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JNR 13B
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86 disc brakes? Sun, 08 May 2005 10:59 Go to next message
the question is
can I put a JAP vented disc in a AUS AE86 with out changing piston?

have anyone ever try this out?

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Re: 86 disc brakes? Sun, 08 May 2005 11:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
doy ou have the jap discs in your possesion?
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Re: 86 disc brakes? Sun, 08 May 2005 12:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Have anyone ever try button of search?


The real truth of the matter is: why bother?
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Re: 86 disc brakes? Sun, 08 May 2005 13:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
NO i don't have a jap disc. but I guess it couldn't be that hard to find. plus it could be an eazy 1st step up grade that might not cost so much.

it was only a through. i didn't know if it would work.
i just did wanna buy one thn have to buy the piston and everything else that come with it.

but i'll try to do the search now.
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Re: 86 disc brakes? Sun, 08 May 2005 14:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
you cant use jap discs in aus spec calipers

jap discs are too wide.
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Re: 86 disc brakes? Sun, 08 May 2005 16:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
if you want more stopping power just upgrade to better quality pads, the shopping trolley type pads arent meant for anything but.

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Re: 86 disc brakes? Sun, 08 May 2005 17:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i just bought TRD pads front and back
and JDM *slotted* and vented OEM duplicates front and back

for $1000 bucks

you could do the same an get some JDM calipers and thats good stoppin for $1250!

[Updated on: Sun, 08 May 2005 17:33]

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Re: 86 disc brakes? Mon, 09 May 2005 06:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
fuck thats alot of money. im sure you could have got equally good pads in another brand, and similar discs in aus? just seems like alot of money for still teeny little brakes.
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Re: 86 disc brakes? Mon, 09 May 2005 15:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
well $400 for a full set of race pads (front and back) is pretty good!
and 150 a disc isnt bad either, and they **are** aussie discs, just copies of the JDM ae86 discs. made in adelaide!

i dunno seemed reasonable to me for a complete front and back overhaul

and i cant fit bigger ones under my 14" wheels anyhow

if i wanted 260mm brakes with FC calipers to fit UNDER my 14" wheels.... id need to shave the FC caliper's 'fins' off and use mugen/honda EG Civic VTEC brake discs with adaptors machined up

and thats about $1500 in new parts without any pads and ONLY for the front brake replacements. then theres the rear brakes for another $500 or so.

i could have gotton the 300mm willwood brake kit from T3 for $1800 but they would need 15" or 16" wheels to fit AND they are ALSO only for front not the back!

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Re: 86 disc brakes? Tue, 10 May 2005 06:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
front does all the work anyway Smile who are the people you got the discs from? are they custom made? still seems exy just for the discs, i got my brembos for $31 each for the front, but then again they are a replacement for a probably more available car.
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Re: 86 disc brakes? Tue, 10 May 2005 06:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
just priced a set of ebc greenstuff pads for ra60 calipers

$200 and have to be shipped from england...

as for standard aus spec ae86 brakes i wouldnt bother they suck!
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Re: 86 disc brakes? Tue, 10 May 2005 06:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
front may well do a lot of the work but i want to keep a good bias front to back so ill be upgrading them all to suit

im not sure who the brand is AJPS is getting them for me. i think they are custom tho coz of the JDM thing...

what discs/caliper/pad combo are u running?
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Re: 86 disc brakes? Tue, 10 May 2005 07:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
just the hilux/pug combo. i know you wouldnt do it for your car cause yours is more about handling and drivabilty but for me i just wanted big stoppers on a budget, cause my car is undrivable with poor handling and waaaaay too much lag so a bit of extra unsprung mass didnt bother me. im just using $15 pads from auto one, still stop mad tho Smile
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Re: 86 disc brakes? Tue, 10 May 2005 07:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
what mm size are the pug discs?
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Re: 86 disc brakes? Tue, 10 May 2005 07:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
they are 273mm machined down to 266mm as per my tech article.

http://toymods.org.au/Repository/TechDocs/ae86brak es.pdf
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Re: 86 disc brakes? Tue, 10 May 2005 07:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
RDA do vented discs for jdm calipers. Pretty cheap too.

On this topic, what pads do people reccomend?
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Re: 86 disc brakes? Tue, 10 May 2005 08:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
wait. thats them! RDA!
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Re: 86 disc brakes? Tue, 10 May 2005 09:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I have the pug caliper conversion on my 4a, and i must say its not bad at all. Do want lighter calipers though.
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Re: 86 disc brakes? Tue, 10 May 2005 09:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i was under the impression that RDA dont do slotted for jdm ae86.

that's what the state distributer(ajps/truenotool's supplier) told me, anyway.
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Re: 86 disc brakes? Tue, 10 May 2005 09:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
yeah good outweighs the bad tho imo. did you shorten the strut or use as is? how did you find your handling afterwards?

edit: question aimed at takai

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Re: 86 disc brakes? Tue, 10 May 2005 11:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Well i cant honestly say. I went from stock suspension, to HTS102s with height adjust coilovers, completely braced and adjustable.
The struts are shortened quite significantly as well as the front track increased 25mm.

The end result is that the steering is ridiculously direct and it feels like the car is on rails. Brake bias is screwed severely, causing the rears to lock up almost as soon as you press the brake pedal. Overall its quite good, stops like a demon too.
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Re: 86 disc brakes? Tue, 10 May 2005 11:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Steve-AE86 wrote on Tue, 10 May 2005 19:45

i was under the impression that RDA dont do slotted for jdm ae86.

that's what the state distributer(ajps/truenotool's supplier) told me, anyway.


RDA will slot anything, you just have to wait 8-10 days and pay a little bit of freight (I should know, I just got some done by them) Smile
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Re: 86 disc brakes? Tue, 10 May 2005 15:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ae86drift wrote on Mon, 09 May 2005 03:33

i just bought TRD pads front and back
and JDM *slotted* and vented OEM duplicates front and back

for $1000 bucks

you could do the same an get some JDM calipers and thats good stoppin for $1250!



I didn't spend anything like that on my KE70, and I got R33 turbo brakes onto it - bet they pull up a little better than any JDM corolla crap:P
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Re: 86 disc brakes? Wed, 11 May 2005 05:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
thank you for all the reply

But after all.
what brake up grade can I use to be able to have some kinf of enternal adjustable suspension work?

Does any one have any idea of what prices range should i be looking for in coil over?
or even just externally adjustable suspension is ok.
I don't mind the high I have got my car on at the moment.

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Re: 86 disc brakes? Wed, 11 May 2005 09:19 Go to previous message
JNR 13B wrote on Wed, 11 May 2005 15:30

what brake up grade can I use to be able to have some kinf of enternal adjustable suspension work?


WTF????? Prease spreaking ze englash or no peeples understeund you.

The suspension work will have nothing to do with the brakes unless you run into something like having the wrong offset disk and hence touching the struts.

There are a million ways to do both the brakes and the suspension work. Find out which one you want to do for each and see if they're compatible.
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