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river
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Calling on all your collective knowledge Mon, 23 May 2005 12:10 Go to next message
Hi,

Surely within the collective knowledge of this forum someone.. anybody.. has info in where to get a P51 gearbox repaired or where to get parts?

I need your help to keep a classic GT Celica in original condition and driveable.

I've scanned all the forums. I've scoured the internet. I've spoken to Toyota. I've spoken to god. I've used a bowl of blood and a chickens's foot. I even tried the pendulum and Tarot, but the answers aren't coming.

I've spoken to numerous gearbox places, including our sponsors, and the reply is "forget it" or "what's a P51".

I can whack in a W50 - but that ain't the same as having the original box fixed or replaced with the same type.

So please, help Uncle River out. Any ideas..... anyone?

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Re: Calling on all your collective knowledge Mon, 23 May 2005 16:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
may be a stupid question yet then again the only stupid question is one not asked
have you tried to source the parts to do a rebuild from os
where is the main market your model was released ?
probably the best place to get parts

edit: info found during a quick search, might find one being behind one of these being wrecked somewhere if lucky or in japan or the uk
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Pit/9975/vehicl es/Celica_A2.html
ratios in case you didnt know
http://www.club4ag.com/faq%20and%20tech_pages/RWDg earboxes.htm

[Updated on: Mon, 23 May 2005 16:24]

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Re: Calling on all your collective knowledge Mon, 23 May 2005 22:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Another reason why Im not gonna buy a 2000GT to restore...
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Re: Calling on all your collective knowledge Tue, 24 May 2005 00:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hi,

Thanks for the info 4DaDrift. The P51 was a JDM item. I've tried tog et parts from them via my local Toyota Dealer (who is very good and has been able to source some rare GT parts already) but no luck on P51 bits.

I've tried Toyota Australia a few times but they don't ring or email me back - I guess they're only interested in making money and selling cars, as opposed to keeping their heritage and historical cars in running order.

I'm going to try the Jap Consulate and see if I get any luck there. Also, I'll try Al Palmer.

I know the ratios, but thanks anyway.

RollaBoy, I wouldn't like to restore a GT2000 also. Parts are very very hard to get and very expensive, let alone the megabucks needed to buy a car in the first place. Mind you, it would be a great car to own and fun to take out on the odd cruise and motor show.

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Re: Calling on all your collective knowledge Tue, 24 May 2005 00:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I know this would probably be a last resort, but have you tried calling or e-mailing Toysport in the States? They aren't particularly cheap, and they're on the other side of the world, but they always seem to be able to get hold of the really weird stuff.
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Re: Calling on all your collective knowledge Tue, 24 May 2005 00:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hi,

Thanks. I just emailed them. I spoke to Al Palmer and he mentioned to go to the importers. SO. I did a search for them in Oz and am emailing them.

Also, I emailed the Singapore Celica guys for info.

Good stuff, keep the ideas coming and I'll email, ring and hassle them to see if I can get the box/parts.

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Re: Calling on all your collective knowledge Tue, 24 May 2005 00:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Not a problem. Always happy to help old man River... Razz
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Re: Calling on all your collective knowledge Tue, 24 May 2005 02:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
according to the list its worth trying uk/europe if possible as well
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Re: Calling on all your collective knowledge Tue, 24 May 2005 03:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
4DaDrift wrote on Tue, 24 May 2005 02:05

may be a stupid question yet then again the only stupid question is one not asked
where is the main market your model was released ?



Very good question

As far as I know, the 70's Celica GTs (not the US psuedo version)
were sold in:

Japan
UK
France (not 100% sure though)
Gernany(not 100% sure though)


any other countries?? Rolling Eyes

Apart from ratios and the Porsche syncros how is the P51 different to a W50? Is is stronger etc?
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Re: Calling on all your collective knowledge Tue, 24 May 2005 03:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i can't see river getting anything from france Razz
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Re: Calling on all your collective knowledge Tue, 24 May 2005 05:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hi,

Corona RT142 wrote on Tue, 24 May 2005 13:25

i can't see river getting anything from france Razz


Hmmm, good point. I may just have to swallow my pride and talk to those pansies if necessary. Oh the irony!

I'll try the UK. I know an RA25GT sold over there a few months ago for $7,000PND - apparently one of two in the country. Maybe they'll have a gearbox or two lying around..... just maybe Rolling Eyes

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Re: Calling on all your collective knowledge Tue, 24 May 2005 05:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I'm not the most knowledgeable on the subject, but I have a vague recollection of the P51 having Porsche syncro's in it?

If so would it be possible to source them through Porsche?

I can't imagine any dramas matching up bearings and what once the gearbox was removed and disassembled to be measured/get part numbers off.

Cheers
Wilbo

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Re: Calling on all your collective knowledge Tue, 24 May 2005 05:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hi,

Wilbo, you're right - it was a Porsche patented box or something along those lines. It's a long shot but worthy of my attention. I'll see what I can dig up from Porsche clubs/specialists. Good idea.

Thanks fellas - keep 'em coming.

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Re: Calling on all your collective knowledge Tue, 24 May 2005 07:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hi,

The Porsche Club of Australia is looking into it also for me. How nice of those guys to help. Smile

Never thought I'd see the day where you need to go to Porsche to get parts and ideas to fix your Celica!

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Re: Calling on all your collective knowledge Tue, 24 May 2005 14:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
is a sign of how advanced yota's are Wink
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Re: Calling on all your collective knowledge Tue, 24 May 2005 14:48 Go to previous message
What about finding someone locally who speaks Japanese and getting them to email/contact a Celica club in Japan. Wink

It it sad but true but it appears that 99% of all Toyota GT's of all types were sold in their home market, so thats where the vast majority of parts will be laying around. This is if any relevant parts are still around.

I despise all recent Toyotas because they are appliances, so I wish you all the luck in the world in getting what you need to fix up your beast - a real Toyota. Cool

Also what about that Moloney guy in Melbourne? I hear he is about to retire or already has. If it is not too late....
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