clutch upgrade as well, i found that calling Exedy directly is the best way to get it done. They'll get you part numbers then refer you to a local distributor.
NPC in qld are also a good option. They were willing to make me a custom 5 puck button disk with a custom 1700lbs pressure plate and have it ready for me by Tuesday. The price was slightly dearer but it would've been all custom made. That and i actually needed the pressure plate ON Tues early in the morning so i couldn't afford to wait for the post. I'll probably order my next clutch off them when i have the luxury of time.
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Sat, 02 July 2005 12:27
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Let us know how you go with that clutch, since its such a popular topic for 4AGTE's
I've got the same exedy pressure & clutch plate package, but for the slightly smaller 200mm flywheel, and it slips like a bitch on hard gearchanges  I hope you have better luck. It grabbed really hard for the first 1000km, then I don't know what happened.
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Sat, 02 July 2005 13:07
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Thanks mate. I'll let you know how the clutch is once it's all together. I've realised I'm gonna have soooo much stuff to run in with this car from scratch.
I'll need to run in the new brakes, new pistons, new cams, new clutch, new ecu. So i'll have to keep flipping the revs to bed the rings but not too high for the sake of the cams while braking lightly to wear in the pads and bed in the clutch on the gear changes!!! At least the autronic has the autotune feature so i shouldn't have to worry too much about that.
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Re: Big T's AE86 Trueno: Turbo Conversion (edit: pics up)
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Wed, 06 July 2005 11:45
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Let us know how you go with that clutch, since its such a popular topic for 4AGTE's
I've got the same exedy pressure & clutch plate package, but for the slightly smaller 200mm flywheel, and it slips like a bitch on hard gearchanges I hope you have better luck. It grabbed really hard for the first 1000km, then I don't know what happened.
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That clutch setup that Eddie has ordered is exactly the same setup as what I have just acquired for my 4agte, except that I'm running the slightly bigger 230mm 4agze flywheel, so the clutch is to suit that. I'm not expecting my clutch to fail once it's in, it's a beefy setup, and I think the 4agte will treat it just fine. The guy I got my clutch off has been in the industry for more than 30 years, he knows his stuff so well it's not funny, so yeah I trust him when he says that it will hold up fine lol.
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Thu, 07 July 2005 13:10
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There's a pretty big difference between a 200 and a 230mm disk though... it's a full 15% greater surface area to grip to.
I went for the compromise... didn't want to grind out the dellow bellhousing too far but wanted the maximum disk size i could get. Then i realised i had a 212 flywheel attached to the redtop i bought so that became the obvious choice.
Eddie.
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Re: Big T's AE86 Trueno: Turbo Conversion (edit: pics up)
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Fri, 15 July 2005 13:57
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WAHHHH
what a lucky find! AWESOME!
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Fri, 15 July 2005 14:04
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Yeah i know! I couldn't believe it when i noticed it!
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Mon, 18 July 2005 09:11
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Since i had the day off i decided to get at that headlight and fix it up properly.
AHHHH my eye!!!
As you can see, the rust was actually pretty bad on the light.
Here's a close up of the worst bit. It's gone all the way through
These 3 dudes helped out heaps with the repairs.
ALOT of the little bolts and screws were rusted pretty badly. Lucky i'd gone to pickies earlier and replaced them with relatively new ones.
After a fresh coat of paint, she was good to go.
I also decided to sand/paint the inside of the top light cover as there was the tiniest bit of surface rust on the edges. I already had everything diassembled so why the hell not?
Now all that needs to be done is re-wiring that blown plug. I'll have to borrow a soldering iron off a mate before i can get started on that one yet.
Eddie.
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Well, i figured it was time for an update. There won't be any pics in this one though since my camera decided to shit itself and i haven't got it back from repairs yet 
The engine is basically complete. There was an extremely frustrating moment when we were just about to torque the head to the block. I had a set of ARP headstuds for the job and when we got round to lubing them up and putting the nuts on... we found that one of the nuts had no thread!! So i had to wait a week before i could head into rocket to get a swap.
Other than that, it's all good. Just need to whack on stuff like the water pump and manifolds and it'll be ready.
I should also be getting a Davies Craig 14" thermo fan in the mail soonish and also my MASSIVE 32mm thick brake rotors. From there, it'll be out with the current engine, removing the struts to take to the brake place and taking measurements for the new w55 and tailshaft.
Another thing i've found is that the IC piping i got from teh Witzl is actually going to interfere with the pop-up light motors so i'm looking at an entirely new IC setup. I'm not sure whether to go a dodgy and get one of those ebay coolers for $200 or whether to get a brand name one. Still undecided as of yet.
Eddie.
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