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4AGE------> 4AGZE???
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Sun, 08 May 2005 12:11
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im new to the car game (on my P's) and recently bought a AE82 Twin cam 16 and am wanting to eventually, hopefully turn it into a pretty quick corolla. it has a few small mods at the moment, genie headers, k&n air filter and is going in for a new exhaust system (2.5inch to the cat, and 3 inch cat-back to 3 inch tip). in the long run i was wanting to give it some significant performance mods, so here is where my quetion lies...
Firstly with the exhaust system does anyone think what i want to have done to it (2.5inch to the cat, and 3 inch cat-back to 3 inch tip) appear to have any problems (back pressure etc?).
Secondly ive been looking at every single site with the words "4AGZE", "corolla" and "Turbo" and have not found anything relevant to what my question is so hopefully one or some of you can help me out. I want to know if it is possible to supercharge my current motor (4AGE) or do i need to get a whole new 4AGZE engine if i want it to be charged? and if its possible what i need to do it (obviously the supercharger itself  but anything else that goes with it...)
Or alternatively turbocharging it... i have seen and read a few articles about people doing this mod and having it be pretty successful. Although i think most have turbo'd 4AGZE's, not standard GE's.. so i guess im after the same info about turboing my engine as i asked about supercharging it...
If that made sense to anyone or if you have any feedback for me that'd be tops! thanks heaps...
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July 2003
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Re: 4AGE------> 4AGZE???
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Sun, 08 May 2005 12:41
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2.5 inch to 3 inch lol.
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I supported Toymods
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melbourne
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June 2002
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Re: 4AGE------> 4AGZE???
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Sun, 08 May 2005 12:52
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yeah, thats way too small, pissweak!
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Newcastle
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May 2004
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Re: 4AGE------> 4AGZE???
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Sun, 08 May 2005 13:00
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your planned exhaust is to big, 2.5 inch all the way, no.
RE: GZE POWAH!! - N/A engines are not designed to run boost, i recommend not doing it, id get some lumpy cams instead. Also use the search function, you will learn more than u can possibly imagine about this subject. If u did decide to make the 4age into a F/I engine, u would need lots of things changed... search and you will find answers.
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February 2003
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Re: 4AGE------> 4AGZE???
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Sun, 08 May 2005 13:01
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turbo
thats the only way 
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Sydney
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April 2004
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Re: 4AGE------> 4AGZE???
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Sun, 08 May 2005 13:08
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firstly search this forum, lots of good info to be found
with the engine, if you want F/I, go 4agze and turbo it, or leave it sc, best option in the long run..
but the 4age also has potential if you decide against going turbo or sc.
good luck
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Newcastle
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May 2004
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Re: 4AGE------> 4AGZE???
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Sun, 08 May 2005 13:10
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got a power figure since the recent tarbo conversion des?
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February 2003
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Re: 4AGE------> 4AGZE???
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Sun, 08 May 2005 13:11
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not yet man, haven't driven it much, havin some small probs here and there, but dyno and drift soon
free bump
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Sydney
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January 2003
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Re: 4AGE------> 4AGZE???
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Sun, 08 May 2005 14:16
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I wouldn't go any larger than a 2" on a 4AGE, maybe 2.25" if you are lookin at a GZE.
to answer your question about supercharging a GE, it can be done but when you add up all the costs of doing it, and the headaches, it comes out much cheaper to just buy a GZE and put that in. then selling the GE....
GZE's are also a much better base platform if you plan to turbocharge it down the track.
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Canberra
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April 2003
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Re: 4AGE------> 4AGZE???
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Sun, 08 May 2005 22:39
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this is what I am doing with mine currently, putting all the SC gear onto the GE motor.
Its a bit of a fuck around, but I got everything I needed really cheap, thats why I did it. you need, SC, intake manifold, differant rear water pipe, mounting brackets for the SC, new bracket for the front to hold the A/C and Alternator and PS, a wiring loom would be nice, you would have to get a bigport SC gear off an either AW11 or early AE92. so you would also need the AFM, ecu if you want to go standard, and all the timing gear, cause if you get AE92 stuff it has a crank angle sensor, coilpacks, and separate igniter. if you got the AW11 one you would still need a new dizzy as I am finding out.
its not that difficult to do, I am having problems currently though with getting her started, the CAS isn't registering properly.
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Canberra
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April 2003
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Location:
Lara, Vic
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February 2005
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Re: 4AGE------> 4AGZE???
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Mon, 09 May 2005 08:31
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Got a 2 inch on my 4AGE, That is plenty big enough, The 4 cyl engine doesnt put out that much air! anything bigger and you will start to lose to much bottom end. I got Straight thru with a resonator. The dick how did the exhaust put the resonator right up the front behind the cat, so it does nothing for the noise.
Sounds great but drones like hell at 100kmh.
Get a Hi-flow cat, that will make a much bigger difference than 3 inch for the 2 ft of pipe from the engine to the cat.
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Sydney.. North Shore
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May 2005
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Re: 4AGE------> 4AGZE???
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Tue, 10 May 2005 03:35
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ok cool.. cheers for the advice, as i said i dont really know much about the technical side of exhausts and engines etc but i am learning!! so yeah ill talk to the guys at the exhaust place and see what they rekon about 2inch all the way and if they recommend a high flow cat or anything else.. and about the engine i think ill hang onto the GE for now and if i keep the car for long enough ill probably transplant GZE and work from there! but again thanks for all your help with that and ill no doubt have more questions for you guys very soon!
P.S what do you mean by f/i engine?? 
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Location:
Canberra
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April 2003
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Re: 4AGE------> 4AGZE???
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Tue, 10 May 2005 04:40
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| 4agerolla wrote on Tue, 10 May 2005 13:35 |
P.S what do you mean by f/i engine??
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Forced Induction Engine
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I supported Toymods
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Brisbane
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September 2004
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Re: 4AGE------> 4AGZE???
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Tue, 10 May 2005 04:57
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You'll probably want to look at your suspension too, if you're going to put more power out of the engine. At the very least change the shocks and springs, 20 year old items arn't exactly desirable for best handling 
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Sydney.. North Shore
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May 2005
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Re: 4AGE------> 4AGZE???
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Tue, 10 May 2005 08:54
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ahh i see.. f/i makes sense now! thanks for that...
Yeah the suspension has been changed, the previous owner had it lowered 2inches and replaced the springs.. but im not sure about the shocks, ill have to check it out..
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