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Perth
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September 2003
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EOI: ST185 Celica GT4 [Perth]
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Thu, 26 May 2005 15:11
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Hi all,
Well, I'm considering selling my ST185 Celica GT4. What're these things worth nowadays days? All the usual specs, 145000ks. Plus the fun stuff:
- JIC coilover suspension on all corners (very firm)
- Wolf3D ECU, including MAP sensor conversion
- Hi-flowed CT26 turbo (just been rebuilt)
- Custom intake with pod filter
- 600x300x75mm FMIC
- Full 3" exhaust turbo-back, custom dump pipe, hi-flow muffler
- HKS digital boost controller
- HKS SSQV BOV
- 17" Circlar 5-spoke alloys
- Momo steering wheel
- Turbo timer
- Pioneer DEH7650 CD/mp3 player, 15" sub, amps - happy to separate stereo
Old picture from when in Japan attached. Looks about the same externally, plus big FMIC. More pics upon request, but just guaging value/interest at this stage.
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Canberra ACT
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November 2002
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Re: EOI: ST185 Celica GT4 [Perth]
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Fri, 27 May 2005 02:45
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Looks nice 
As for price, I would estimate around $12-$14K depending on the condition etc..
What sort of power are you getting from the current setup?
Also, roughly what did your turbo rebuild cost you? I'm looking at doing exactly the same.
Cheers.
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Re: EOI: ST185 Celica GT4 [Perth]
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Fri, 27 May 2005 15:09
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i am in perth and looking for one of these.
[PMed] for cash or swap if i don't sell my car in time.
i'll post pics here if you're interested.
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Location:
Busselton, WA
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May 2005
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Re: EOI: ST185 Celica GT4 [Perth]
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Sun, 29 May 2005 22:03
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Whats insurance like on these cars? If its better then what I'm paying for the soarer and the price is reasonable, I'd definantly consider it.
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Location:
Sydney
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November 2003
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Re: EOI: ST185 Celica GT4 [Perth]
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Mon, 30 May 2005 02:06
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insurance for GT4's are usually pretty high i rekcon a price closer to 15k is about right for this car. u usally see them going for 10-13 depending on mods but looks at this one...
- JIC coilover suspension on all corners (very firm)
- Wolf3D ECU, including MAP sensor conversion
- Hi-flowed CT26 turbo (just been rebuilt)
- 600x300x75mm FMIC
and has pretty good KMS too.
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Location:
Busselton, WA
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May 2005
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Re: EOI: ST185 Celica GT4 [Perth]
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Mon, 30 May 2005 04:11
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Well if the sinruance is hell of a lot better then $2,900 a year, then it would be worth it. But I'm not up for spending more then $14,000 on another car, I want some change after I sell the Soarer.
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Location:
Newcastle
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June 2004
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Re: EOI: ST185 Celica GT4 [Perth]
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Mon, 30 May 2005 04:52
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Im only paying 75 a month for insurance  but its under my mums name (but its also covered for any other driver just a higher excess for other drivers) and she has a way with insurance companies and getting deals.... I know the insurance is alot cheaper then wrx's and skylines but im not sure if they are cheaper then soarers.
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Location:
Busselton, WA
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May 2005
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Location:
Newcastle
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June 2004
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Re: EOI: ST185 Celica GT4 [Perth]
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Mon, 30 May 2005 05:17
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Yeah fair enough im not planning on crashing its just a fail safe... but shit does happen 
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Location:
Canberra ACT
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November 2002
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Re: EOI: ST185 Celica GT4 [Perth]
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Mon, 30 May 2005 06:58
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Insurance is expensive compared to the value of the car.
Expect to pay over $1,000 even over age 30 with a perfect driving record! I reckon that's a lot for a $14,000 car.
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Location:
Perth
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September 2003
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Re: EOI: ST185 Celica GT4 [Perth]
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Mon, 30 May 2005 10:42
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Matty: When I said 'just been rebuilt', I wasn't joking; tho it should probably read 'still at the workshop being rebuilt' It should be on the dyno soon, I'll post the results when I get them. Hoping for around 200kw ATW @ 1 bar. (I forgot to mention it does have aftermarket injectors and fuel pump which are important in a Gen2 3S-GTE)
oWaF: Probably not looking for a swap (I'm fairly set on what's going to replace it), but no hurry to sell so we'll see how things go, keep in touch.
Re insurance queries, I only insure it 3rd party. I have strange views about comprehensive insurance (insurance companies exist to make a profit so if you're in the better 50% of drivers on the road then on average you are financially better off not insuring.. but most people think that's crazy talk). I believe it would be around $1K/yr to insure one of these with a decent no-claim bonus on your side.
bigwurm: They really shouldn't let girls drive cars.
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Busselton, WA
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May 2005
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Re: EOI: ST185 Celica GT4 [Perth]
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Mon, 30 May 2005 21:59
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Got a price figure what you want for it? I'm after a celica of this era, GT4 would be the ideal choice.
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Canberra ACT
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November 2002
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Re: EOI: ST185 Celica GT4 [Perth]
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Tue, 31 May 2005 10:42
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| Focal wrote on Mon, 30 May 2005 20:42 |
Matty: When I said 'just been rebuilt', I wasn't joking; tho it should probably read 'still at the workshop being rebuilt' It should be on the dyno soon, I'll post the results when I get them. Hoping for around 200kw ATW @ 1 bar. (I forgot to mention it does have aftermarket injectors and fuel pump which are important in a Gen2 3S-GTE)
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This is probably not the right forum, but I would love to hear the results of your dyno tuning. Also the cost of the turbo rebuild.
Thanks
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Location:
Melbourne
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February 2005
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Re: EOI: ST185 Celica GT4 [Perth]
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Wed, 01 June 2005 14:44
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Am also interesed in price, althought his ones probably to nice for me. As I only have about 10k to spend.
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Location:
Perth
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June 2005
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Re: EOI: ST185 Celica GT4 [Perth]
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Thu, 02 June 2005 02:03
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| Focal wrote on Mon, 30 May 2005 18:42 |
Re insurance queries, I only insure it 3rd party. I have strange views about comprehensive insurance (insurance companies exist to make a profit so if you're in the better 50% of drivers on the road then on average you are financially better off not insuring.. but most people think that's crazy talk). I believe it would be around $1K/yr to insure one of these with a decent no-claim bonus on your side.
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With my recently bought GT4, full comp (inclusive with 3k stereo and only exhaust/muffler as after market) insurance was best quoted to me by Just Car @ $1600 a yr. SGIO topped the list with $2300 and Budget Car Insurance said they wouldn't do it at all. 
I'm almost 21 tho and only have had my licence for a yr so that wouldn't help...but yer, it's not cheapski.
I bought mine for $11500...down from $12500 cause the brakes need work...and mines practically factory. imho u should be able to get a nice amount...15k maybe with those mods.
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Location:
Perth
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September 2003
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Re: EOI: ST185 Celica GT4 [Perth]
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Thu, 02 June 2005 10:25
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Yeah I was hoping to get around $14K, or $13K without the stereo, sounds like that wouldn't be unreasonable. It's got a few shortcomings which stop it being worth top dollar (e.g paint has a couple of imperfections, dash is lifted in parts) but lots of interesting fruit to compensate 
Could be a bit tricky finding one inside the $10K bracket, don't think I've ever seen one for sale that low. (Especially now that the 15 year rule for importing has finished, these things are only going to get rarer.)
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Location:
Melbourne
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February 2005
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Re: EOI: ST185 Celica GT4 [Perth]
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Thu, 02 June 2005 14:29
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have seen several below 10k. I don't know what they were like though as they were sold before I had a chance to look. I am hoping to save up a bit more so I can start to consider the 12-15k mark.
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Location:
Perth
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September 2003
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Re: EOI: ST185 Celica GT4 [Perth]
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Sat, 11 June 2005 08:44
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Just publicly answering a few questions I got asked about it..
I purchased the car in March last year while it was still in Japan (so yes I am the first owner in Oz)
Body stuff: The front right quarterpanel has a bit of light rippling. Front left quarterpanel has a scrape about 1" square on the wheel arch which took the paint off (wasn't me) so has a bit of surface rust there, otherwise it's all rust free afaik. Paint is a little faded either side of the bonnet scoop. Just mentioning all this to be thorough - for a 15 year old car the exterior is all pretty good.
All of the engine mods except for the boost controller have been done in the last 12 months by Global Motorworks and Performanz Turbochargers in Welshpool. The factory computer which was still in when I got it have a boost cut at 10 psi, so we can be confident it never ran above this while in Japan.
It was on the dyno yesterday after the turbo rebuild/upgrade (to a Group A compressor), got 215hp at the wheels @ 1.1 bar.
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Location:
Melbourne
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February 2005
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