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High Compression Pistons Tue, 24 May 2005 00:10 Go to next message
Hey all! I found on the TRD newzealand site some Toms High Compression Pistons for 1100 bucks. with rings and piston.

I was going to put them in my blacktop 20v, but I am not sure what benifit these will give me? would the high compression ones be better than the lightweight blacktop ones I have now???

sorry Im a engine internals NOOB Very Happy
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Re: High Compression Pistons Tue, 24 May 2005 00:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
What compression ratio are the pistons compared to the ones you have now?
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Re: High Compression Pistons Tue, 24 May 2005 03:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I am unsure
what is better? more or less compression?

http://www.trdsales.com/shop/product.asp?catcode=1 91

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Re: High Compression Pistons Tue, 24 May 2005 03:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I have put a request in for the compression details. As soon they are received I will post them up Very Happy
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Re: High Compression Pistons Tue, 24 May 2005 03:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
More compression is good if you want NA but you'll need the appropriate tuning to get the best out of it.

Anything over 11.5:1 on the street will be annoying.

Around 11:1 would be good.
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Re: High Compression Pistons Tue, 24 May 2005 03:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
12 ~ 1.
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Re: High Compression Pistons Tue, 24 May 2005 03:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Is this a daily driver?
Factory ECU?
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Re: High Compression Pistons Tue, 24 May 2005 04:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mmmm thats high to high for street will go hard but you need race fuel and alot more mods for those I.E bigger injectors Porting of heads oring block or metal head gasket, Head Stud kit After market computer or a piggy back computer, Better spark = Big Dollars try 11:1 much better for street. Wink
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Re: High Compression Pistons Tue, 24 May 2005 05:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
arn't blacktops 11:1 stock anyway?
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Re: High Compression Pistons Tue, 24 May 2005 05:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Yes
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Re: High Compression Pistons Tue, 24 May 2005 05:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Really so PUP only hey.
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Re: High Compression Pistons Tue, 24 May 2005 06:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
anyone know the compression of the small port (100kw) 4AGE?

i guess it's less than the 20v yeah? if i got 20v pistons in mine would there be an improvement?



ive been thinking about this , then i saw this post which is good...and im unsure is the compression of an engine the pistons and the head gasket or ??? Razz

so thinnier head gasket(thinnier raises compression right?) , 20v pistons , largest possible cams on factory ecu , 2 1/4 exhaust , extractors , pod filter......would it go considerabley well? Wink i hope so , turbo'n it would just be to expensive and its best to keep an N/A an n/a.
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Re: High Compression Pistons Tue, 24 May 2005 06:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
You can't use 20V pistons on a 16V head Rolling Eyes

Search too. 99.9% of 4A questions have previously been asked.
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Re: High Compression Pistons Tue, 24 May 2005 07:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ohh , sorry
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Re: High Compression Pistons Tue, 24 May 2005 07:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
yes daily driving. how would it make a difference? is it because if you have to higher compression it does not like being in low revs so its ment for racing at high rpm?

[Updated on: Tue, 24 May 2005 07:21]

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Re: High Compression Pistons Tue, 24 May 2005 07:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
High compression (higher than 11.5:1) requires hi octane fuel.
ie, race fuel.
It also requires a cold intake temp and fine tuning.

Not really good on a daily driver type car.

The B/T 20valve is about as good as you will get.
Put some aftermarket management on it and it will be slightly better (Toyota tends to have fairly conservative tuning)
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Re: High Compression Pistons Tue, 24 May 2005 07:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ok then, I dont want to go overkill and turbo. I love turbo engines but I would prefure to be able to rev it heeps without doing major damage as would forced induction on the wrong setup. I have a a highflow cat, extractors and 2.14" exhaust and Cold Intake from the left headlight. I have thought about upgrading the standard $5.00 plugs to some platinum plugs. What upgrades should I consider worthwhile? I am new to this so any help is apreciated

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Re: High Compression Pistons Tue, 24 May 2005 07:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
You've pretty much done all the cheap work.

Next would be better cams (I'm not sure how good the stock ones are), port the head, and aftermarket ecu.

Problem with starting with a hypo NA Toyota motor is that there is very little room for improvement.
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Re: High Compression Pistons Tue, 24 May 2005 08:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
20VBTSECA wrote on Tue, 24 May 2005 10:10

Hey all! I found on the TRD newzealand site some Toms High Compression Pistons for 1100 bucks. with rings and piston.





Those prices are in US dollars too I think you will find. Embarassed
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Re: High Compression Pistons Tue, 24 May 2005 08:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ow shite USD! i didnt notice bloody hell!. Bigger cams hey? how would that effect the VVT? and what gains would I expect?

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Re: High Compression Pistons Tue, 24 May 2005 08:45 Go to previous message
Bigger cams wont do much on stock ecu.

Changing the ecu will be the first step if you want to get more power.
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